Well, he doesn't even move from the spot he arrived at, so magma would be a little difficult even if I wanted to.
I would have preferred to keep him, as it is something different. Perhaps I will build a bunch of cage traps around him for the inevitable berserkery and stick him in the royal quarters.
Seems that he's doomed to die anyways. I think friendly humanoids eventiually starve to death in their cages anyways.
It's not really an elf, it's just a dwarf who loved killing elves so much every inch of his beard and skin is covered with elf leather!
Dwarf Council:
Urist1: "why is the elf here?!"
Urist2: "we conquered them, they need representation"
Urist speaker: "the first subject is: carp infested rivers"
Elf: "I say we pour magma and elves into the river"
Dwarfs: ..... KING! KING! KING!
Now I have this mental image of a 6-foot elf with a fake beard sat on his too-small dwarven throne, drinking ale and muttering about those "Damn pointy-eared tree-loving bastards".
Awesome.
Heh, that's just brilliant. It's especially funny that you drew him in tighty-whiteys. Seems to add to the ridiculousness somehow in an incalculable way.
Chaining him down does work. I'm going to build him a big throne room then chain him right next to his throne.
The picture sealed it.
Hey, on the plus side: you have a Noble who won't give you mandates, he (probably) doesn't need food or drink, he doesn't complain, doesn't need huge rooms on threat of going crazy, and he can be 100% safe at all times thanks to the chain.
He may be an Elf, but he's the perfect King. I wonder if he can be adopted by a Dwarf...
...are there actually dwarves that "like elves for their grace"? I've never seen it.
Try selling him.
Ba-dum tch.
Try selling him.
Maybe the elves will pay you a king's ransom.
Can I get a rimshot on that? Anybody?
Recently I've had two goblin civs ruled by Dwarves. Pretty funny.
A fell mood just landed me an artifact throne with the image of the Elf King on it. And yes, the throne menaces with spikes.
Hmm, I wonder what kind of children his consort would produce in she had shown up. Delfs?
Your Elf King has appeared on an artifact along with the pictures of a menacing fireball and a horrific war.I'm under the impression he's really a bear. With pointed ears.
Dear god, what if he's really a Wizard in disguise? Or a Dragon?
Add this to descriptor_shape_standard.txt in the raws, and he will show up in other worlds. He might also appear in the likes of Dwarves, possibly.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Also, he is not the Hammerer, but he does have several levels of skill in Hammers due to his taking part in several invasions during world gen.
This just happened to me as well ... except it was an elven queen.
I don't have the heart to continue.
Mounted...
on Unicorns?
Mounted...
on Unicorns?
No.
I checked her inventory. When she wasn't wearing a thong I abandoned the fortress.
So apparently DF simulates the butterfly effect as well.Mounted...
on Unicorns?
No.
I checked her inventory. When she wasn't wearing a thong I abandoned the fortress.
Skinny elf butt?
Do not want.
I finally finished my throne room for the King, centered with the artifact throne with his picture on it, so I went back into Dwarf Companion and switched him to my Civ, then chained him up in the room.
Oddly, he now shows up on my Nobles screen, when before he didn't. The only difference I can figure is that now I have a Dungeon Master, where before I had no immigrant nobles. So maybe that turns something on or something like that.
Also, he apparently does need to eat and drink. Shortly after chaining him up, he started flashing with the blue arrow, so I unchained him, he ran to get a drink, then headed to the dining room and is now hanging out there.
However, I can't assign him any rooms or anything (he doesn't show up on the list of people) despite the nobles screen saying he needs them. So far, he has issued no mandates. Nor does he seem to actually have any thoughts, as he is still "quite content" with nothing affecting him nearly three months into my moving him inside.
Our elves are Discworld cannibal elves, not WoW high elves/ wood elves.
Yep. He can wear human-sized armor, so hoard it if you get a human siege, or if you kill some human merchants.
Yep. He can wear human-sized armor, so hoard it if you get a human siege, or if you kill some human merchants.
Or buy it. Ya know, if you're feeling radically unconventional.
Haha! I'm SO unused to doing that, I never even considered that option. I practically forgot you can buy large clothing and armor. :P
Come to think of it, why do the humans even buy small dwarven armor? It's like they just want to melt it down, or something.
Come to think of it, why do the humans even buy small dwarven armor? It's like they just want to melt it down, or something.
To trade to other Dwarves?
Come to think of it, why do the humans even buy small dwarven armor? It's like they just want to melt it down, or something.
To trade to other Dwarves?
... That answer was actually sensible.
Come to think of it, why do the humans even buy small dwarven armor? It's like they just want to melt it down, or something.
Translating the name...
Hide Apebald
Surround him with cage traps. Build support with floor tile nearby, collapse floor tile. Yay king in a cage.If you weren't at war with them at the time, I would suggest you take that cage and sell the tree-molesting bastard back to the Elves next trading season.
Drop in magma.
...(got the Dig Deeper mod)...
...(got the Dig Deeper mod)...
Only in Dig Deeper ;D.
I'm surprised the Elf King didn't enter the map riding a zombie wyvern.
whoa, nice. I like the way he's posed.
I like the way he's standing. he doesn't just ride wyverns bareback, no he surfs wyverns.
whoa, nice. I like the way he's posed.
I like the way he's standing. he doesn't just ride wyverns bareback, no he surfs wyverns.
I actually wanted to draw him playing the hammer like a guitar, basically just rocking the skies with the power of his metal. It came out different but it was so damn fun to draw.
@Holy Mittens:
It just occurred to me that in the course of this thread, I went from suggesting horrible deaths for your elf king to basicallyengraving his image on wallsdrawing him half the time. I agree with Neruz: Cacame is the Awesome Elf.
[Terrific Mental Image]
Next your going to tell me he used to punch carps in the face.
And win.
Be more dwarfy if he took the live(?) skarp to a craftsdwarf shop and turned it into animated undead bolts.
here he is, astride his zombie wyvern
[Mind shatteringly awesome pic.jpg]
This is the most awesome thread ever. Had I realized it was going to become so rocking badass, I would have kept a journal on the fort to add to the tales.
I'm still going to have write some fiction about him, though I don't know if I'm going to quite be able to reach the heights that have already been reached.
Thou shalt give us the link to these fan fics of the elven messiah! We would bind them in book form and consider the text holy! ;D
I always thought elves could kick butt if only they had incentive.
Yes! The king needs more engravers!
Also:
IMGsnip
It's from long before he got his fake beard, or became king. Assigned to woodcutting duty. :o
Yes, that's a hammer, not an axe. I'm not gonna tell him he's doing it wrong, because I like being alive just fine.
Morul. Ironblood. Cacame.2 dwarves, an elf, a kobald and a goblin? Where's the human?
Now we just need a kobold badass and a goblin badass.
Morul. Ironblood. Cacame.2 dwarves, an elf, a kobald and a goblin? Where's the human?
Now we just need a kobold badass and a goblin badass.
Morul. Ironblood. Cacame.
Now we just need a kobold badass and a goblin badass.
Morul. Ironblood. Cacame.
Now we just need a kobold badass and a goblin badass.
Umiman's Ender Goblins...
Only way that engraving could be improved is if he was cutting down a tree with an !!Elf!!.
Morul. Ironblood. Cacame.
Now we just need a kobold badass and a goblin badass.
Umiman's Ender Goblins...
You missed the point. Morul/Ironblood/Cacame were all just normal representatives of their respective races, then they started doing awesome stuff; the Ender Goblins are programmed to be hard to kill. So, we need an average kobold/goblin become epic somehow. (i havent read Kobold quest yet, we might already have an epic kobold.)
Why do i always forget humans?
problem.. adamantium doesn't come in bars, it comes in wafers.
also, 50 MICROCLINE?!
It should have him beating to death the elf who ate half of her with the other half. Gross I know but oh so funny
And now, to ruin the moment:
Stick an *Awesome Fork* in her, she's done.
;D
I think angst doesn't really fit this guy's character...
you're not driving him to depression, you're just makin' 'im mad.
Oh, he had angst alright.I think angst doesn't really fit this guy's character...
you're not driving him to depression, you're just makin' 'im mad.
I concur
If he was angsty he'd be tossed onto a pyre with the other elves. The dwarves picked Cacame as their king because he doesn't get sad, he gets even. By even, I mean destroys the offender's entire civilization from ontop a zombie dragon, natch.
I just thought of something... elves live way longer then dwarves.. Imagine what stories he'll have when he's finnally on his death bed... I mean wow.... and if he somehow gets a child won't that then become the new king?
this is slowly getting into soap opera territory.
"But wait, I have... AMNESIA!"
I think all currency should be named by the player. Then you could name different years of coinage after different awesome things.
Urist McEvaluator: Ah yes, a solid bronze cacame. Forged in 226 in the reign of Cacame McElfThatShouldn'tBeAwesomButIs. It was a good year, I recall...
On that note, we need to be able to make coins out of anything. I want to have iron coinage, and bronze and stuff like that. Copper, silver, gold only is fail. Make them out of any material, and you can set the actual monetary value through a screen like the z menu or whatever. Adding to eternal suggestions.
On that note, we need to be able to make coins out of anything. I want to have iron coinage, and bronze and stuff like that. Copper, silver, gold only is fail. Make them out of any material, and you can set the actual monetary value through a screen like the z menu or whatever. Adding to eternal suggestions.
Well, they have to actually be worth that.
On that note, we need to be able to make coins out of anything. I want to have iron coinage, and bronze and stuff like that. Copper, silver, gold only is fail. Make them out of any material, and you can set the actual monetary value through a screen like the z menu or whatever. Adding to eternal suggestions.
You can make coins out of anything already, no modding needed. They just won't be used for money(which is, imo, currently an advantage if you like coins but want to both use the economy and avoid epic coin scattering).
My last fort minted one stack of electrum coins a year and sealed them in a section of the vaults. An older fort had a noble who liked coins, so I minted them in dwarfy iron when the mandates came up and stashed them in the vault. You could also mint commemorative coins for significant events.
Setting their value, however, strikes me as absurd - not unless we can have asset-backed currencies. As-is they get their value from their composition(and quality/etc modifiers) - or should, anyway. What you're asking for would seem for like a fiat-based currency system, which I'd say is pretty inappropriate for the setting(well, atleast for external trade).
I mean, how realistic would it be to buy out a large caravan with a single stack of tin coins, just because your dwarves claim they're worth, say, ☼150'000?
I mean, worth it for their rarity. Remember, currency evolved first as coins of small, valuable metal, and then into promissory notes. In other words, this note, token, or seal can be redeemed from the government for X ounces of gold (or whatever). So for you tin to be 150,000, either a mug of beer will be worth 500,000 or the government must be able to repay 150,000 dorfbucks in material for it. This doesn't mean that you necessarily have to 15,000,000 dorfbucks of material if you make ten coins though, the idea is that soem coins will always be circulating at any time. Of course, is you have 5,000,000 dorfbucks and ten people try to turn in their 150,000 dorfbuck coins on the same day, the economy crashes. That's essentially what happened in 1929.
Setting their value, however, strikes me as absurd - not unless we can have asset-backed currencies.
Sorry, is that not how modern economics works (rhetorical question)?
It is also wholly inappropriate for DF, IMO, especially being issued by player forts. They are neither stable enough, old enough, or large enough to justify that kind of faith, and it's really rather open to player abuse. Bad inflation? Just add a few more zeros to the denomination of the new lead coins!
Well, there's always a way to rectify his low kill count. ;)
Well, there's always a way to rectify his low kill count. ;)
Back on topic, I am currently feeding him captured goblins, elves, and other hostiles to skill him up in Hammers. By the time he's finished, he should have quite a kill list.
Mittens, your Baroness Consort really does seem like she's insane. Reserved and outgoing, assertive and shy, self-disciplined and impulsive. I suspect she secretly lusts after Cacame and reviles him for being an elf, too. ;)
EDIT: She doesn't have a beard, I know.
and it turns out she seems to like warhammers.
LARGE DWARVES
EDIT: She doesn't have a beard, I know.
She's obviously a perverted social deviant, as can only be expected from inbred nobility. Everyone knows that all dwarves, even females, have beards, and this should be taken as a sign of deeper problems and a fundamentally disturbed individual.
Probably an elf sympathiser, too; I think we all know what must be done.
Come on, please don't tell em this epic thread about the only epic elf is going to suddenly degrade into penis jokes because Vester drew him conversing with a girl...
Fantastic. Now Cacame is a deity (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MemeticSexGod).
Actually I like the mental image of him being SO AWESOME that his mere presence prompts conversions to the dwarfy way.
I can't do it, since I have no idea what Morul looks like.
kill off the elf king
Ooh, that's the one he uses for his avatar, right?
Anyway, I say one of the king's engravers should get on that right away.
Caca is also another word for shit
Shitme the elf king?
^ :o :o :o^Compared to the normal elf maximum age of Forever?
OMFGBBQLULZ0RS!
seriously though dude, what were you thinking? I can't even make my fortress last for over 2 years!
Elfsplosion, anyone?
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/upright-dancing-fighting-bears_5345.jpg)Told You! Ha!
If you think you could do a better job , please upload!
Guy with strange accent: Not Check
God Said "Let there be light"
Chuck Norris said "Let there be God"
Cacame said "Let there be Chuck Norris"
Jesus Walked on water, Chuck Norris Swam through land. Cacame did both at the same time.
God Said "Let there be light"
Chuck Norris said "Let there be God"
Cacame said "Let there be Chuck Norris"
Jesus Walked on water, Chuck Norris Swam through land. Cacame did both and swam in magma at the same time.
Can you believe that only a little while ago you were saying that Cacame should be caged and dropped in magma?
I am curious as to the game reason for his apparant invulnerability though; by all accounts that Dragons should have plastered him all over the walls,did you miss the memo? Megabeasts are weak stuff. Sure, if it had breathed, the elf would be toast likely. But the dragon that visited my fort died from a single rock falling on it. (No, not a cavein. Just a rockfall.)
If someone wants to draw something !MANLY!, I did just use Dwarf Companion to turn a few of the elf and goblin females I had caught in cage traps into members of my civ. I figured they have succumbed to his Immortal Onslaught,alas that the game is coded for IMMORTAL MONOGAMY. So he won't go loving again, since his wife be chopped liver.
The Hammerer actually was there to pick up refuse (I tend to turn on hauling jobs for my nobles via Dwarf Manager). She just decided she was going to produce elves for the elf throne!!!1!
Would it be okay if I put this stuff (or some trace of it) in my Morrowind mod; for both Holy Mittens and artists involved (pictured: Vester). If only so that this can be so.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
(as it is, for some reason, for now I can only make a 255x255 picture work as a texture, which truly doesn't do anything as large as what's been made justice, but I tried)
I'm all for you putting it into your Morrowind mod.
I could get pictures of his family tree easily enough.
I've been trying to regenerate the world and have it run several decades past where it stopped the first time to see what would have happened to Cacame naturally. But some point after I genned the world, I must have altered something in the raws, because regenning with all the same seeds doesn't work.
I've been trying to regenerate the world and have it run several decades past where it stopped the first time to see what would have happened to Cacame naturally. But some point after I genned the world, I must have altered something in the raws, because regenning with all the same seeds doesn't work.There is a saying: "When they made him, they broke the mold."
If we're gonna do a DF family tree, we need to do it right- as a PHP that lets you click on the names to see each person's history/kill screenshot.
Then we can make some good fiction from that.
There is a saying: "When they made him, they broke the mold."
Pansie my ass, just wait till she reads your mind and then DEVOURS YOUR FLESH ELF STYLE...all while looking good, of course.
Until they have been properly butchered... DWARVES ARE JEWISH!
Except dwarves go one further than simple circumcision. They remove EVERYTHING.
None of the historical figures or events matches up. The names are the same (at least to begin with), but they rapidly diverge from the fort I'm currently running. I'm scouring my raws, trying to figure out what the problem is, but I can't think of anything I might have modded between year 1 and year 2 of the fort (when I did a backup of the save and the objects folder, just in case).
Not true, Vester. The only randomly generated number is the seed.
I've heard of the butterfly effect occurring from things as small as changing a stone type from vein to cluster, so it's probably something really small you changed.
Not true, Vester. The only randomly generated number is the seed.
I've heard of the butterfly effect occurring from things as small as changing a stone type from vein to cluster, so it's probably something really small you changed.
Yeah, sorry, that's what I meant. The seed starts you off with a world, but in between, something happens.
(So if you gen a world and one civ wins a war over another, and you gen it again with the same seed, will the same outcome happen? I am curious to know.)
Clearly, Cacame has transcended Dwarf Fortress itself. No matter how many times you gen, he'll be gone, because he decided Dwarf Fortress wasn't big and complex enough for him. My god... he'll eventually work his way to reality, and then go past that into the next level, causing a black hole that will kill us all!
Nah, I've had the exact same results happen over and over with the same seed.
I believe during worldgen battles and duels are still decided by %'s and RNG's. So you'll never have the same world, even after genning from the same seed. You will have a similar one, but never the same.
Maybe Dwarf Fortress really works that way - maybe a given seed won't generate the same history over and over again because world generation itself has a random factor. (Who gets born, who dies, who kills who, who wins the war).
Maybe Dwarf Fortress really works that way - maybe a given seed won't generate the same history over and over again because world generation itself has a random factor. (Who gets born, who dies, who kills who, who wins the war).
Um, the whole point of a seed is to control the random factor. The history process (along with the worldgen process) can have millions of places where it asks for a random number and makes a decision based on it - what the seed does is determines what the list of random numbers will be. The seeds control the RNG. That's what they're there for.
@Neruz, yes, any factor will affect it, not just the seeds. But it doesn't change the random number generation. How it works is since any other change might make it ask for a random number in a different place for a different decision, and every time after that will get a random number from a different point in the sequence, that changes how the world turns out.
The key to remember is that the better the random number generator is, the more factors it draws upon. The best random number generators grab unrelated data from all over your system to use in their calculations; the seeds are only the starting point for the calculations, nothing more.
The key to remember is that the better the random number generator is, the more factors it draws upon. The best random number generators grab unrelated data from all over your system to use in their calculations; the seeds are only the starting point for the calculations, nothing more.
Um, except when what you want is to be able to produce the same thing every time.
The random number generator only uses the seed. The same seed will produce the same sequence of 'random' numbers every time. This is extremely useful for some purposes, and DF world generation is one of them. If this was not the case, there would be absolutely no point in providing the seed at all. The worldgen process is influenced in a chaotic way by other factors in the way I described, but that is not the same thing as saying those factors affect the RNG.
You are talking about random number generators for e.g. cryptographic applications, which is an entirely different usage for which that quality is not desirable, and for which using stuff from all over your system (I/O timings, line noise from the sound card, etc) is done. And those don't have anything that can be described as a "seed", because it would be pointless since the only purpose of a seed is to be able to get the same sequence of random numbers.
The key to remember is that the better the random number generator is, the more factors it draws upon. The best random number generators grab unrelated data from all over your system to use in their calculations; the seeds are only the starting point for the calculations, nothing more.
Um, except when what you want is to be able to produce the same thing every time.
The random number generator only uses the seed. The same seed will produce the same sequence of 'random' numbers every time. This is extremely useful for some purposes, and DF world generation is one of them. If this was not the case, there would be absolutely no point in providing the seed at all. The worldgen process is influenced in a chaotic way by other factors in the way I described, but that is not the same thing as saying those factors affect the RNG.
You are talking about random number generators for e.g. cryptographic applications, which is an entirely different usage for which that quality is not desirable, and for which using stuff from all over your system (I/O timings, line noise from the sound card, etc) is done. And those don't have anything that can be described as a "seed", because it would be pointless since the only purpose of a seed is to be able to get the same sequence of random numbers.
The fact that the exact same world, complete with same fights and battle outcomes, occurs with the same world gens tells me that everything in world gen, including the movement of creatures and the outcome of battles, is based on the values in the world gen file, although apparantly not always on the seed values.
The fact that the exact same world, complete with same fights and battle outcomes, occurs with the same world gens tells me that everything in world gen, including the movement of creatures and the outcome of battles, is based on the values in the world gen file, although apparantly not always on the seed values.
That's logical, though. If you change, say, the year the world starts checking for megabeast percentage, you *are* going to get a different world, simply by dint of having to do different calculations, even if you're using the same random number sequence.
Likewise, if you change, say, mesh percentages, you'll get a different terrain gen even with the same numbers.
In either case, the RNG sequence is still the same, only you're not using the numbers the same way. Logically, you're going to get different results in that case.
The fact that the exact same world, complete with same fights and battle outcomes, occurs with the same world gens tells me that everything in world gen, including the movement of creatures and the outcome of battles, is based on the values in the world gen file, although apparantly not always on the seed values.
Logically you'd expect the end year to have no impact on the actual makeup of the world; i certainly expected the checking stuff to be seperate from the actual generation parameters.
This is clearly not the case, what appears to be happening is the 'watcher' is contaminating the 'experiment' by dint of existing, which is interesting and somewhat unexpected. Such contamination is expected in real life, but generally not in computer programs.
Logically you'd expect the end year to have no impact on the actual makeup of the world; i certainly expected the checking stuff to be seperate from the actual generation parameters.
This is clearly not the case, what appears to be happening is the 'watcher' is contaminating the 'experiment' by dint of existing, which is interesting and somewhat unexpected. Such contamination is expected in real life, but generally not in computer programs.
Yes and no. You wouldn't expect the end year to have an effect, unless the change makes the world gen last differently. If you put an earlier end year, you should logically have the world as it had been at that point in time, which might be quite different as to how you had it n years later. If you input a later end year, and that lets worldgen go past the date you had before (because it was genning up to limit), likewise.
If that's not the case (I haven't tested it) then yes, worldgen is doing some spurious RNG calculations, and that might mess stuff up.
The only effective way to actually see how Cacame plays out, may very well involve regenning the world strictly, and then starting up a fort, and just letting it survive for XX amount of years, without hitting neither the King Pop limit, nor HFS.
I already have managed to recreate the original world perfectly. Giving the world out for others to play was never the plan, though I wouldn't mind if people wanted it. I don't particularly think it'd be exceptionally interesting for others to have. Much of the amusement with him has come from the random stuff people have posted and the utterly random events that have occurred in my fort, such as the run of artifacts I had that featured him.
I think it's part of the Dig Deeper mod, which adds in a couple of new things to the likables/engravables list.
There is a VERY important difference, in DF grammar.
An Elven Corpse is just a corpse that is elven (a unique object).
An Elf Corpse is a corpse made out of elf.
SO, if you were to add 'Elf Shirts' instead of 'Elven shirts' know that you imply shirts made out of ambiguous elf parts rather than of the elven craft. Up to you which is more desirable.
Reg is disturbing. There's something unusually wrong about liking chimpanzees for their antics, while at the same time liking dead elves.
I bet he takes care of Cacame's zombie wyvern.
intelligence can be pretty easily judged by 2 things:
do they fuck for fun?
do they kill for fun?
If answer to both is yes, the species is intelligent. Bonus points if they don't distinguish between the two.
Epic as hell.
However, I must draw attention to the skeletal blue dragon. How on earth did they know it was blue? Do blue dragons have blue bones? Was there a bit of skin left? Why and how does it even matter that it's blue, the physiology is all gone! Heck, what if all dragons actually have blue bones? Ugh, I'm gonna get a headache...
Epic as hell.
However, I must draw attention to the skeletal blue dragon. How on earth did they know it was blue? Do blue dragons have blue bones? Was there a bit of skin left? Why and how does it even matter that it's blue, the physiology is all gone! Heck, what if all dragons actually have blue bones? Ugh, I'm gonna get a headache...
What blue dragon?
...
I couldn't do that.
You need one of the epic artists, like Balathustrius or something.
Because this is one of the most bloody awesome things I've ever seen.
Magma would melt the windows, thus giving him emo-magma tears and defeating the point.
Magma would melt the windows, thus giving him emo-magma tears and defeating the point.
Actually I don't think magma melts windows. I once had a fortress with a large magma lagoon, and the entrance was a long, clear glass window tunnel. The windows held up until Orcs got in and broke the windows (My failsafe happened to fail when the raising bridge-gate melted - I put the pressure plates on the wrong side of the bridge)
Now I can't think of anything but Cacame piloting it like a giant mecha
I haven't seen somthing this awesome since RPGenies MM7 character Nelson. And he was an Immortal tank x 1000.
---EDIT---
hey mittens, you should have your next fanfic center around cacame meeting Iwo. (I think thats her name. The one who shaot and killed the elf that ate his wife.) That would be Awsomesauce.
I haven't seen somthing this awesome since RPGenies MM7 character Nelson. And he was an Immortal tank x 1000.
---EDIT---
hey mittens, you should have your next fanfic center around cacame meeting Iwo. (I think thats her name. The one who shaot and killed the elf that ate his wife.) That would be Awsomesauce.
For the record, Iwo and Sibrek are kill-stealing jerks.
Cacame should go on a quest to resurrect the one who killed his wife, so he can kill them. Yeah, that'd be pretty friggin sweet.
Cacame should go on a quest to resurrect the one who killed his wife, so he can kill them. Yeah, that'd be pretty friggin sweet.I second this decision. ;D maybe a two or three story bit? like the odyssey?
Cacame should go on a quest to resurrect the one who killed his wife, so he can kill them. Yeah, that'd be pretty friggin sweet.I second this decision. ;D maybe a two or three story bit? like the odyssey?
Cacame should go on a quest to resurrect the one who killed his wife, so he can kill them. Yeah, that'd be pretty friggin sweet.I second this decision. ;D maybe a two or three story bit? like the odyssey?
That would be literallyepiccacame-esqe.
I like the story. It was very good.
Two things, though. 1) His last name is Awemedinade. I remember it by thinking "Awesome Medicine Lemonade". Or something like that.
You realize of course that waterfalls of blood are even more badass than waterfalls of magma.
If a little gross.
I don't think I have the time to write it, but we ought to (bending reality, yes) write a story about how Cacame forged (or "acquired") his hammer (which we will assume he has always kept, like a badass security blanket) as a happy member of an Elven civ.
it's impossible for egngun to fight cacame. They're from DIFFERENT game worlds and different mods.
Well, he's a Legendary Hammerelf now. Legendary Shield User too.
I'm actually working on writing a story now. It's going to be multiple part, though. The first part should be finished in the next few days.
Edit: Speaking of the Wiki, I've actually been rather surprised that neither Morul nor Captain Ironblood has a wiki entry. They deserve it more than Cacame at this juncture.
I got a few artifact hammers, but my two champion Hammerdwarfs grabbed them. If I get another one, I'll fix it so he can grab it.
This deserves to be drawn.
I KNOW THE HAMMER LOOKS LIKE A SPEAR IT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE
let's just say it's some sort of hammer shaped and designed to be used by elves.
also Shima, if you can carve something in stone that looks better than that I will eat my paint set.
Well, I don't think there's a terribly great deal of difference between a war hammer and a pick besides how sharp you get them and balance-a war hammer is supposed to ha'e a pretty small contact area e'en if it's not pointy. Could probably make the head ha'e a sharp and an unsharp end.I KNOW THE HAMMER LOOKS LIKE A SPEAR IT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE
let's just say it's some sort of hammer shaped and designed to be used by elves.
also Shima, if you can carve something in stone that looks better than that I will eat my paint set.
You do realize that a hammer that does piercing damage would be the bane of everything alive, especially in the hands of Cacame. Imagine that thing twisting in a wound. Yikes.
Well, I don't think there's a terribly great deal of difference between a war hammer and a pick besides how sharp you get them and balance-a war hammer is supposed to ha'e a pretty small contact area e'en if it's not pointy. Could probably make the head ha'e a sharp and an unsharp end.I KNOW THE HAMMER LOOKS LIKE A SPEAR IT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE
let's just say it's some sort of hammer shaped and designed to be used by elves.
also Shima, if you can carve something in stone that looks better than that I will eat my paint set.
You do realize that a hammer that does piercing damage would be the bane of everything alive, especially in the hands of Cacame. Imagine that thing twisting in a wound. Yikes.
...Though, the way that's drawn, it looks like it does slashing damage- would need a pretty awkward swing OR one with the side of the hammer to really get a face to connect with someone.
Not that it's bad-looking. Your art is *art*, Fault.
Speaking of which, you're using Dig Deeper, right? Has he fought any orcs yet?
I modded out orcs
I honestly always picture a "war hammer" as being a "big ass hammer". The proper war hammer is actually what I think of when someone says "war pick" or "horseman's pick".
I think big ass hammers are more dwarfy.
Speaking of which, you're using Dig Deeper, right? Has he fought any orcs yet?
I modded out orcs. I never liked the concept of orcs AND goblins existing together. They are, to me, essentially the same creature given two different names. I replaced what they are conceptually in Dig Deeper (nameless creatures who attack incessantly) with the gibberlings, though the gibberlings are smaller and faster.
Had a fey mood.
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1424/cacame.png)
Why does Cacame want vengeance from a mech? I dunno. I wanted it to be a Warhammer, but I couldn't find any good pictures of a Warhammer facing the camera.
Then again the best weapon is the one that leaves no one alive....In other words, Cacame's hammer
FixedThen again the best weapon is the one that leaves no one alive....In other words, Cacame's presence
His brothers and sisters are all still alive and living in one town together and have done absolutely nothing beyond get married. They're also still part of the elven civilization. So when the dwarves came knocking, his brothers and sisters went running and left him behind.
Did any of you read the whole thing??
It said his brothers and sisters stayed with the elves- so surely Cacame had a REASON to do otherwise.Quote from: Holy MittensHis brothers and sisters are all still alive and living in one town together and have done absolutely nothing beyond get married. They're also still part of the elven civilization. So when the dwarves came knocking, his brothers and sisters went running and left him behind.
I always imagined warhammers in DF as being Mauls (see Elder Scrolls for my confused interpretation). If I'm correct though, you can only hold one, so it makes sense- maybe in DF, a warhammer is meat-tenderizer-shape-free, as opposed to a maul which is a hammer with a spike on the end?Mauls are ALSO in DF. They're too big for dwarfs to use though.
I'd enlarge or crop the wyvern one, and make the comic bigger. The others look great shrunk. You might also want to link to the other Cacame short stories, not just the first one.
Other than that... if you're sure it deserves its own article rather than a post in the stories page, then it probably belongs in a category with Morul and Ironblood. Hell, maybe the Hall of Legends needs a page, with each story given an entry linked by the table of contents.
There should be a new in-game monotheistical religion, 'Cacameism'.
The general lack of your dwarven praise to this baddass elven legend is disturbing :P
And bravo for making wiki article.
EDIT: And to think that 40 pages ago you wanted to magma-drown him. You know what consequences would universe have to bear if Holy Mittens would listen to you way back then? :P
Now we just need a page on Egnun, the dwarf from the greatest dwarf in the world, and of course, Ironblood.
I'm very glad I decided against it. I absolutely hate getting crushed by things being thrown out of my computer monitor.
We have awesome art on cacame and egnum, we need some on Ironblood and Morul.Morul at least has his animation.
askot bokbondeler, engraver, cancels fey mood: boredNeeds more Piss Offed Angry look.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/diosilva16/cacameawemedinade.png)
this is an inconplete engraving of a dwarf, the dwarf is the elf cacame awemedinade
I think Cacame would best be characterized by a flower with magma for nectar.
I think Cacame would best be characterized by a flower with magma for nectar....Megaproject!
For optimum offense to the elves, make as much as possible of it out of steel and clear glass.I think Cacame would best be characterized by a flower with magma for nectar....Megaproject!
Wouldn't making the whole thing out of wood upset them more?For optimum offense to the elves, make as much as possible of it out of steel and clear glass.I think Cacame would best be characterized by a flower with magma for nectar....Megaproject!
Wouldn't making the whole thing out of wood upset them more?I dunno, seems to me that making it out of still recognizable wood wouldn't be as bad as using materials whose manufacture requires wood to be burned and made into ash or coke. Well, the steel could be made with coke from coal, but the idea works better if you use wood-derived charcoal instead. Plus, clear glass lets you see the pulsing magma blood inside the flower.
Soap is the most offensive thing to elves: it requires animal tallow and lye (which is made from ash (made itself of burnt wood)).Ooh, good point.
Soap is the most offensive thing to elves: it requires animal tallow and lye (which is made from ash (made itself of burnt wood)).Ooh, good point.
Is it possible to make a trade depot out of soap?
Grammar is my main issue. If I team up with a Grammar Nazi to fix my writing I would be unstoppable. *Insert evil cackling here*
There are substantially worse things in the world than Elves in Thongs. (http://images.mmosite.com/photo/2007/09/10/wowa008OYI2I60wxg.jpg)Heh, yeah, like:
QuoteThere are substantially worse things in the world than Elves in Thongs. (http://images.mmosite.com/photo/2007/09/10/wowa008OYI2I60wxg.jpg)Heh, yeah, like:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Then that elf is a spy, you should be ashamed for letting an elf ruler on your map.Mmppphff Mph Mpffh mpfff!
Please translate.Then that elf is a spy, you should be ashamed for letting an elf ruler on your map.Mmppphff Mph Mpffh mpfff!
Cacame Aweme-whatever is awesome. Ten to one he'll end up on the walls of forts which aren't even in the same world.Holy crap. I was just re-reading the thread and I saw this. Check the wiki, there is a small mod now that makes Cacame a symbol like circles and broad crosses. He now shows up in other worlds!
As soon as I found out the King would be an elf, I began constructing various selfdestruct devices.What are you even talking about? Are you pretending to be OP or something?
This fort's going out in a blaze of glory. And magma.
As soon as I found out the King would be an elf, I began constructing various selfdestruct devices.What are you even talking about? Are you pretending to be OP or something?
This fort's going out in a blaze of glory. And magma.
We'll always be here to remind them.We need a lore archives, seriously, I only know of the Siegedrivens, Sankis, Boatmurdered, the last heir of Boatmurdered, Cacame, the and the golden years of the elephant scourge, but I can't find any of the other legendary heroes. D:
With warhammers and picks, if necessary.
We'll always be here to remind them.We need a lore archives, seriously, I only know of the Siegedrivens, Sankis, Boatmurdered, the last heir of Boatmurdered, Cacame, the and the golden years of the elephant scourge, but I can't find any of the other legendary heroes. D:
With warhammers and picks, if necessary.
We'll always be here to remind them.We need a lore archives, seriously, I only know of the Siegedrivens, Sankis, Boatmurdered, the last heir of Boatmurdered, Cacame, the and the golden years of the elephant scourge, but I can't find any of the other legendary heroes. D:
With warhammers and picks, if necessary.
If only more people would check out the link in my sig...
Do you think it'll be enough to leave a link in the wiki? One day, you know, all of us will get old and life will suck the best of us down, and then what?
Ah, I'd been wondering who Tholtig was. :) Thanks for that.We'll always be here to remind them.We need a lore archives, seriously, I only know of the Siegedrivens, Sankis, Boatmurdered, the last heir of Boatmurdered, Cacame, the and the golden years of the elephant scourge, but I can't find any of the other legendary heroes. D:
With warhammers and picks, if necessary.
If only more people would check out the link in my sig...
And you could change him to a dwarf as well.
Cacame will deal with heresy on his own terms.
We'll always be here to remind them.
With warhammers and picks, if necessary.
You realize that most people think that Drizzt Daermon Nashezbaernon (apostrophe salting omitted) would be a good magma-death candidate, unlike our erstwhile king?Eh, at least drow know to live underground.
Y'know, with the advent of dwarf companion, you could simply switch cacame's civ allegiance to yours, right? And you could change him to a dwarf as well.
but photoshop is gimp and resizes the photos down considerably.Photoshop is the Gnu Image Manipulation Program? ...um...
Photoshop is the Gnu Image Manipulation Program? ...um...
If all epic dwarf fortress threads should be stickied, we'd have a page worth of them.
Cacame Awesomedinade
I've read boat murdered already, now, onto HeadShoots!
Actually, I was wrong about her being a guard for the town. She was actually a wanderer. I've gone back and gotten pictures from the Legends screen.
If you're wondering why is only goes up to 102 (and thus doesn't have Cacame's nickname and growing kill sheet), it's because it's an old save I have specifically to look at the Legends for this world. Didn't feel like going through the entire save scumming process to look at an up-to-date one since it'd be mostly uninteresting.
Let me know if you want any more besides these.
First of all, the man of the hour, Cacame himself:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Now, his wife, Nemo:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
The elf that brought about Cacame's hatred of all things elf, Amoya:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
The second-most badass elf in the world, the one that killed Amoya, Iwo:In case you're wondering about Iwo's wife there... Yes, she was also killed by other elves. However, Iwo was there and killed her killer in return (Imiwa).Spoiler (click to show/hide)
A few others mentioned in Cacame's history. First, Nisa, the one who managed to rip his lower body (presumably before he discovered his wife had been eaten):Spoiler (click to show/hide)
And the elf Cacame was dueling down at the last event, Nithe:As you can see, the dwarves of the Creation of Ferns are total kill stealers.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Cacame's dad, Fewetha:Yes, his last name is Spokenthundered. And note what happened to him after he was killed. You will notice a similarity when you see...Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Cacame's mother, Osime:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I think this gives us a lot of insight into Cacame. His mother was killed and then eaten by Gibberlings (grotesque creatures that exist to kill, eat, and reproduce), then a year later his FATHER was killed and eaten by them. A decade later, as he is beginning to settle into an easy life as a guard of the town he was born in, his wife was killed and eaten by other elves.
If you're wondering about the rest of Cacame's family, they are all living unimportant lives. Most tragically, they are still living in the elf civilization.
Ok, I looked through his entire family history, up to the origin of the family on both maternal and paternal sides. Incredibly, everyone related to Cacame EXCEPT his brothers and sisters is dead. They were all killed one of two ways: in the war with the dwarves or in a war with the gibberlings (75% of them ended up being eaten, the others killed by gibberlings seemed to avoid being eaten). The split seems to be about 50/50 on who killed them. The vast majority of them aren't all that impressive, some having one or two kills before getting killed themselves.
His brothers and sisters are all still alive and living in one town together and have done absolutely nothing beyond get married. They're also still part of the elven civilization. So when the dwarves came knocking, his brothers and sisters went running and left him behind.
The only member of his extended family who is really notable is his maternal great grandfather, this guy:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
He killed one MegaBeast and fought with another. He was also the leader of the elf civ.
Much like all world-generated creatures, he doesn't have likes and dislikes, though he does have a personality. Which I think happens to be very appropriate for an elf who decided to become a dwarf:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Here's the throne. Blackmetal is from the Dig Deeper mod. It's actually not all that awesome, compared to some wacky artifacts I've gotten before.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
He has never eaten anyone, though he did participate in numerous battles and does have numerous military skills.
As a random side note, I entertained myself on City of Villains this evening making a mock-up of Cacame, complete with his colossus-style purple war hammer. ^_^ Though not nearly as epic as the original, he's already running around killing things in single hits.
I was thinking about pumping magma up his legs and having a floodgate in his crotch. What could be more dorfy than pissing magma upon your enemies?Given that dwarves don't piss yet, vomiting it would be more dorfy.
He does have magma pumped into his eyes.
Though it is less for him to cry emo magma-tears and more to use as a power source for heat vision.
pity you cant pressurize magma then.
this thread is full of win. i love the pictures.
They are Manly Tears! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ManlyTears)He does have magma pumped into his eyes.
Though it is less for him to cry emo magma-tears and more to use as a power source for heat vision.
Emo?
Those are tears of rage.
Were his parents murdered by carp?And sturgeon
Depends. Is this Cacame still alive?
(Also, there was a Cacame in Jefmajor's Let's Play, too, but nowhere near as badass).
so cacame went into the other world and impregnated a woman with the same name as him?One night on Elfchan...
Yeah, this is definitely one of the better things that has happened. Ever.
I've got an unregulated portrait to do for painting this semester. Cacame may well fill that slot.
Keep in mind that I'm not all that good, so no hope-gearing now, but I will give it a shot.Yeah, this is definitely one of the better things that has happened. Ever.
I've got an unregulated portrait to do for painting this semester. Cacame may well fill that slot.
Portrait? This interests me.
Say, I'm still wondering if we're going to see any more of your stories?
I want to write an entire novel based on Cacame,I nearly shit myself when I read this, it will be awesome, really hope you do
I'm still waiting for a goblin or kobold king, but sadly it seems dwarves don't tend to actually go to war (and thus conquer) goblins or kobolds with anywhere near the frequency of elves.Somebody had a goblin king named Wraith Sicknesslie a while back, but he wasn't very badass.
I don't know if you CAN war Kobs.
But I think it's more that elves get wood and gobs, etc. get iron...
Probably can't happen thanks to [UTTERANCES] anyway."He's mandated something, but we can't tell what."
I don't know if you CAN war Kobs.
But I think it's more that elves get wood and gobs, etc. get iron...
They siege you if they manage to steal a lot of stuff. Honestly, Ive never seen it, and I think that your fortress design/defense must be structurally backwards if this happens by accident (or you forget about your wagon).
I don't know if you CAN war Kobs.
But I think it's more that elves get wood and gobs, etc. get iron...
They siege you if they manage to steal a lot of stuff. Honestly, Ive never seen it, and I think that your fortress design/defense must be structurally backwards if this happens by accident (or you forget about your wagon).
I've had it happen after they steal a bunch of stuff from corpses and dead caravans outside my walls.
well, look what I found in my most recent fort's civ file...
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I checked her info on the legends screen. In addition to fighting a titan, She's also a grandmother.
guess I better download Dwarf Companion so she doesn't wander off and die...
(Ngokang is a common goblin name).
Suffice to say that I do not want to see Deon's take on an ancient goblin grandmother
Do mind that gobbos are immortal.Suffice to say that I do not want to see Deon's take on an ancient goblin grandmother
you jinxed it, sensei. Now that's going to happen. I hope you're happy.
also, mittens? why would your version effect the mod's function? isn't all the content just raw files in text format? Unless the coding system was different between versions... ???
Because of the power of having all the races in vanilla DF under their control,I see no kobolds here. Can they be warred?
Because of the power of having all the races in vanilla DF under their control,I see no kobolds here. Can they be warred?
Deon thinks elves are blue.Only if they are worship Lloth?
Drow seem more purple to me. like, a dark purple.Deon thinks elves are blue.Only if they are worship Lloth?
Drow sound like they would make a great ambush. Imagine 50 stealthed drow in steel armor riding into combat on giant cave spiders.
That will probably have something to do with the fact that steel weapons and armor are what, almost 3 times better than wooden ones? Elves have superior speed, which translates into 1st hit, which translates into instant death for the target, given enough skill and equipment superiority.
Given that it's elven, I've been playing with the idea that one or both of the "c"s are soft "c"s, so that it might be like "KAH-sah-may"
Figured Ca-ca-meh Ahwe-med-in-ah-day/
We could figure out the soft C question by looking in the dictionary, you know- the individual words have to be logically pronounceable, and would not likely change we compounded.
Cacame isn't compounded, though. II wt just means "pelt" or "hide". (while Aweme means "ape", and Dinade means "bald"... I guess you can say his name means something like "pelt of the hairless ape")
Does Cacame worship a deity?
It is a metaphor. Elves are the hairless apes. Elves are fair and without beards or other body hair.
And while Cacame is an elf in body, he has the soul of a dwarf. So he is the "pelt" of an elf wrapped around the soul of a dwarf.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I know that this topic is very old, but, if the owner of Cacame's world could reply, it would be great. I want to use him as a NPC in a roleplaying game, but first I want to ask for permission.
I know that this topic is very old, but, if the owner of Cacame's world could reply, it would be great. I want to use him as a NPC in a roleplaying game, but first I want to ask for permission.NEEEEEEEEEEEEEECRO!
I know that this topic is very old, but, if the owner of Cacame's world could reply, it would be great. I want to use him as a NPC in a roleplaying game, but first I want to ask for permission.NEEEEEEEEEEEEEECRO!
Anyways, your Cacame (As you describe) would be more likely to be sued by Nintendo forresemblancemurdering Link.
Oh thats nothing , I saw a human civilization with a Demon leader >.< (and they were saying praise torture , how the heck he became a law giver anways?), I just wished to gut out that guy but my adventurer was to goodThats actually very common, demons rule as dictators in goblin civs and as false gods in human civs.
I beleive it's getting necros because of a link on tvtropes.In my case, it was a bunch of references in various wiki pages to his own wiki entry that eventually made me curious.
Hello?
*Sniff* I'm the last one!That's because this thread was started when I got here... back around 2009.
Lets end this here.
Also, to future Necro'er, think twice about posting here. Every time you do, a Dwarf cries.
Lets end this here.
Also, to future Necro'er, think twice about posting here. Every time you do, a Dwarf cries.
I am putting together a website, though, that will feature my short stories and I still have germinating plans to write a novel that features Cacame in it, though in a somewhat different setting than the one utilized in Dwarf Fortress.
I fully support the creation of any religious movements in Cacame's name.
I am putting together a website, though, that will feature my short stories and I still have germinating plans to write a novel that features Cacame in it, though in a somewhat different setting than the one utilized in Dwarf Fortress.
If you write a full-size novel about Cacame, you should make it into an ebook. After seeing the quality of your writing, I would gladly pay money for a novel of that quality.
I join the legion of people who made their accounts to post in this thread. Admittedly though, I thought I'd made this a while ago. As one who likely stands out from that crowd though, I've been following this thread for around half a year. I only finished reading it all a few minutes ago. My first time around, I only got to about page 30.you don't worry, this thread is immortal and thus may never die
I am a great fan of Vester and Fault's artwork as well as Holy Mittens' storywork.
P.S. I apologize for making a dwarf cry by necroing this.
-snip-Ignoring the obvious necromancy. . .
Hey! Don't insult Cacame! He's awesome.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Elf king!?
Dwarf Council:
Urist1: "why is the elf here?!"
Urist2: "we conquered them, they need representation"
Urist speaker: "the first subject is: carp infested rivers"
Elf: "I say we pour magma into the river"
Dwarfs: ..... KING! KING! KING!
Elf king!?
Elf king.....
ARMOK HAS FORSAKEN US ALL!
Elf king.....
ARMOK HAS FORSAKEN US ALL!
Not at all. (http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Cacame_Awemedinade)
Just had an elven merchant named Cacame, t'was win.
Just had an elven merchant named Cacame, t'was win.
Quick, use dfhack's 'makeown' function on him, see if you can make him a noble or a hammerdwarf. Hammerelf. Whatever.
Or at least, any creature with enough strength to do so would be so overpowered as to bring any form of sanity in worldgen to a screeching halt and begin spiking it's head repeatedly into a microwave oven.Just had an elven merchant named Cacame, t'was win.
Quick, use dfhack's 'makeown' function on him, see if you can make him a noble or a hammerdwarf. Hammerelf. Whatever.
Alas the times you could have a Hammerlord cause someone fly off 20+ squares with one hit are long gone and any new Cacame would be all but a pale shadow of the one true dwarven elf king.
I think Cacame is proof that when Elves are taken out of their normal civ, they become EXTREMELY badass. They have sufficient strength and their agility bonuses let them basically dodge every attack thrown at them. Plus they're immortal. It's their restrictive civ that prevents them from beasting everyone else.All those hard mods just need to make a elf civ capable of using iron, and they'd be more terrifying a foe than Orcs ever were.
I think Cacame is proof that when Elves are taken out of their normal civ, they become EXTREMELY badass. They have sufficient strength and their agility bonuses let them basically dodge every attack thrown at them. Plus they're immortal. It's their restrictive civ that prevents them from beasting everyone else.All those hard mods just need to make a elf civ capable of using iron, and they'd be more terrifying a foe than Orcs ever were.
I think Cacame is proof that when Elves are taken out of their normal civ, they become EXTREMELY badass. They have sufficient strength and their agility bonuses let them basically dodge every attack thrown at them. Plus they're immortal. It's their restrictive civ that prevents them from beasting everyone else.All those hard mods just need to make a elf civ capable of using iron, and they'd be more terrifying a foe than Orcs ever were.
1: Cacame was blonde
His hair was a color so dark it was called black by any but the most discerning of eyes, so it shall be called black here.
Unfortunately, this was before descriptions. However some amount of facts were unofficially agreed upon.
1: Cacame was blonde
2: Cacame did not have a beard, however would occasionally wear a fake one. It was prone to falling off, and stopped.
3: Cacame's ears pointed back, rather than to the sides.
4: Cacame was often depicted as lithe, like his elven heritage. This did not diminish his strength.
He actually sounds like a pretty Dwarfy elf; his family being eaten alive by other elves lends him a pretty awesome backstory and undying hate for elves. Build him a nice little house out of wood wherever he ends up on the field and post a permanent military squad there to defend him from other elves.
Unfortunately, this was before descriptions. However some amount of facts were unofficially agreed upon.
1: Cacame was blonde
2: Cacame did not have a beard, however would occasionally wear a fake one. It was prone to falling off, and stopped.
3: Cacame's ears pointed back, rather than to the sides.
4: Cacame was often depicted as lithe, like his elven heritage. This did not diminish his strength.
Ah, okay. I'm doing a pencil sketch of him, so hair colour doesn't really matter too much (though I was imagining him blonde), but what I've done already either complies to this criteria or avoids contradicting it (he's lithe, and his hair hides his ears), with the exception of the fake beard. See, recently I read a story concerning the legendary foundation of the Lombards (an ancient Germanic tribe) in which women braided their long hair in front of their face in order to look like beards - I thought it would be cool if Cacame did the same. Admittedly it's not very convincing, but having a beard is an important part of dorfiness. :D
That sounds pretty god damn sweet, even making it original by using the German hair-beard-idea. Although I don't think that his hair should cover the ears, as those are what gives away that he is an elfand not some random human, incapable of growing a beard. But as an artist, you choose these things yourself.
Really looking forward to see it though!
Needs more unbridled testosterone, I think.
Maybe have him holding a kobold heart... in front of it's owner.
Also he needs a huge hammer, not to compensate for his inadequacy but for everyone elses compared to him.
Needs more unbridled testosterone, I think.
Maybe have him holding a kobold heart... in front of it's owner.
Also he needs a huge hammer, not to compensate for his inadequacy but for everyone elses compared to him.
a pretty Dwarfy elf
2nded, Cacame wouldn't be wielding some low quality poverty-hammer. Give him the real shit! http://images.wikia.com/pjdf/images/2/2f/Warhammer_render.jpg (http://images.wikia.com/pjdf/images/2/2f/Warhammer_render.jpg) This looks more like what Cacame would use, although sadly, I'm pretty sure the lore only allows him one of them...
Other than that it looks pretty sweet, maybe a bit more cheekbones to make him look more manly? As he was;a pretty Dwarfy elf
Drawing Cacame ? Well, you must draw him in Frank Frazetta style, of course !
Anyway, the hammer is too small.
I doubt that this little hammer would allow him to do things like this:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Anyway, the hammer is too small.
I doubt that this little hammer would allow him to do things like this:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I don't see how an anvil on a stick would make such feats any easier - if anything it'd be harder, because the increased weight of the weapon would make swings very slow and hard to aim.
Anyway, the hammer is too small.
I doubt that this little hammer would allow him to do things like this:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I don't see how an anvil on a stick would make such feats any easier - if anything it'd be harder, because the increased weight of the weapon would make swings very slow and hard to aim.
2nded, Cacame wouldn't be wielding some low quality poverty-hammer. Give him the real shit! http://images.wikia.com/pjdf/images/2/2f/Warhammer_render.jpg (http://images.wikia.com/pjdf/images/2/2f/Warhammer_render.jpg) This looks more like what Cacame would use ...You are confusing a maul (http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/505522-maul) with a war-hammer (http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/539834-the-war-hammer). His depiction of Cacame with a war-hammer is definitely the better way to go with it unless Cacame used a maul in combat.
2nded, Cacame wouldn't be wielding some low quality poverty-hammer. Give him the real shit! http://images.wikia.com/pjdf/images/2/2f/Warhammer_render.jpg (http://images.wikia.com/pjdf/images/2/2f/Warhammer_render.jpg) This looks more like what Cacame would use ...You are confusing a maul (http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/505522-maul) with a war-hammer (http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/539834-the-war-hammer). His depiction of Cacame with a war-hammer is definitely the better way to go with it unless Cacame used a maul in combat.
That king is a SPYYYY
The spinning Obsidian strikes Valikdu in the head.
Valikdu has been struck down.
Has this thread died? .-.This thread died in 2010, my friend.
Has this thread died? .-.This thread died in 2010, my friend.
But every few months, someone new to the forums discovers it, either by forum delving or via the wiki, and posts without looking at the dates...
And usually, asks whether it died.
Worry not, this ritual is yearly. Sometimes monthly.Has this thread died? .-.This thread died in 2010, my friend.
But every few months, someone new to the forums discovers it, either by forum delving or via the wiki, and posts without looking at the dates...
And usually, asks whether it died.
Wow Im late
Derp
Yeah, I discovered this thread late last night. And for some reason, I hadn't realised elves were cannibals as well as hippies/giant/immortal/idiots/jerks(exception being Cacame, of course).Only in DF.
Same for mermaids being a viable source of income!Yeah, I discovered this thread late last night. And for some reason, I hadn't realised elves were cannibals as well as hippies/giant/immortal/idiots/jerks(exception being Cacame, of course).Only in DF.
It has occurred again!Worry not, this ritual is yearly. Sometimes monthly.Has this thread died? .-.This thread died in 2010, my friend.
But every few months, someone new to the forums discovers it, either by forum delving or via the wiki, and posts without looking at the dates...
And usually, asks whether it died.
Wow Im late
Derp
Within 3 and a half months it was necro'd again.It has occurred again!Worry not, this ritual is yearly. Sometimes monthly.Has this thread died? .-.This thread died in 2010, my friend.
But every few months, someone new to the forums discovers it, either by forum delving or via the wiki, and posts without looking at the dates...
And usually, asks whether it died.
Wow Im late
Derp
*counts on his fingers and toes*Within 3 and a half months it was necro'd again.It has occurred again!Worry not, this ritual is yearly. Sometimes monthly.Has this thread died? .-.This thread died in 2010, my friend.
But every few months, someone new to the forums discovers it, either by forum delving or via the wiki, and posts without looking at the dates...
And usually, asks whether it died.
Wow Im late
Derp
Cacame is more magic than I thought.
Thus goes the epic tale of Cacame Apebalded, Elven King of the Dwarves.We got our necro early this month!
Shima: I bring you... Awemedinite!
(for version 0.28.181.40d only)
Would a modder please fix it for the latest version?
I can't help but wonder why Tholtig Cryptbrain doesn't receive this level of celebration.
Cacame, on the other hand was an elf! See, a story about overcoming one's birth flaws and becoming awesome
Cacame, on the other hand was an elf! See, a story about overcoming one's birth flaws and becoming awesome
Looking at the raws, the only _birth_ flaw of elves is a slight penalty to patience. All the "value" definitions and ethics are part of the civilisation package and apply to every civilisation member, independent of species. An elf who's member of the dwarven civ values industry and abhors trees and should be held to the same standards as any other (cultural) dwarf.
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I've made worlds while trying to keep gobs from overpopulating which had things like elf lords of dark fortresses with a handful of gobs, towns with a dorf in charge of a bunch of humans, towns with elves as the owner/running the joint, and even a fortress conquered by elves with one in charge... though I got them to give up their claim on the site... and put the administrator in charge of a group named The Glorious Destroyer of Trees because ha ha.
I swear I've got a goblin queen of dorfs in one of my worlds somewhere, trying to track her down.
Cacame was an interesting drinking companion, I'll give him that.
hey. I can't look at the images on your first post because the entire website they are on doesn't exist anymore.Wow, you made me feel old. :(
If you replace http://homebasecomics.com/ with http://goldendaydreams.com/homebasearchive/ in the URL for most of the images, they should work properly if you really want to see them all again. At least for images I posted originally.Ey, you can't just link a thing with 3 years of backlog like that. I have just been stuck reading a bunch of comic pages of variable but increasing quality for 2 hours.
If you replace http://homebasecomics.com/ with http://goldendaydreams.com/homebasearchive/ in the URL for most of the images, they should work properly if you really want to see them all again. At least for images I posted originally.Ey, you can't just link a thing with 3 years of backlog like that. I have just been stuck reading a bunch of comic pages of variable but increasing quality for 2 hours.
I don't think it's just those. A lot if the art has vanished, and df wiki is also expired so we can't check there. Please tell me someone saved all those other images.
Hell I'm interested in the campaign itself, and how Cacame bricked it with his force of personality
Hell I'm interested in the campaign itself, and how Cacame bricked it with his force of personality
I have *hundreds* of pages of notes, so I will have to skip a lot, but as briefly as I can:
The campaign world is pseudo earth, in 1153. I've replaced certain groups with fantasy races and modified history accordingly. Egyptians are elves. Turks are hobgoblins *but never to their face*. Etc etc. The egyptians/elves have been locked in a long war with an "Enemy" - the kind that has a capital E - in the south. Casualties of this war sometimes have their memories wiped out by foul sorcery. This is very painful for the survivors of such attacks, and some leave Egypt, finding it too painful to remain there with most of their memories gone. Some return, other never do. Cacame is such an elf.
Anyway, the party is on a big quest because they messed up in Turkey and freed the *evil bad* (not the Enemy) and now must follow the Silk road in search of a legendary being that can defeat the *evil bad*, because no one else can.
While on the road a bit past Ray (modern day Tehran, Iran), they start hearing rumors about King Cacame, who is uniting the dwarven tribes. Then they start hearing rumors that he is an *elf* - a wandering warrior who hired himself out for food. His fierce courage and cunning was remarkable and he grew in fame until he became the old king's champion. When the old dwarven king died, he was proclaimed the new king by acclamation. Cacame remembers almost nothing of his elven culture, and had fully adopted dwarven ways. His followers are fanatically loyal.
One of the players has a dwarven character, and is very intrigued. Another, an elf, is also very curious. Later on the road, they find a disturbing scene - several men, slaughtered, along with a sign that says:
"Here are the remains of the wickeds, who were punished for the Hudud of Highway Robbery, in concordance with Asharite laws, and by the will of Cacame, King under the Mountains. May all just men rejoice and evil doers know fear"
This is a bold statement - it's basically saying that the local rulers aren't doing their job, so he is doing it for them! The players are impressed. The party presses on, and reaches the Karakum desert, on the way to Merv, one of the largest cities to exist at that time. They also see a sign proclaiming this spot to be the end of Cacame's territory.
I, as the DM, was just messing with them. It wasn't the end of the Cacame story! The party was going to arrive in Merv and get dragged into local intrigue that involved Cacame having sneaked in the city to convince the local dwarves to leave and join him. Buuuut the players thought that the sign was the end of Cacame's involvement in the game, and were so upset they wanted to *turn back*. I had to privately contact half of them and tell them to have faith in me ;)
That's how awesome Cacame is :P
(I can detail the events in Merv if anyone care, but that is the end of the derailment story)
I have *hundreds* of pages of notes, so I will have to skip a lot, but as briefly as I can:
Just noticed Cacame is in this video at 0:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzeeV_Dl9gw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzeeV_Dl9gw)
That is sweet. It took me a couple of times for me to spot.Just noticed Cacame is in this video at 0:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzeeV_Dl9gw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzeeV_Dl9gw)
HOLY SHIT.
Just noticed Cacame is in this video at 0:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzeeV_Dl9gw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzeeV_Dl9gw)
Anyone have the pictures from the first post? i'd love to see them.
Guys, search the forum for "TVROPERS NEEDED"A fellow troper, I'll help
Im trying to get Cacame in the Pantheon!
Just noticed Cacame is in this video at 0:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzeeV_Dl9gw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzeeV_Dl9gw)
Now that's awesome :D
That being said, this song is far far dwarfier (but no Cacame)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytWz0qVvBZ0
*applies threadomancy*
This thread deserves to be risen every now and then!.....maybe we should just ask the toad to pin it?YES.
This thread deserves to be risen every now and then!.....maybe we should just ask the toad to pin it?
This thread deserves to be risen every now and then!.....maybe we should just ask the toad to pin it?This and Tholtig.
Have you SEEN some of the character backstorys this guys written? He's already probably beating Tolkein in page count (Im exaggerating, but still.)What, me?
mostBADASS Elf
If you set your badass standard that high, you'd have to count figures like Tholtig as not badass.Wait. If Cacame is like this while sober...
Remember - Cacame did almost all of this while not needing alcohol to function.
RUN FOR YOUR LIVES
Wait. If Cacame is like this while sober...
What happens when he's drunk?
So the damned elves took over?
MY GOD! THEY'RE LIKELY BRAINWASHING YOUR DWARVES RIGHT NOW!Spoiler (click to show/hide)
So the damned elves took over?
MY GOD! THEY'RE LIKELY BRAINWASHING YOUR DWARVES RIGHT NOW!Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Someone who doesn't like Cacame...... Well, Reyn, you are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.
Have you READ the thread?
So the damned elves took over?
MY GOD! THEY'RE LIKELY BRAINWASHING YOUR DWARVES RIGHT NOW!Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Someone who doesn't like Cacame...... Well, Reyn, you are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.
Have you READ the thread?
I know I know. I was kidding. Sorry.
If kobolds spoke more than utterances and could join real societies, I expect that we would have one of those instead of the elf cacame.We'd still have Cacame, because the paradox of 'dwarf enemy race' and 'king of dwarves' is the cool bit.
As is, the paradoxical nature of the character is most of what makes them compelling.
I am still waiting for a goblin archdruid though.