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[lordcooper]

Of course, since I have full intent of getting built in recording hardware at some point for a whole bevy of perfectly reasonable purposes, these sorts of laws kind of rub me the wrong way.

Porn?

[fqllve]

I'm pretty sure video can never be libel. Obviously the commentary on it can. So I guess your argument is that the videos might be used to garner attention for libel?

Yes that, and that the situations can be fabricated. You'd also be surprised what the power of editing can do.

I don't think any that justifies this though.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I'm pretty sure video can never be libel. Obviously the commentary on it can.

Commentary would be slander. But slander convictions are nearly impossible. As long as you can claim you believe what you're saying with any level of believability, or have any kind of proof of what you're saying, no matter how unreasonable, conviction for slander is nigh-impossible. Even without any of that, blocking someone's speech is hard to sell to a jury.

Anyway, the courts won't uphold these kinds of bills. The only reason SCOTUS hasn't done it already is that the cop-related ones haven't reached them yet.

[GlyphGryph]

Is it libel if the commentary is text-based? Because that's the sort I was thinking of. Let's just call it defamation.

Yes that, and that the situations can be fabricated. You'd also be surprised what the power of editing can do.

If they are just going to fabricate things, well, they don't really need to make an actual recording of inside the plant, right? And there are already laws against that? This law seems to explicitly target those who AREN'T engaged in fabrication.

[SalmonGod]

Autistic kid arrested for jokingly attempting to sell a sugar packet at school as his "secret sugar rush concoction" due to zero-tolerance substance abuse policy.

[Scelly9]

Autistic kid arrested for jokingly attempting to sell a sugar packet at school as his "secret sugar rush concoction" due to zero-tolerance substance abuse policy.

HRRRRGH. I seriously HATE zero-tolerance. Idiotic.

[Owlbread]

Zero tolerance just means you're too weak to give quarter where it's due. That would require a level of thought that you're too disorganised to manage.

[Nadaka]

I'm not really a sports person, but whenever I find a positive story about women in sports, I try to share it here.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/18/sports/autoracing/danica-patrick-earns-pole-for-daytona-500.html?ref=sports

What this means is that she is the first woman to win the fastest lap during the qualifying round of the NASCAR Sprint Cup series. This is her second year at this race and she out drove several well known and highly regarded drivers to win that position.

[lorb]

Unfortunately not everyone can or wants to climb over the paywall the nytimes has put in place. (Although imho it definitely is the best newspaper around and I can recommend subscribing it.)

[penguinofhonor]

... paywall?

[Reelya]

Unfortunately not everyone can or wants to climb over the paywall the nytimes has put in place. (Although imho it definitely is the best newspaper around and I can recommend subscribing it.)

They're still highly corporate and biased in favor of "American (corporate) Interests". e.g. their total lack of coverage of Latin American trade blocs like UNASUR and CELAC (US corporate media as a whole seems to have a permanent news blackout on any positive developments from South America which the USA doesn't dominate, but will cover anything negative, no matter how petty and irrelevant).

e.g:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_of_Latin_American_and_Caribbean_States

Potentially the biggest economic/political event in the hemisphere, yet not a SINGLE searchable reference to this in nytimes online. (google "nytimes celac". The closest nytimes comes to mentioning this is "Celiac disease")

The same with the Union  of South American Nations(UNASUR), but "slightly" better. This political/economic union of the entirety of South America (including an overarching parliament, military alliance etc and working on a single currency), seems to have been mentioned exactly once in nytimes.

One relevant detail, is that Venezuela was a key player in setting up these (and other regional alliances), which, if the American public were to become aware of, would undermine the rhetoric about Venezuela being politically isolated in South America (in fact, that's projection/propaganda, as it is US allies such as Colombia and the coup leaders in Honduras who are politically isolated).

basically, if they can't keep you informed on actually important affairs in your hemisphere, they're nothing but a rag (if a slightly more liberal rag than NY post). Googling "bbc celac" or "bbc unasur" gives plenty of relevant hits, for comparison. Fuck american media, watch the BBC, they actually give better news about what's happening in America's backyard. BBC aren't perfect but they're a darn sight less blinkered than any American press (except many PBS / NPR)

[SalmonGod]

I hadn't even heard about any of that stuff.  All I've been hearing for the past couple years out of South America is how U.S. corporate mining and logging projects keep murdering protesters.

[Owlbread]

Or rather than watching the BBC which is pretty shit, watch Al Jazeera, the BBC, France 24 and something like CNN so you can get the full picture from a variety of sources.

[Sheb]

And RT for the laughs.

[Owlbread]

And RT for the laughs.

Indeed, can't forget RT and their shennanigans.