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Virlomi

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Forced Labor
« on: March 01, 2012, 08:48:02 am »

I haven't been able to find a clear cut answer to this question, so:

Is there a way to force a dwarf to only do one sort of labor? IE, only work in a carpenter's workshop, or only farm, etc?
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Re: Forced Labor
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2012, 09:10:37 am »

Yes. In game, using the v-tool, hitting p for preferences, and l for labors allows you to choose which labors are active. An easier way is to just download Dwarf Therapist, an external tool that allows you to edit active labors from a spreadsheet.
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Re: Forced Labor
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2012, 09:39:07 am »

You can also further "specialise" him with burrows and workshop profiles, forcing him to use only specific workshops and specific materials.
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Re: Forced Labor
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2012, 02:28:02 pm »

Selecting dwarves for specific jobs (best and easiest way is DwarfTherapist, like already mentioned) will also allow you to produce higher quality stuff much faster. Most important is to make sure you disable all hauling jobs for them, maybe also stuff like feeding wounded dwarves and prisoners etc. If you have jobs which sometimes have idle times (for me thatīs miners, for example, in times where I donīt expand my fortress) give them secondary jobs so that they will stay busy. I set my miners to do digging and stone detailing, because I donīt dig all the time and after digging out new sections I like to have them smoothed right away. Then later, once they have good skills, have them engrave living quarters or whatever.
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Re: Forced Labor
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2012, 02:31:04 pm »

I think I was just about to ask that! I like having things uniform in a room. IE, a dining room with all shale tables and thrones! But my mason makes a mix of shale, cinnabar, and other stuff!

So to specialize a workshop to make only Shale items, how do I go about it exactly?
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Re: Forced Labor
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2012, 02:51:39 pm »

I think I was just about to ask that! I like having things uniform in a room. IE, a dining room with all shale tables and thrones! But my mason makes a mix of shale, cinnabar, and other stuff!

So to specialize a workshop to make only Shale items, how do I go about it exactly?

From the workshop UI you donīt really have those options. You can appoint a manager then you can give relatively specific orders (at least when it comes to non-rock stuff) via the (j)ob - (m)anager - (q) new order   thingy.

If you want to have items crafted from specific rocks you need at least stockpiles for those rocks right next to the workshop. Since crafters select the nearest resources this does the trick most of the time. If you are pedantic about it use burrows.
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Re: Forced Labor
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 04:24:18 pm »

You can forbid all rocks except the ones you want them to use.  Keep in mind this will not auto-forbid new stone from mining/trade and will prevent dwarves from moving them when you dump them or try to build things on top of them.  IIRC, the latest version also lets you forbid the use of non-economic stone in the z-status menus under stones. 
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Re: Forced Labor
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2012, 04:32:09 pm »

To guarantee only one rock type being used, you could burrow your Dwarf onto his workshop, and have the burrow encompass the selected raw materials stockpile. Pretty easy :P

So what you'll want to do is have the mason's workshop covered by a burrow, a shale boulder stockpile covered by the burrow and the workshop set to only allow the burrowed Dwarf to work on it.

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Re: Forced Labor
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2012, 05:45:49 pm »

Put a 3x3 stone stockpile next to the workshop. press "q" and hove the cursor over the stockpile and press "s" to change its settings.  move over to the stone list and press "b" to block all stones, then go to list and press "enter" on the specific stone(s) you want allowed.
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Re: Forced Labor
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2012, 06:51:38 pm »

Also, be aware that 'carpentry' includes working in a carpenter's workshop and building wooden structures (walls, stairs, ramps etc.). The same goes for masonry (except with mason's workshops and stone structures).
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Re: Forced Labor
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2012, 08:27:30 pm »

If all else fails you can always lock them in a room with only the equipment for that specific task.
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Re: Forced Labor
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2012, 10:57:13 am »

Thank you everyone for the help! I've since flooded the fortress I was working on and now have a new one going up.

Now a new problem has reared its head! I have 2-4 idlers at any given time. I also have a mason and carpenter in my temporary top level of what will be my fortress, along with two 10x10 stockpiles specifically for stone (Quartzite this time!). I've changed the settings for both stockpiles to accept only Quartzite stone. I also have a nearby wood pile that has Quartzite in it (blocking wood from being moved to it properly). However, no one is hauling to my two stone stockpiles! Everyone is currently enabled to haul stone.
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Tharwen

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Re: Forced Labor
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2012, 11:47:04 am »

Do you have any burrows? Check no-one's limited to the wrong area.

Also make sure there are no locked doors in the way and that they're actually idle, not just 'On Break'.
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Re: Forced Labor
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2012, 02:26:08 pm »

Do you have any burrows? Check no-one's limited to the wrong area.

Also make sure there are no locked doors in the way and that they're actually idle, not just 'On Break'.

5 are currently 'No Job' and just milling around, not sleeping or drinking or moving refuse. They should be available to haul the stone to the stockpile.

Edit: I created another stockpile just for stone to test them out. Not changing any settings on the stockpile, they began hauling stone to it. So maybe I'm doing something wrong with setting a certain stone to be the only type in the stockpile?

I make the stockpile, q to Set Building Tasks/Prefs, s to Change Settings, scroll down to Stone, b to Block All, scroll down to Other Stone in the second column, and then scroll down to find the stone I want (Quartzite) in the third column and enter to toggle it on.

This should allow only Quartzite in, yes?
« Last Edit: March 02, 2012, 02:32:34 pm by Virlomi »
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Re: Forced Labor
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2012, 01:29:23 pm »

Still not moving stones into a stockpile that is made for a single, particular type of stone. =(
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