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Author Topic: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread  (Read 1246920 times)

Owlbread

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4635 on: January 23, 2013, 09:22:32 am »

I'm sure than in a decade or so homophobia will be considered as racism is now.
I sure hope not. Homophobia being considered bad? Yes please. Homophobia being considered equal to Joseph Mengele and Ubisoft eating mentally disabled babies of impoverished minority families? No thanks.

Or, you know, if you maybe tone it down a bit, how's about calling a gay man a "f*ggot" being considered as bad as calling a black man the N word. That makes sense to me.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4636 on: January 23, 2013, 09:25:36 am »

I am okay with that.

As long as the street gays can still call each other faggots in their operas.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4637 on: January 23, 2013, 09:45:25 am »

I sure hope not. Homophobia being considered bad? Yes please. Homophobia being considered equal to Joseph Mengele and Ubisoft eating mentally disabled babies of impoverished minority families? No thanks.
You sure owned that strawman!
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4638 on: January 23, 2013, 09:46:43 am »

I did, didn't I? :)
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4639 on: January 23, 2013, 09:47:46 am »

I sure hope not. Homophobia being considered bad? Yes please. Homophobia being considered equal to Joseph Mengele and Ubisoft eating mentally disabled babies of impoverished minority families? No thanks.
You sure owned that strawman!

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4642 on: January 23, 2013, 05:24:19 pm »

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/leon-panetta-lifts-ban-on-women-serving-in-combat-86624.html

Seems like women may be allowed into combat roles soon.  This seems pretty surprising, I hadn't heard anything about it before now.

Interesting article: http://www.nbcnews.com/business/holy-hal-robot-stole-my-job-1B8057232
We need to change our economic model, really.  The creation of more wealth really doesn't have to be a bad thing.
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« Reply #4643 on: January 23, 2013, 05:30:25 pm »

It's quite ridiculous that women aren't allowed into combat roles yet. The Soviets were doing it over half a century ago, I don't see why the US armed forces shouldn't have women in combat roles.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4644 on: January 23, 2013, 05:37:23 pm »

AFAIK during WWII they were only doing non-combat stuff, like relaying messages - but there were exceptions, sure. If they can do the job, why shouldn't they be allowed to?

Interesting article: http://www.nbcnews.com/business/holy-hal-robot-stole-my-job-1B8057232
We need to change our economic model, really.  The creation of more wealth really doesn't have to be a bad thing.
I never quite got why people think the destruction of jobs via increased productivity is a bad thing. A way around it could be the (gradual) reduction of working hours to distribute the weight on more shoulders, so to speak.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4645 on: January 23, 2013, 05:41:22 pm »

Well it's clear why it's a bad thing under the current system - the workers who relied on that money lose it, and it instead gets swallowed up by the rich.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4646 on: January 23, 2013, 05:46:46 pm »

Large businesses should definitely be hiring more people to work less hours for more pay.  It's a fucking crime that isn't happening.  Instead they're continuing to place more expectations on less people.  In fact, I don't believe there's any excuse for full-time schedules to exist anymore, except for high demand specializations like doctors.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4647 on: January 23, 2013, 05:54:05 pm »

Yep, we really could be on a 32 hour work week by now. It would reduce unemployment, and could give people more time for leisure and family, making them healthier and happier.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4648 on: January 23, 2013, 05:59:21 pm »

The Working Time Directive puts the maximum at 48 hours here, which is a start I guess.  I think that only really affected junior doctors though.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #4649 on: January 23, 2013, 06:01:16 pm »

I think we could do better than that by far, actually, if we put some effort into cutting out a lot of superfluous bullshit work (like my job).
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