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Author Topic: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page  (Read 1566604 times)

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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2865 on: January 08, 2011, 12:54:58 pm »

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« Reply #2866 on: January 08, 2011, 01:31:56 pm »

Wouldn't one of twenty Kobolds of a tribe stay and stand guard in the nest chamber of their home cave? Considering that they are prone to stealing, they'd be aware that other Kobolds are out there, capable of stealing their stuff and eggs.

Stealing someone else's offspring to raise as your own seems like a pretty questionable strategy from an evolution standpoint. It's like the inverse of what a cuckoo does.

Actually for pack animals it might make sense to prevent inbreeding.
Yea, and for there being advantages to simply living in a bigger tribe, and siblings helping each other and so on. It works best if kobold eggs are big and require lots of energy to produce, but kobolds don't require much intensive parenting.

Quote from: Dante link=topic=60554.msg1865671#msg1865671   date=1294464525
Stealing   someone else's offspring to raise as your own seems like a pretty   questionable strategy from an evolution standpoint.
Not   if you castrate em!
This'd probably be a good strategy to. Also very likely "slaves" would be killed and possibly eaten if food runs low enough that being in a large tribe stops being an advantage.

EDIT: someone should make a suggestion about all this.
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« Reply #2867 on: January 08, 2011, 01:36:38 pm »

Hey Did Toady change the background to the Animal Drive or is it just my computer?

Mind you on the Laptop I was using the background was 100% the Zebra stripes without the overlay for the writing.

Was Toady responsible or was it my Laptop?
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2868 on: January 08, 2011, 04:25:52 pm »

Can we see how many people and the total donation per animal?

Just out of curiosity. (Under the assumption that such is easily available rather than distracting)
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2869 on: January 08, 2011, 07:59:45 pm »

Wouldn't one of twenty Kobolds of a tribe stay and stand guard in the nest chamber of their home cave? Considering that they are prone to stealing, they'd be aware that other Kobolds are out there, capable of stealing their stuff and eggs.

Stealing someone else's offspring to raise as your own seems like a pretty questionable strategy from an evolution standpoint. It's like the inverse of what a cuckoo does.

Ah, but while not obviously advantageous, the additional members of the clans are available to do tasks that increase the survivability of the whole thing.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2870 on: January 08, 2011, 09:17:37 pm »

Stealing someone else's offspring to raise as your own seems like a pretty questionable strategy from an evolution standpoint. It's like the inverse of what a cuckoo does.

even if it wouldn't perpetuate the species or endorse the genetic purity of the race, it would still be a self perpetuating cultural habit... a good example would be the goblinless goblin civilizations we used to have before the population rewrite, the race disappeared, but the civ would survive.

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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2871 on: January 09, 2011, 02:28:33 am »

Hey Did Toady change the background to the Animal Drive or is it just my computer?


I guess your laptop may have chokedon the css (if there is one) file of that page.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2872 on: January 09, 2011, 04:27:05 am »

Hey Did Toady change the background to the Animal Drive or is it just my computer?


I guess your laptop may have chokedon the css (if there is one) file of that page.

Either that or my laptop is trying to give me an Epileptic Seizure
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« Reply #2873 on: January 09, 2011, 07:51:44 am »

Hey Did Toady change the background to the Animal Drive or is it just my computer?

Mind you on the Laptop I was using the background was 100% the Zebra stripes without the overlay for the writing.

Was Toady responsible or was it my Laptop?

Out of curiosity, what browser are you using?
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2874 on: January 09, 2011, 12:14:09 pm »

Quote from: Dante link=topic=60554.msg1865671#msg1865671   date=1294464525
Stealing   someone else's offspring to raise as your own seems like a pretty   questionable strategy from an evolution standpoint.
Not   if you castrate em!
This'd probably be a good strategy to. Also very likely "slaves" would be killed and possibly eaten if food runs low enough that being in a large tribe stops being an advantage.

EDIT: someone should make a suggestion about all this.
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You guys are promoting an unsophisticated view of evolutionary fitness.  There's nothing inherently wrong with bringing people into your tribe or society (Criminy, you'd think the United States being a nation of immigrants and simultaneously being the most powerful nation on Earth would kind of demonstrate that) and there are any number of different ways in which the immigrants are integrated into the tribe.  Full membership, but subject to restrictions of age and clan is the most likely, given the technological level of the kobolds, but slavery is an option (though the kind of slavery practiced by early and small societies is not chattel slavery a la the American South or the later Roman Empire).
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2875 on: January 09, 2011, 01:02:27 pm »

Criminy, you'd think the United States being a nation of immigrants and simultaneously being the most powerful nation on Earth would kind of demonstrate that

I doubt it's the only factor to take into account. I would bet more on the geographical situation : only two borders, with no ennemy  around. No war was waged on american ground since the Civil War, I think ? It leaves the civilians free to do whatever they want. Waging a war doesn't really change anything for civilians in such a place.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2876 on: January 09, 2011, 01:05:01 pm »

Criminy, you'd think the United States being a nation of immigrants and simultaneously being the most powerful nation on Earth would kind of demonstrate that

I doubt it's the only factor to take into account. I would bet more on the geographical situation : only two borders, with no ennemy  around. No war was waged on american ground since the Civil War, I think ? It leaves the civilians free to do whatever they want. Waging a war doesn't really change anything for civilians in such a place.
WWII? Remember pearl harbor?
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2877 on: January 09, 2011, 01:25:52 pm »

Pearl harbor started a foreign war. The only American soil that saw combat was a few Alaskan Islands, Hawaii, Midway, Wake, the Marinaras, and the Phillipenes, none of which were on the US mainland or were states.
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« Reply #2878 on: January 09, 2011, 01:30:33 pm »

Pearl harbor started a foreign war. The only American soil that saw combat was a few Alaskan Islands, Hawaii, Midway, Wake, the Marinaras, and the Phillipenes, none of which were on the US mainland or were states.
Derp. Just pointing that out.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2879 on: January 09, 2011, 01:43:06 pm »

WWII was fought 193?-1945. Alaska and Hawaii became states in the early 1950s.
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