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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18480 on: May 26, 2016, 08:24:50 pm »

Not with proper application of a contract and careful abuse of arbitration clauses.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18481 on: May 26, 2016, 08:27:04 pm »

Maybe, maybe not. Near as I can recall, some sorts of reward program type things do have legal protections, some don't. Got no clue if there's actually laws on the books about discriminatory confiscation patterns, but I'd be kinda' surprised if there were.* Th'barrista'd probably get hit with something if it went to court, but it might not have anything to do with the confiscations.

*Getting companies let the law have any jurisdiction over that sort of thing has historically been a complete goddamn nightmare, and continues to very much be so, so far as I'm aware. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a few lawyers out there that were actually killed for trying :-\
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18482 on: May 26, 2016, 08:48:46 pm »

Gonna go reductio ad absurdum now?

Yes?  It's a perfectly valid form of argument if your thesis is that a definition is ambiguous.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18483 on: May 26, 2016, 08:56:18 pm »

Gonna go reductio ad absurdum now?
ambiguous.

Maybe if you're a robot.

And I'd argue, if Starbucks was taking loyalty cards away from black customers, while that might be racist as hell it wouldn't change their lives.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18484 on: May 26, 2016, 09:10:33 pm »

... what did any of that have to do with whether it changed folks' lives? Though... not really just if you're a robot. The definition of court that's been being used has been squiggly as all hell quite often in the last few pages.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18485 on: May 26, 2016, 10:11:02 pm »

Maybe if you're a robot.

And I'd argue, if Starbucks was taking loyalty cards away from black customers, while that might be racist as hell it wouldn't change their lives.

Um okay but it has nothing to do with my argument.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18487 on: May 26, 2016, 11:05:58 pm »

Damnit all, red alert was right. Those blighters are holding out on time travel technology on us! Where the hell are you hiding my cybernetic attack bears, you damned senators?!
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18488 on: May 26, 2016, 11:08:38 pm »

Just going to toss this in here.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18489 on: May 26, 2016, 11:26:36 pm »

If Bernie supporters splinter the democratic vote, the democratic system has failed because it's resulted in a poor representation of people's goals. If Bernie supporters fall in line behind Hillary, then the democratic system has failed because there is no incentive for her to actually represent the interests of her voters.

And can we consider that, quite apart from any manufactured crises, how damned oligarchic it is that two families will have controlled four out of the past five presidencies? That is not a healthy political system. That is, anywhere else, a democracy in terminal decline to despotism.
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« Reply #18490 on: May 26, 2016, 11:35:56 pm »

Of course it's democratic.  Clinton is only winning the primary because she won over swing voters.  To do that she had to go more progressive on some issues.

Yeah she could abandon all of that the second she's in office, but that's true of every single election.  Sanders had a progressive, positive influence on this election without winning.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18491 on: May 26, 2016, 11:51:51 pm »

All Presidents except Martin van Buren (even Barack Obama) have a common ancestor in King John Plantagenet of England. Revolution when?

Seriously though, one does wonder. You don't have to go too far back to find Presidents who've been succeeded by their cousins, or the case of FDR who was related to 11 other presidents by blood or marriage.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18492 on: May 27, 2016, 12:04:27 am »

Illuminati confirmed.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #18494 on: May 27, 2016, 12:15:51 am »

Clinton is only winning the primary because she won over swing voters.
How are you defining "swing voters"? ???

In the Gallup poll, Sanders had a 35 percent favorable rating among independents who don’t lean toward either party. Clinton’s favorable rating with that group was 34 percent. Trump’s was a ridiculously low 16 percent.
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