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I am religious and believe in free will

70 (27.6%)

I am religious and do not believe in free will

10 (3.9%)

I am not religious and believe in free will

113 (44.5%)

I am not religious and do not believe in free will

61 (24%)

Total Members Voted: 249

[TD1]

So if I say ceremonious words to my dog, then I become "one flesh" with it?

[Rolan7]

Wait...

God is composed of three elements, each of which is God.

Holy shit, God is fractal.

That's how they are omnipresent - it's God(s) all the way down!

[TempAcc]

So if I say ceremonious words to my dog, then I become "one flesh" with it?

Marriage in the church/bible isn't limited to the ritual, the ritual is just a small part of it. So, unless you're doing some stuff to your dog you really shouldn't be doing, then you aren't "one flesh" with it :v

No details pls.

[Sheb]

Yeah, the Trinity is weird. It's like the doctrine of transubstantiation, it's better not to think too much about it.

[Arx]

So if I say ceremonious words to my dog, then I become "one flesh" with it?

No. You cannot ordain a marriage. No man can.

[TD1]

So if I say ceremonious words to my dog, then I become "one flesh" with it?

Marriage in the church/bible isn't limited to the ritual, the ritual is just a small part of it. So, unless you're doing some stuff to your dog you really shouldn't be doing, then you aren't "one flesh" with it :v

No details pls.

So you define "one flesh" as sexual interaction, combined with marriage?

I can have sex with anyone, and marry them, and suddenly we're "one flesh?"

Were we one flesh, there would be some observable difference. Say one died in India, the other in America would know because a part of them just died. Instead, couples who are married frequently have arguments, get cabin fever, can be disillusioned, etc. Saying they're "one flesh" is romantic nonsense mixed with religion.

So if I say ceremonious words to my dog, then I become "one flesh" with it?

No. You cannot ordain a marriage. No man can.

Priests have a good stab at it, heh.
I assume you mean a spiritual, godly marriage? The most spiritual marriage still has many associated problems that one would see if they weren't "one flesh."

[origamiscienceguy]

Also, it is also possible that we as humans living on earth just cannot comprehend God?

[Arx]

Also, it is also possible that we as humans living on earth just cannot comprehend God.

Going by Biblical literalism, it's significantly more than possible. It's pretty much a definite.

[origamiscienceguy]

That was a rhetorical question, but whatever.

[TD1]

Actually, it was a rhetorical statement, but whatever

[origamiscienceguy]

Actually, it was a rhetorical statement, but whatever

With the power of post-editing, it is now a rhetorical question, but whatever.

 

[TempAcc]

So if I say ceremonious words to my dog, then I become "one flesh" with it?

Marriage in the church/bible isn't limited to the ritual, the ritual is just a small part of it. So, unless you're doing some stuff to your dog you really shouldn't be doing, then you aren't "one flesh" with it :v

No details pls.

So you define "one flesh" as sexual interaction, combined with marriage?

I can have sex with anyone, and marry them, and suddenly we're "one flesh?"

Were we one flesh, there would be some observable difference. Say one died in India, the other in America would know because a part of them just died. Instead, couples who are married frequently have arguments, get cabin fever, can be disillusioned, etc. Saying they're "one flesh" is romantic nonsense mixed with religion.

Not just sex either. Marriage is defined as a communion between a man and a woman in God's presence, and one of the pillars between human interaction with God. Think of it as kind of a "mini covenant", in which the involved agree to follow God's will, rules and to love eachother unconditionally. The ritual, sex and other things are just small parts of it.

And ye, God being inherently incomprehensible to humans is a maxim of many religions, including Christianity, Hermeticism, Hinduism (in relation to Vishnu and I guess Krishna, I think) and many others. And not just humans in some cases, spiritism for example actualy says that practically nobody, not even the most developed spirits can truly understand just what God is its fullness.

[TD1]

to love eachother unconditionally

A pipe dream. Doesn't exist - the entire premise upon which the "oneness" of married couples is based doesn't hold up in reality. It's a nice, touching thing, but there's no such thing as unconditional love. Your wife turns out to be a serial rapist? You're not going to love them for long.

But siblings and family members have unconditional love, some may argue. Not so - as I can attest, those are again ideal views which can be seen to be true, until something happens and suddenly the rules are changed. Unconditional love is only unconditional for as long as it takes something that makes it conditional to happen.

[TempAcc]

to love eachother unconditionally

A pipe dream. Doesn't exist [...] as I can attest

The scope of the entirety of the world's fraternal and matrimonial relationships kinda goes beyond your personal experience and observation capacity :v

I think assuming something does not exist because you have not observed it is kinda silly.

[TD1]

My brother is a bastard and I can attest that I don't love him.

That work, heh? 

Edit: I think that may be the only time I've sworn properly on Bay12, bar one other time which I cleansed. It's quoted below, though, so yay I guess.