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[Xantalos]

What if I disagree with you by killing you?

[BFEL]

What if I disagree with you by killing you?

Not enough, a PROPER disagreement requires collateral damage of at least 12 branches from the family tree, and 3 city blocks.


Also:

I did this, and stumbled across M'aiq the Liar's corpse in the wilderness, savaged by a snow bear. Beware that such tragedies will be common if you do this.

No worries, I consider that to simply add replay value.
I'm the kind of person who thinks that actions, inactions, and the flaps of butterfly wings should all shape my gaming experience

[Flying Dice]

None of the possible consequences of turning off essential NPC protection can outweigh having the ability to slaughter all of those two-bit gangsters that have the nerve to call themselves a Thieves' Guild.

I'm not even joking, the strongest moral crisis I had in my initial vanilla playthrough came during the early "Thieves'" Guild missions, specifically the one where you extort money from shopkeepers. That was the point where I realized that even with the potential end-of-quest-line rewards, I wanted nothing to do with those bastards and tried to kill them all... only to discover that every damned one was a protected NPC. I deleted that save and started downloading mods the same day.

[Eotyrannus]

I have many much mods now. My favourite is the perk mod, SPERG, which has made resurrection useful enough for me to go around laughing maniacally with zombies.

[Mr. Strange]

Frankly, all TES games (except Morrowind, and I'll kill you if you disagree with me! ) begin as unplayable trash, and split into different games and genres as those holy men we call modders work their blessed magic.

Since I have not played Morrowind I can't comment on it (though I have heard rumors that modders have done wonders to the combat there), but otherwise I agree, Oblivion less trash than Skyrim. At least you could still call it Role Playing Game with straight face...

[Eotyrannus]

Heheh. After fleeing from the whole of Ivarstead, I was going up the 7,000 steps as a werewolf. I saw a guy praying at one of the stones, so I walked up behind him and stood next to him.

The gist of his response?

"Be careful. There could be wolves around."

I decided to give him a look before making a snowy sabre-cat do a cartwheel off of the mountain.


(I also found that trolls do not like being stunned. Stamina absorb + warhammer stun modded perk = smash frost troll into ground until it stops moving.)

[Mr. Strange]

"Be careful. There could be wolves around."

Heh, thats like that nirnroot farm guard saying "Only burglers and vampires creep around at night, so which one are you?"

[Flying Dice]

"Be careful. There could be wolves around."

Heh, thats like that nirnroot farm guard saying "Only burglers and vampires creep around at night, so which one are you?"

The proper response would normally be "both", but I cringe at the thought of being a vampire in Skyrim.

[Xantalos]

Why?

[Ultimuh]

"Be careful. There could be wolves around."

Heh, thats like that nirnroot farm guard saying "Only burglers and vampires creep around at night, so which one are you?"

The proper response would normally be "both", but I cringe at the thought of being a vampire in Skyrim.

What you need, is a vampire overhaul mod.
I recommend Better Vampires and Royal Bloodline.

[Flying Dice]

Why?

The mechanics of vampirism and of the game as a whole don't make for good RP, and vampirism isn't particularly effective as part of a build. Just about everything you get from it can be gotten from some other source without the downsides, and it's difficult to be a proper vampire when sneaking is so easy (even with mods) and there aren't any other humans to create genuine, interesting reactions. Hell, you can suck people dry all over a city and there's pretty much zero response as long as you aren't caught doing it.

[Ultimuh]

Why?

The mechanics of vampirism and of the game as a whole don't make for good RP, and vampirism isn't particularly effective as part of a build. Just about everything you get from it can be gotten from some other source without the downsides, and it's difficult to be a proper vampire when sneaking is so easy (even with mods) and there aren't any other humans to create genuine, interesting reactions. Hell, you can suck people dry all over a city and there's pretty much zero response as long as you aren't caught doing it.

* Ultimuh pokes Flying Dice and points to the links he posted above.

[Xantalos]

"Be careful. There could be wolves around."

Heh, thats like that nirnroot farm guard saying "Only burglers and vampires creep around at night, so which one are you?"

The proper response would normally be "both", but I cringe at the thought of being a vampire in Skyrim.

What you need, is a vampire overhaul mod.
I recommend Better Vampires and Royal Bloodline.

Ooh!
Are those compatible?

[Eotyrannus]

"Be careful. There could be wolves around."

Heh, thats like that nirnroot farm guard saying "Only burglers and vampires creep around at night, so which one are you?"

The proper response would normally be "both", but I cringe at the thought of being a vampire in Skyrim.

What you need, is a vampire overhaul mod.
I recommend Better Vampires and Royal Bloodline.

Ooh!
Are those compatible?

There's a compatibility patch in the Better Vampires manual download, I saw.

[Xantalos]

Oh my god those mods are amazing.