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Author Topic: CYOM 5: Choose-Your-Own-Materia - Day One - Equivalent Exchange  (Read 1822 times)

TricMagic

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Re: CYOM 5: Choose-Your-Own-Materia - Day One Begins!
« Reply #150 on: May 04, 2025, 11:24:34 pm »

No real reads, but I’m enjoying Gail, Tric, and CM, and less enjoying Magma.
I think it’s going to be interesting mechanically N1.
Vermillion, I've literally done nothing so far. Unvote
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Re: CYOM 5: Choose-Your-Own-Materia - Day One Begins!
« Reply #151 on: May 04, 2025, 11:47:36 pm »

I think Verm and Crystal together are the... leverage point. How the other players interact with them will reveal plenty.

I'll need to take a look at them both.
What makes you think so?

Elephant parade feels town. But I have suscipisions on her push on Verm. She excused Zemaj dipping out when under susipicion due it being the weekend but couldn't excuse Verm being aimless.

While I don't want to reveal the rest of my materia, I do want to reveal that I have Counter-Psychic and I have Ferret
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« Reply #152 on: May 04, 2025, 11:56:43 pm »

While I don't want to reveal the rest of my materia, I do want to reveal that I have Counter-Psychic and I have Ferret
...why?
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« Reply #153 on: Today at 12:02:27 am »

While I don't want to reveal the rest of my materia, I do want to reveal that I have Counter-Psychic and I have Ferret
...why?
The defensive properties.
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Salvatore Monday

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« Reply #154 on: Today at 12:11:20 am »

While I don't want to reveal the rest of my materia, I do want to reveal that I have Counter-Psychic and I have Ferret
...why?
The defensive properties.
Do you expect someone here to know what they are?
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« Reply #155 on: Today at 12:13:11 am »

@Crystalizedmire Trade me the Ferret, I swear to you that it'll be worth it.
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« Reply #156 on: Today at 12:14:48 am »

I think Verm and Crystal together are the... leverage point. How the other players interact with them will reveal plenty.

I'll need to take a look at them both.
What makes you think so?

Elephant parade feels town. But I have suscipisions on her push on Verm. She excused Zemaj dipping out when under susipicion due it being the weekend but couldn't excuse Verm being aimless.

While I don't want to reveal the rest of my materia, I do want to reveal that I have Counter-Psychic and I have Ferret
I don't understand what the contradiction is supposed to be here, and I'm not sure where I 'excused' zemaj. My issue with zemaj is that they just haven't been here (starting at a time when scum!zemaj would find it mildly convenient to disappear), which I find less problematic than VS being here without being helpful. They're two different kinds of issues.
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« Reply #157 on: Today at 01:42:01 am »

@Crystalizedmire Trade me the Ferret, I swear to you that it'll be worth it.
I'll consider it but I really like animals and anything of that sort so I'll consider it for the time being.
I think Verm and Crystal together are the... leverage point. How the other players interact with them will reveal plenty.

I'll need to take a look at them both.
What makes you think so?

Elephant parade feels town. But I have suscipisions on her push on Verm. She excused Zemaj dipping out when under susipicion due it being the weekend but couldn't excuse Verm being aimless.

While I don't want to reveal the rest of my materia, I do want to reveal that I have Counter-Psychic and I have Ferret
I don't understand what the contradiction is supposed to be here, and I'm not sure where I 'excused' zemaj. My issue with zemaj is that they just haven't been here (starting at a time when scum!zemaj would find it mildly convenient to disappear), which I find less problematic than VS being here without being helpful. They're two different kinds of issues.
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I was more talking about how while you were weary of zemaj, you accepted the fact it is a weekend as an explanation and you didn't vote for zemaj. However, you voted for Vermillionskies for not pushing people and being rather inactive.
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« Reply #158 on: Today at 01:45:47 am »

Again, it isn't VS's activity level that's the issue, it's content relative to activity. If he had made two posts and they were good, I wouldn't have voted him. If he had made one post and it was good, I wouldn't have voted him. If he had made ten posts and they were still bad, I would still have voted him.
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« Reply #159 on: Today at 01:49:12 am »

I think Verm and Crystal together are the... leverage point. How the other players interact with them will reveal plenty.

I'll need to take a look at them both.

The whole ear infection thing sucks, though. Probably not worth pressuring Verm at this point, consequently.

I don't necessarily trust Verm's specific interpretation of Magma, but agree Magma is worth paying attention to. "I made a meaningless attack on purpose" is a lot weirder than "Maybe my attack was bad" or "My attack is good!" though.

Crystal is pretty heavy on the gut feelings. Not much substance so far, but there's room to improve.
What? I don't understand any of this besides feeling bad for Verm's ear infection.

@Imp:
I am probably okay if Zemaj were to drop dead right now.

I feel it is pretty unlikely you and Gail are scum.

While I don't want to reveal the rest of my materia, I do want to reveal that I have Counter-Psychic and I have Ferret
What?

@Crystalizedmire Trade me the Ferret, I swear to you that it'll be worth it.
Do it Crystal, do it!!
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« Reply #160 on: Today at 01:54:49 am »

How do I accept a trade? Do I just bold trade 1 materia with 1 materia Magma Mater has. Let's do some bargaining my feline friend.
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« Reply #161 on: Today at 02:00:39 am »

Again, it isn't VS's activity level that's the issue, it's content relative to activity. If he had made two posts and they were good, I wouldn't have voted him. If he had made one post and it was good, I wouldn't have voted him. If he had made ten posts and they were still bad, I would still have voted him.

Hey, EP, I am totally cool with you hunting Verm.  I do hope you consider hunting others too, and wanna remind you of our last game together where we three were all town:

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I am pro you hunting anywhere you please.  But some of the stuff you're calling Verm on, I think you've seen him do as town.

I approve the pressure to encourage play, and improvement, and show how you read stuff.

My marking Verm as town, when I do, is not because I think his play is by the book the towniest thing to do - I think I can often tell when he's town for other reasons than what you or most would say 'ahh, townie'  Still, he does some of the stuff you call him on as town, reminders of the BYOBoardGame and there's others too.

So, love to see you hunt more widely.

How's Toons looking to you, and why?

How's his handling of Gail and other players look to you, and why?
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« Reply #162 on: Today at 02:06:29 am »

If I can trust Elephant and Magma then I desire the deaths of FoU, Zemaj, and probably Verm. In that case I am wrong about Verm being good. I still feel they are good.

Where does Sal fit in? Hm, it's a tricky subject. I am not sure of them so I can see them on both sides of the coin equally.
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« Reply #163 on: Today at 02:14:18 am »

How do I accept a trade? Do I just bold trade 1 materia with 1 materia Magma Mater has. Let's do some bargaining my feline friend.

I think bolding is kind, but even just clearly saying you intend to trade seems to irrevocably put you up to trade if a valid match is made.

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In the thread during the day, players can opt to Trade [number] materia with {Player} in exchange for [number] materia. Trades are processed at the end of the day, if pairs match. Players may specify to one another what they're trading, wheedle and bargain as much as they like, but all trade contents are blind: players must PM the mod the materia they actually intend to trade. If they fail to PM the mod, the materia will be chosen randomly from the loose materia held by the player, if possible. When trades are received, the materia received are listed alphabetically with no source given.

Trades cannot be unmade and are processed from the first (valid) trade each player makes to the last.

E.g. Bloggs says "Trade 2 materia to Jane Doe for 1 materia - I've got some trash I'll give for anything". Jane Doe replies, "trade 1 materia to Bloggs for 2 materia".  The pairs match and the trade goes through at the end of the day.

The mafia may privately and instantly trade whatever materia they have in their collection at the start of each night, and may do so before or after respeccing.
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« Reply #164 on: Today at 02:32:29 am »

Again, it isn't VS's activity level that's the issue, it's content relative to activity. If he had made two posts and they were good, I wouldn't have voted him. If he had made one post and it was good, I wouldn't have voted him. If he had made ten posts and they were still bad, I would still have voted him.

Hey, EP, I am totally cool with you hunting Verm.  I do hope you consider hunting others too, and wanna remind you of our last game together where we three were all town:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I am pro you hunting anywhere you please.  But some of the stuff you're calling Verm on, I think you've seen him do as town.

I approve the pressure to encourage play, and improvement, and show how you read stuff.

My marking Verm as town, when I do, is not because I think his play is by the book the towniest thing to do - I think I can often tell when he's town for other reasons than what you or most would say 'ahh, townie'  Still, he does some of the stuff you call him on as town, reminders of the BYOBoardGame and there's others too.

So, love to see you hunt more widely.

How's Toons looking to you, and why?

How's his handling of Gail and other players look to you, and why?
That's fair, but he played the same way as scum in BYOM and BYOS2 and I still find his slop saga really fishy. I'll give your read some weight even if I don't understand how it works.

Toony is fine. I don't see anything very interesting in his interaction with Gail. His push on FoU feels proportionate and sincere where I would expect a scum!Toony to tunnel a town!FoU into a mislynch and hold back against a scum!FoU.

If I can trust Elephant and Magma then I desire the deaths of FoU, Zemaj, and probably Verm. In that case I am wrong about Verm being good. I still feel they are good.

Where does Sal fit in? Hm, it's a tricky subject. I am not sure of them so I can see them on both sides of the coin equally.
Has your read of VS changed at all today?
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