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[Salvatore Monday]

• Detective
      Race: Human/Doppelganger
      Goal: Find
      Rules: During the night, the Detective can investigate a character to determine what role, if any, the character possesses. Roles with the 'Visible Role' tag will show that role instead of thier actual Role..
      Victory: Town/Doppelgangers win
  

Oh!!  Okay.  I misread and thought detective catches the visible role if any.  But they also get the race/role, if not a visible role.

Happier about detective now, that makes sense.

So, what is role then?

Is it RACE?  Is it ROLE NAME?  Is it SOMETHING ELSE?

I believe it's the bold bit at the top - so, if a detective detects a detective, he finds out "detective".[/list]

[Imp]

Sal.  Could be, totally within the range of what Sal can do, and that what I know of Agent might want and choose to go with.

I wouldn't have let Agentt get lynched like that though.

I expressly chose to force ToonyMan onto the Agentt wagon yesterday, remember?

Even still, I'm happy to flip if I need to. I could even play the ToonyMan and say the magic words that guarantee I get killed. But for now, I'll keep these vultures guessing.

Didya?

For some reason I see Jim and feel totally okay with this.

I'm okay with Magma Mater and I'm okay with Agentt. Not really okay with ToonyMan.

Trying to debate with myself who between Agentt and Magma Mater would be more informative. If I get Magma Mater I think I learn about ToonyMan and maybe about CrystalizedMire as well. I'm not sure what I learn if it's Agentt.

ToonyMan

Force my hand, why don't you.

Agentt.

Right.  I'm supposed to be seeing how you forced Toons.  When you vote here, I had just posted a votecount.

ToonyMan

It will be very funny if we counterwagon our way back to it just being Agent vs Toony again

Agentt: 3: Crystalizedmire, notquitethere, Imp,
Crystalizedmire: 1: Salvatore Monday
Magma Mater: 2: Jim Groovester, ToonyMan
Salvatore Monday: 1: AnimePigeon,
ToonyMan: 2: Agentt, Magma Mater

Still, this is an interesting spread to have (for those left awake). I wonder what Sal (and Pigeon if still awake) is going to do now...

Matches my count.  Since I tracked vote post numbers:

Agentt:  Imp 310, NQT 296, Crystal 276, 
Magma:  Toons 254, Jim 232,
Toony:  Agentt 202, Magma 101
Sal:  AP 230,
Crystal:  Sal 292,

I'm open to Toons instead.  Resistant to Magma at this time, I do think I see likely town Magma here.

You give us tie between toons and agentt.

Jim Jims and goes to Agentt.  Toons goes to Agentt.  Magma challenges Toons specifically about Crystal's vote on Agentt.  Then you go to Agentt too, saying glad to go back to Magma.  At the time I kinda trusted Magma.  I am weirdly trusting and intensely evil this game, neat combo.  I also intensely trust myself, that's not weird.

NQT makes the neat comment,

Thought ultimately we got back to where we started the journey should be very educational after we've had some flips...

If the dopps are just Agent and Magma I honestly feel bad for them. Hopefully the game is a little more complex than that.

Sal, at that time, when you said:

Imp would do it. But that still only makes 3.

You meant vote Mater?  At that time, no.  Toons or Agentt were my choices then.  I have been leaning likely town on Mater for playstyle, a few odd elements that could be in town range.

I have sus of Mater more for the flips and play, and the odd perfect defense that could be engineered that 'no, that's not Mater giving ideas to Agentt (not even bad ones, on purpose, for that use to distant?  Impressive knowledge of programming languages, math and logic symbolism otherwise, I did look into it later.  I don't have that at my fingertips, but can research.  Definitely admire the mind that wanders around with that kinda info near the top, ready for use at a thought.  Totally not my kinda brain).'  Mater totally solo doesn't look so sus, looks fairly town-like.

What's the scumcase on him?

I do think him likely town but hey, make the case while we're all still alive.

Mostly I think the ToonyMan wagon is bad.

ToonyMan says Magma Mater has been unreasonable towards him and I agree.

Noted, that wagon is:

Toony:  Agentt 202, Magma 101, Sal 314,

But I'm totally cool with Jim being okay with Mater and Agentt, he said, then voting Agentt after Sal voted Toons and forced the tie.

And then Jim thinking Toons wagon was bad, which had Agentt and Mater, who Jim said he was okay with.

Jim's fascinating.  I trust him and think he's town.

[Salvatore Monday]

Sal, at that time, when you said:

Imp would do it. But that still only makes 3.

You meant vote Mater?  At that time, no.  Toons or Agentt were my choices then.  I have been leaning likely town on Mater for playstyle, a few odd elements that could be in town range.

No, I meant "vote out a veteran", as Magma was talking about at the time.

[Imp]

So, Jim's maybe signalling to Agentt and Magma, but kills Agentt anyway?

I don't quite get that.  I get something and don't know what it means.

I also don't totally get what could be in play.

Rogue dorp?

Would have a pod somewhere else.

Would we be warned?

But rogue dorp can be any alignment?

• Rogue Doppelganger
      Race: Doppelganger
      Goal: Kill
      Rules: A lone Doppelganger from a previous infiltration, either seeking to protect it's new hunting area or to rejoin others of its kind. Acts as a third party with either Town Ally or Dopp Ally win condition (set at the start of the game), but does not know who the dopp team are in either case. Once during the game the Rogue Doppelganger may Night Kill another player.
      Victory: Town/Doppelgangers win
  

But if Jim's this, he's not a sneak.  I mean.  A sneak in the liar sense?  But this gets in the way of being role sneak, right?

[Imp]

Sal, at that time, when you said:

Imp would do it. But that still only makes 3.

You meant vote Mater?  At that time, no.  Toons or Agentt were my choices then.  I have been leaning likely town on Mater for playstyle, a few odd elements that could be in town range.

No, I meant "vote out a veteran", as Magma was talking about at the time.

Ahh.  Complete alignment and factual too.  Nice, and thanks.

[notquitethere]

Kind of confused about the rationale behind the dopp kill but not going to complain that the dopps are helping me solve the game.

It's very obvious to me! On D1 the Agent wagon was down to 0. No one on him. I suggested a few hours before EOD we just eliminate Agent and Crystal was first one to take me up on that. She voted before I did.

Who didn't join the Agent wagon straight off and instead tied the vote with Toony...?

Salvatore Monday

[Magma Mater]

Thanks for coming by last night Jim, I was worried that things had become awkward between us ever since we broke up. You're welcome to come by whenever you like, I'll always have a pint waiting for you. I can confirm that I didn't leave the house and hadn't planned on leaving the house, although I won't say what I was planning on doing instead (it's private).

Interesting that Crystalizedmire was killed, Imp was wondering earlier whether she was a psychic, so that is a point against her. I'm down to play some chicken. Have at ye!

Imp

Regarding my actions yesterday, I will admit that a lot of mistakes were made. But after some consideration, I forgive ToonyMan for making those mistakes, and I am willing to put them all behind me.

[Imp]

Thanks for coming by last night Jim, I was worried that things had become awkward between us ever since we broke up. You're welcome to come by whenever you like, I'll always have a pint waiting for you. I can confirm that I didn't leave the house and hadn't planned on leaving the house, although I won't say what I was planning on doing instead (it's private).

Interesting that Crystalizedmire was killed, Imp was wondering earlier whether she was a psychic, so that is a point against her. I'm down to play some chicken. Have at ye!

Imp

Regarding my actions yesterday, I will admit that a lot of mistakes were made. But after some consideration, I forgive ToonyMan for making those mistakes, and I am willing to put them all behind me.

Misreading, sweetheart?

I'm not chasing psychics.  I may be claiming about myself - and out of game at that.

Do what you do.  I wonder how you'll spin this towards your wincon's benefit.

[Magma Mater]

I bet Imp killed Crystalizedmire because she saw me talking to her. I'm sorry dear it won't happen again (not just because there are no other women left, although that certainly helps!)

[Imp]

I bet Imp killed Crystalizedmire because she saw me talking to her. I'm sorry dear it won't happen again (not just because there are no other women left, although that certainly helps!)

I did not kill anyone last night.

I have very little tolerance or enjoyment of deception in thought or deed these days.

So, I presume you are enjoying the path you're on.  There's no other reason to take it.

[Jim Groovester]

Kind of confused about the rationale behind the dopp kill but not going to complain that the dopps are helping me solve the game.

It's very obvious to me! On D1 the Agent wagon was down to 0. No one on him. I suggested a few hours before EOD we just eliminate Agent and Crystal was first one to take me up on that. She voted before I did.

Who didn't join the Agent wagon straight off and instead tied the vote with Toony...?

Salvatore Monday

You say this but it does not really follow.

Salvatore Monday chooses to kill CrystalizedMire?

Truly?

He doesn't off

literally anybody else?

Thanks for coming by last night Jim, I was worried that things had become awkward between us ever since we broke up. You're welcome to come by whenever you like, I'll always have a pint waiting for you. I can confirm that I didn't leave the house and hadn't planned on leaving the house, although I won't say what I was planning on doing instead (it's private).

I SAW YOU MAGMA MATER

I SEE WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU THINK YOU'RE ALONE

I SAW YOU LICK YOUR ANUS CLEAN

Imp

What the hell game am I playing?

[Jim Groovester]

What the hell game am I playing?

Paranormal Mafia 28, yes, I know, thanks for answering.

[Magma Mater]

I bet Imp killed Crystalizedmire because she saw me talking to her. I'm sorry dear it won't happen again (not just because there are no other women left, although that certainly helps!)

I did not kill anyone last night.

I have very little tolerance or enjoyment of deception in thought or deed these days.

So, I presume you are enjoying the path you're on.  There's no other reason to take it.

I don't know whether I enjoy it. I've had a few drinks so I'm just saying whatever comes to mind.
I do think that you are the most likely person to have killed Crystalizedmire, and that's the extent of my analysis for now. There are very few people I'm taking off the table so I don't expect this vote to stick. Sadly, I'll probably be the chicken this round.

[Magma Mater]

Kind of confused about the rationale behind the dopp kill but not going to complain that the dopps are helping me solve the game.

It's very obvious to me! On D1 the Agent wagon was down to 0. No one on him. I suggested a few hours before EOD we just eliminate Agent and Crystal was first one to take me up on that. She voted before I did.

Who didn't join the Agent wagon straight off and instead tied the vote with Toony...?

Salvatore Monday

You say this but it does not really follow.

Salvatore Monday chooses to kill CrystalizedMire?

Truly?

He doesn't off

literally anybody else?

Thanks for coming by last night Jim, I was worried that things had become awkward between us ever since we broke up. You're welcome to come by whenever you like, I'll always have a pint waiting for you. I can confirm that I didn't leave the house and hadn't planned on leaving the house, although I won't say what I was planning on doing instead (it's private).

I SAW YOU MAGMA MATER

I SEE WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU THINK YOU'RE ALONE

I SAW YOU LICK YOUR ANUS CLEAN

Imp

What the hell game am I playing?

YEAH WELL AT LEAST I DON'T HAVE CANNOLI-INDUCED NARCOLEPSY

Alright, deep breaths Magma, come on you're better than this...

[Imp]

I bet Imp killed Crystalizedmire because she saw me talking to her. I'm sorry dear it won't happen again (not just because there are no other women left, although that certainly helps!)

I did not kill anyone last night.

I have very little tolerance or enjoyment of deception in thought or deed these days.

So, I presume you are enjoying the path you're on.  There's no other reason to take it.

I don't know whether I enjoy it. I've had a few drinks so I'm just saying whatever comes to mind.
I do think that you are the most likely person to have killed Crystalizedmire, and that's the extent of my analysis for now. There are very few people I'm taking off the table so I don't expect this vote to stick. Sadly, I'll probably be the chicken this round.

Cool.  I give you credit for being intoxicated, that could explain your logic.
When sober, please reframe.

I don't really care why you think I'd want Crystal dead.  You can explore that or not - I don't see it and I don't care, I want dop found and have a severe dislike of lies and 'that doesn't work/doesn't make sense/is insane' right now.

If I'm your only candidate for dop, you're useless to me, but if you're not dop or other anti-town you're triple useless to me as an elim - and as a maybe conf town maybe dops eat you, so I sure don't want you elim.  You useful is nice, but do have a good night to drink and stuff.

I am in pain out of game.  I am likely prickly and even offensive especially if triggered.  I probably don't dislike you as much as I feel at this second.  But I have that level of intolerance for illogic and doesn't make sense thinking.

Do have a good night.  I wish you well around my 'this sucks, this all sucks, I am fixing this all, and this all sucks' which is mostly irl-related.

Sidenote, I swear I'm living this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxiDoO84zjg

This is not meant to be lived and I am very annoyed.