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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12765 on: May 18, 2015, 03:22:20 pm »

Of course, the easiest way to solve this would be to scrap the subs completely and not have nukes, but wait! We NEED  nukes for the non-existent country that will invade the USA if we don't!
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12766 on: May 18, 2015, 05:55:41 pm »

I'e left my ramblings on this in yurpol thred to avert the derails

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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12768 on: May 18, 2015, 07:53:09 pm »

There were reports many years ago of oranges that produce THC as well.

this is only scary to people who have panic attacks over psychotropic compounds, and who get their panties all tied up and wet over the idea that these compounds will cease being rational to regulate.  In short, moral panic type people.

More rationally, the dangers of this new yeast will simply be that people can become very intoxicated by an infection of this yeast. It will just prompt more effective antifungal treatments for yeast infections, and will lower the costs of manufacture of high quality morphine, which is a useful precursor to a large number of very useful pharmeutical compounds.

The dangers of misuse of this new organism are mitigated naturally by the consequences of that misuse-- people who misuse it will end up comatose, and possibly die.

Sane and rational people would not misuse this organism. I fail to see the reason to feel terrified by it.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12769 on: May 18, 2015, 08:13:07 pm »

Sane and rational people would not misuse this organism. I fail to see the reason to feel terrified by it.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12770 on: May 18, 2015, 08:18:05 pm »

I consider myself a sane and rational person. I do not have any plans to misuse this organism. I can think of no legitimate reason TO misuse this organism. Misusing the organism would have similar effects to misusing opium poppies-- Those that doe so, incur their own punishment through misuse.

For those that are honestly exposed to the organism and end up poisoned, I have some measure of concern, but for those that would seek to grow it explicitly to produce morphine, to produce high power morphine derivatives, like Heroin, the difficulties in keeping the organism contained and the resulting outbreaks of toxicity that it would cause would greatly curb its misuse, naturally.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12771 on: May 18, 2015, 09:03:22 pm »

It might be a good thing, all things considered- if any fool with some sugar water can make homebrew morphine, that's morphine that cartels aren't trafficking. But I expect it'll increase the number of morphine addicts.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12772 on: May 19, 2015, 01:47:38 am »

Now imagine getting a yeast of that kind infecting your stomach, like with auto-brewery syndrome. Constant opium high!
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12773 on: May 19, 2015, 08:15:33 am »

So the folks running the local hobby store/hobby club are planning to have some sort of convention this summer. Since we're kinda chummy with them (since they're really cool people) they have invited our little group of artists to have some sort of exhibition there.

In exactly two months I'll be displaying my works physically.

I AM NOT READY FOR THIS TO HAPPEN JUST YET OH GOD I HAVE SO MUCH THINGS TO IMPROVE OH GOD OH GOD
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12774 on: May 19, 2015, 08:54:36 am »

Now imagine getting a yeast of that kind infecting your stomach, like with auto-brewery syndrome. Constant opium high!
IIRC there was a guy like that who basically had a brewery in his gut. Spoiler alert: It sucked.
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« Reply #12775 on: May 19, 2015, 09:19:59 am »

Scientists create a breed of yeast that turns sugar to morphine.

How is this situation so much worse then say, poppy seeds?

There are plenty of legal plants around that produce drugs. I actually own a psychotropic cactus. Completely legal to own & grow. Illegal to process or consume. I have no idea how to produce mescaline from it & have no interest in finding out, it's just sitting in my backyard looking completely innocent.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12776 on: May 19, 2015, 12:41:26 pm »

Scientists create a breed of yeast that turns sugar to morphine.

How is this situation so much worse then say, poppy seeds?

There are plenty of legal plants around that produce drugs. I actually own a psychotropic cactus. Completely legal to own & grow. Illegal to process or consume. I have no idea how to produce mescaline from it & have no interest in finding out, it's just sitting in my backyard looking completely innocent.
The main reason it's different is because it's basically "Make a bio-reactor, stick sugar in it, collect and purify, profit!" rather than "Wait for poppies to grow, harvest your large fields, process poppy latex into morphine and then into heroin, purify, then sell." The processing is harder with poppies, you need large fields (which can be discovered) to get a profitable amount, and you need the workforce to harvest it, or possibly machinery.

I don't think that it'll change much in regards to drug use. Maybe make heroin prices go down, but I don't think it'll cause a whole lot of problems that way. Heroin isn't exactly one of those "Man, I would totally do that if it were cheaper!" things.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12777 on: May 19, 2015, 01:53:36 pm »

I don't think that it'll change much in regards to drug use. Maybe make heroin prices go down, but I don't think it'll cause a whole lot of problems that way. Heroin isn't exactly one of those "Man, I would totally do that if it were cheaper!" things.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12778 on: May 19, 2015, 02:03:16 pm »

 Meanwhile, the war on drugs has done odd things like severely limit production of hemp (for oil, rope, fabric, etc.) and poppies(oil) and, in some cases, increase the crime rate by a not insignificant percentage...
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12779 on: May 19, 2015, 02:13:54 pm »

There's low-THC hemp though which is even subsidised by the EU, and I can buy poppy seeds at the supermarket...
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