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Author Topic: [MODDING] 0.40.x QUESTIONS THREAD  (Read 316820 times)

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Re: [MODDING] 0.40.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #1650 on: December 06, 2014, 12:54:40 pm »

If I wanted to create a giant version of a wolf but call it a dire wolf instead of a giant wolf, what would I have to tweak for that?

You could either use [COPY_TAGS_FROM:WOLF] or simply copy and paste the entire raws in, and change the name and size. There's a body size tag, that's what you'll want to change.
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Re: [MODDING] 0.40.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #1651 on: December 06, 2014, 12:55:18 pm »

Copy the wolf RAWs, change the SIZE to the apporpriate one (x10 of the basic value) and add in [LARGE_PREDATOR] tag for good measure. Also change the name, description and the RAW-name.
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Re: [MODDING] 0.40.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #1652 on: December 06, 2014, 01:39:46 pm »

Since the topic I made didn't get an answer, how do I add pets to specific civilizations?
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Re: [MODDING] 0.40.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #1653 on: December 06, 2014, 02:20:51 pm »

Since the topic I made didn't get an answer, how do I add pets to specific civilizations?

You cannot add creatures to specific civilizations through regular modding. Though I think that there may be a DFHack script that can do that.

The closest you can get with raw modding is influencing the types of pets a civilization may use through tags such as USE_GOOD_ANIMALS or USE_CAVE_ANIMALS.
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« Reply #1654 on: December 06, 2014, 02:43:55 pm »

Crap, that combined with the fact that you apparently can't have multiple creatures in one entity kinda ruins my plans.

Is using castes the only way to have different creatures under the same entity flag?
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« Reply #1655 on: December 06, 2014, 03:08:32 pm »

Crap, that combined with the fact that you apparently can't have multiple creatures in one entity kinda ruins my plans.

Is using castes the only way to have different creatures under the same entity flag?

Unless there's been some changes that I'm unaware of that occurred after I last played, only your entity's main race will do work in Fort Mode. Other sentient races are treated as pets.

In case you didn't know, putting multiple creature lines under a single entity definition will just result in separate civilizations for each creature. It's somewhat unfortunate, since aside from their inhabitants, the civilizations produced are functionally identical.

Castes can be a way to work in multiple creature-types into one creature, though it has some issues, such as the fact that any caste can be born to any other caste.

There was an old DFHack plug-in that allowed multi-racial forts, but I don't know if it has been updated. I think it was called 'friendship', but I can't remember at the moment.
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Re: [MODDING] 0.40.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #1656 on: December 06, 2014, 03:52:41 pm »

There is indeed an "AddPetToCiv" dfhack lua script in Masterwork, although with a couple others for mounts and stuff.  Check it out.  I don't know if it originates in the main DFHack or not, but it's pretty simple as far as scripts go and it's well commented, so it should be possible to adapt it to whatever you're doing.

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« Reply #1657 on: December 06, 2014, 05:17:40 pm »

How strongly do they conflict? Keep in mind how different dwarf and elf ethics are, and yet they're usually more or less at peace with each other. Try pushing the ethics conflicts to the extreme - either UNTHINKABLE or ACCEPTABLE.

If that doesn't work, you could always give some of them SKULKING or BABYSNATCHER, which will put them into the same 'faction' as kobolds and goblins, respectively.

Well, compare, I have three human civs, which have the following ethics:

Spoiler: First Civ (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Second Civ (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Third Civ (click to show/hide)

There's a lot of room for conflict here, but apparently there are only one or two wars in every world I gen. I don't want to add babysnatcher or anything like that, it would be inconsistent with the overall feeling of the civs. Maybe [SKULKING] could fit in some of them, but I'd rather know if there any other way to encourage fighting amongst them. I've added [SKULKING], [ITEM_THIEF] and even [LOCAL_BANDITRY] to the third civ to see what happens.

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Re: [MODDING] 0.40.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #1658 on: December 06, 2014, 05:42:39 pm »

Well, there's plenty of room to add more conflicts (lying, vandalism, trespassing, etc.) if you're so inclined.

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« Reply #1659 on: December 06, 2014, 05:54:59 pm »

You could also push those ethics to the extremes - replace SHUN or MISGUIDED with UNTHINKABLE, change JUSTIFIED_WITH_GOOD_REASON to ACCEPTABLE/REQUIRED, etc. (afaik the only diff between those two is when defining combat ethics - if KILL_ENEMY is REQUIRED they'll be unable to to yield or give quarter, but otherwise they're treated the same when it comes to wars)

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Re: [MODDING] 0.40.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #1660 on: December 07, 2014, 01:29:22 am »

Are metal skeleton people viable? I'm trying to make Terminators in 34.11
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Re: [MODDING] 0.40.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #1661 on: December 07, 2014, 01:39:57 am »

Yes, definitely, replace BONE with a metal, why 0.34.11?

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« Reply #1662 on: December 07, 2014, 01:57:23 am »

Thanks, and 34.11 is because I like it more. Is there a fix for how breakable creatures made of a inorganic tend to be?
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Re: [MODDING] 0.40.x QUESTIONS THREAD
« Reply #1664 on: December 07, 2014, 01:44:27 pm »

Is there a way to get a creature to throw boulders? Like a fireball, but boulder tossing instead?
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