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Consider this: Gregor and Derick have a duel with same quality weapons (Iron, for example) and in neutral conditions (no terrain, supports and so on). On whom you would bet?

Derick the Swordmaster of Doom
Gregor the Tanky Stab-Sentinel

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Author Topic: Fire Emblem on Forums (FEF), OOC Thread: FEF1 has been Finished!  (Read 846530 times)

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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums (FEF), OOC Thread: Final Chapter begins!
« Reply #15585 on: December 08, 2013, 05:12:30 pm »

WE'RE INDOORS. LAST I CHECKED YOU CANNOT FLY THROUGH WALLS

The only benefit of bringing Tenebra was increased movement for Ami and greater rescuing ability for Ami.

And with Alex and Anja staying behind, there was no reason not to.
I know that. I was responding to ffs' suggestion about gargoyles :P

And I was backing you up. Now everyone is on the same page.

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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums (FEF), OOC Thread: Final Chapter begins!
« Reply #15586 on: December 08, 2013, 06:02:17 pm »

Gargoyle is a flier, yes.

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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums (FEF), OOC Thread: Final Chapter begins!
« Reply #15587 on: December 08, 2013, 06:03:06 pm »

WE'RE INDOORS. LAST I CHECKED YOU CANNOT FLY THROUGH WALLS

Haspen's confirmation seems to deny that. Plus, we can throw javelins and fire giant ballistae through walls.

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« Reply #15588 on: December 08, 2013, 06:04:19 pm »

WE'RE INDOORS. LAST I CHECKED YOU CANNOT FLY THROUGH WALLS

Haspen's confirmation seems to deny that. Plus, we can throw javelins and fire giant ballistae through walls.

I went skimming through the OOC a few days ago, and back during our battle in Fezzan, Haspen pointed out Seyena could fly over the walls there because they had no ceiling. I seriously doubt Prixima's top floor is open air.

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« Reply #15589 on: December 08, 2013, 06:09:30 pm »

It doesn't change the fact that we were using weapons through solid walls last time we were here. Unless you want to claim there were windows in those places and we simply shot through them, it seems gamey enough.
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« Reply #15590 on: December 08, 2013, 06:11:39 pm »

All I know is, weapons and magic ignore walls, and fliers only ignore walls if they can go over them.

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« Reply #15591 on: December 08, 2013, 06:14:01 pm »

Still, Irony doesn't have much better to do this turn, so it's worth a shot.
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« Reply #15592 on: December 08, 2013, 06:14:55 pm »

Still, Irony doesn't have much better to do this turn, so it's worth a shot.

Oh, I'm not saying Irony shouldn't bother summoning a thrall. No sense in not doing that ASAP.

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« Reply #15593 on: December 08, 2013, 06:27:49 pm »

I dunno, this feels a little... halfhearted, I guess? Like we're just throwing something at the other something instead of actually doing something.

I cannot think of what that something would be, though, so I guess we're going with "why not?"
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« Reply #15594 on: December 08, 2013, 06:33:04 pm »

Well, we are doing something: minmaxing. Maximizing rekage output while minimizing rekage input. Fire emblem is a very abstract DPS war.
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« Reply #15596 on: December 08, 2013, 06:37:42 pm »

Well, we are doing something: minmaxing. Maximizing rekage output while minimizing rekage input. Fire emblem is a very abstract DPS war.

In essence this. Summoned, replaceable thrall are expendable. PCs are not. Every point of damage done to them isn't taken by a PC, and they even get to deal damage of their own. The fact that summoners can replace them while only sacrificing a turn's action is very powerful.

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« Reply #15597 on: December 08, 2013, 06:42:01 pm »

Irony, shouldn't you specify the gargoyle's exact movement?
Am I able to? The class says it's an "ally," which I assumed meant an allied unit that's colored green and moves after our turns and so on.

Plus, I don't know where I'm summoning it to begin with. There's no range listed, so I guess it pops up adjacent to me?

EDIT: Also I don't know what it's MOV is. ಠ_ಠ


Well, we are doing something: minmaxing. Maximizing rekage output while minimizing rekage input. Fire emblem is a very abstract DPS war.

In essence this. Summoned, replaceable thrall are expendable. PCs are not. Every point of damage done to them isn't taken by a PC, and they even get to deal damage of their own. The fact that summoners can replace them while only sacrificing a turn's action is very powerful.
I get that, but if they don't manage to kill a druid in a timely manner, they'll essentially have been wasted, since they could have been soaking up and poking more immediate threats.

...wait. They'd have to unequip Hell to counterattack, which means they're either not halving our HP at bad times or my gargoyle is standing there beating them like a sack of flour.

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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums (FEF), OOC Thread: Final Chapter begins!
« Reply #15598 on: December 08, 2013, 06:43:40 pm »

Did anyone imply that we shouldn't be abusing Riven's summons to their full extent? Of course we should be using them, to soak up some damage if nothing else because I doubt they have the stats to do more than be a minor annoyance damage-wise.
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« Reply #15599 on: December 08, 2013, 06:46:18 pm »

I doubt they have the stats to do more than be a minor annoyance damage-wise.

Yeah, this is true. But you get what you pay for.

Edit: I take it you guys are planning to lets the druids soften you up with their Siege, let those break, and then make your grand entrance?
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