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Dirst

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4470 on: June 20, 2016, 01:13:23 pm »

Toady means to allow grain/freight elevators and boats and such, all we hear is "crush shit with huge metal walls" it seems.

Isn't that kinda the standard for most new features? How can we use this to crush shit.

I'm looking forward to hearing how much we will really be able to do with it. Kinda hoping there will be some underwater building applications, instead of having to drain the ocean. Even just dropping a "box" of dwarves to the bottom of the ocean without flattening them would be pretty cool.
It's almost like you're trying to put Chief Medical Dwarves out of work ;)
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4471 on: June 20, 2016, 01:26:02 pm »

I'm looking forward to hearing how much we will really be able to do with it. Kinda hoping there will be some underwater building applications, instead of having to drain the ocean. Even just dropping a "box" of dwarves to the bottom of the ocean without flattening them would be pretty cool.

You mean at long last, we could pull off a Journey to the Center of the Earth without cave-in logic ruining it?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4472 on: June 20, 2016, 09:52:38 pm »

with the new system of weapon and armour damage, do you intend to implement a way or repairing damage? if repairing is implemented, will it require more resources (some more bronze to repair a damaged bronze item etc). does (should?) the damage apply to artifacts? i like the idea of repairing any of my military's named items, even if they aren't artifacts.

will we see swords breaking into two separate pieces (blade/hilt etc), or gauntlets lose a finger, or chain mail lose some links? lots of fantasy about reforging broken swords, after all. items losing pieces would likely cause item bloat in many cases, and a pretty major rework even if it didnt bloat (so not any time soon i guess).

 i would love to see the a quest to reforge the legendary hammer, "roughlung", a cat soap warhammer, broken when it struck the legendary...... well, pretty much anything really
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4473 on: June 20, 2016, 10:36:52 pm »

with the new system of weapon and armour damage, do you intend to implement a way or repairing damage? if repairing is implemented, will it require more resources (some more bronze to repair a damaged bronze item etc). does (should?) the damage apply to artifacts? i like the idea of repairing any of my military's named items, even if they aren't artifacts.

will we see swords breaking into two separate pieces (blade/hilt etc), or gauntlets lose a finger, or chain mail lose some links? lots of fantasy about reforging broken swords, after all. items losing pieces would likely cause item bloat in many cases, and a pretty major rework even if it didnt bloat (so not any time soon i guess).

 i would love to see the a quest to reforge the legendary hammer, "roughlung", a cat soap warhammer, broken when it struck the legendary...... well, pretty much anything really
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4474 on: June 20, 2016, 10:51:17 pm »

with the new system of weapon and armour damage, do you intend to implement a way or repairing damage? if repairing is implemented, will it require more resources (some more bronze to repair a damaged bronze item etc). does (should?) the damage apply to artifacts? i like the idea of repairing any of my military's named items, even if they aren't artifacts.

Way ahead of you guys, I already added some repair reactions to Adventurecraft.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4475 on: June 21, 2016, 08:30:01 am »

Just curious, are recipes and the cooking overhaul still on the table (so to speak) for the near future?

To be honest, it was my most anticipated feature for the entire tavern arc. It's always been a bit crazy to me that the game simulates 40 different species of grass but only three types of cooked food. :P
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4476 on: June 21, 2016, 08:36:57 am »

Are we going to be able to build and manage our own tavern in adv mode anytime soon? To be honest I've been waiting for this for years now and I feel that there is little missing - we can now build in adv mode and claim places for ourselves, but can't designate areas as taverns, brew drinks, prepare meals, serve customers or hire waitresses or entartainers. Please Toady, I've been waiting for years now.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4477 on: June 21, 2016, 10:45:43 am »

Are we going to be able to build and manage our own tavern in adv mode anytime soon? To be honest I've been waiting for this for years now and I feel that there is little missing - we can now build in adv mode and claim places for ourselves, but can't designate areas as taverns, brew drinks, prepare meals, serve customers or hire waitresses or entartainers. Please Toady, I've been waiting for years now.

Taverns won't really work without economy. Quote from the "development" page:

"Without more economic activity, dealing with fortress mode tavern revenue and the supply of adventure mode taverns isn't the focus at this point."
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4478 on: June 21, 2016, 10:57:00 am »

any plan to reorganize stragglers job interfaces (like jewlery workshopt) to the new system?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4479 on: June 21, 2016, 10:59:36 am »

Are we going to be able to build and manage our own tavern in adv mode anytime soon? To be honest I've been waiting for this for years now and I feel that there is little missing - we can now build in adv mode and claim places for ourselves, but can't designate areas as taverns, brew drinks, prepare meals, serve customers or hire waitresses or entartainers. Please Toady, I've been waiting for years now.

You can designate tavern zones, and assign companions to them. However, as far as I've seen no one ever visits those places. And I've yet to determine whether an NPC assigned there will serve drinks or not. At a bare minimum, they don't seem to change unit type to tavern keeper, though since I don't think you can recruit tavern keepers, that might be a good thing.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4480 on: June 21, 2016, 11:11:42 am »

At a bare minimum, they don't seem to change unit type to tavern keeper, though since I don't think you can recruit tavern keepers, that might be a good thing.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4481 on: June 21, 2016, 12:31:03 pm »

"Ick... what is this?"
"Dwarven wine!"
"No it's not, and I don't see any plump helmets back there."
"What's a plump helmet?  I've been squeezing some dwarves who came to the inn last week."

Technically I meant to avoid any problems that "I'm retroactively unrecruitable" might cause, but that answer works too. :V
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4482 on: June 21, 2016, 12:50:06 pm »

any plan to reorganize stragglers job interfaces (like jewlery workshopt) to the new system?

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4483 on: June 21, 2016, 04:20:07 pm »

Are we going to be able to build and manage our own tavern in adv mode anytime soon? To be honest I've been waiting for this for years now and I feel that there is little missing - we can now build in adv mode and claim places for ourselves, but can't designate areas as taverns, brew drinks, prepare meals, serve customers or hire waitresses or entartainers. Please Toady, I've been waiting for years now.

You can designate tavern zones, and assign companions to them. However, as far as I've seen no one ever visits those places. And I've yet to determine whether an NPC assigned there will serve drinks or not. At a bare minimum, they don't seem to change unit type to tavern keeper, though since I don't think you can recruit tavern keepers, that might be a good thing.
Toady already said this is an unfinished feature that won't do anything right now in last month's future of the fortress reply.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4484 on: June 21, 2016, 07:58:33 pm »

Wonder if the manager will get any upgrades for things beyond workshop orders. Like mine x amount of coal or fell x amount of sand pear trees.
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