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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #630 on: July 15, 2016, 04:10:56 pm »
Let's hope the Grey Wolves haven't secretly gone from radical nationalists to radical islamists in the meantime. That would be appropriate, given how things have been.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #631 on: July 15, 2016, 04:19:04 pm »
Hooooly shit. I honestly didn't expect this.

Watching Euronews right now - they claim martial law has been declared, and state TV along with Erdogan's party HQ were taken over by the military.
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« Reply #632 on: July 15, 2016, 04:28:54 pm »
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754062224331800576

Presumably the military is fighting the police there. Thats pretty heavy gunfire.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #633 on: July 15, 2016, 04:30:40 pm »
Quote from: Ukrainian Ranger on July 15, 2016, 03:57:05 pm
I wonder what was the last straw for some Turkish general(s)? Maybe that pathetic apologizes for shooting down Russian children killer?
A few weeks ago a prominent Turkish journalist / former military officer wrote a letter to various international newspapers with an opinion piece which you could call a 'call to arms'. He warned the Turks that Erdogan was arabizing Turkey, and called him out for not being Turkish. (Erdogan has a Georgian father and an arab mother, he has no Turkish blood). He said that islamists like Erdogan are an enemy of Turkish people.

http://www.volkskrant.nl/opinie/erdogan-wil-turkije-koste-wat-kost-arabiseren~a4333917/
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« Reply #634 on: July 15, 2016, 04:36:09 pm »
Heres Erdogan giving an announcement on TV... Via facetime!

https://twitter.com/CeylanWrites/status/754065030929317889/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #635 on: July 15, 2016, 04:36:55 pm »
The tl;dr is that this has all happened before, and could happen again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Turkey#Military_involvement_in_politics

The Military is considered defenders of the constitution/democaracy/secularisim/Kemalism

Edrogan fucked up by subverting this and is getting removed.
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« Reply #636 on: July 15, 2016, 04:37:25 pm »
Quote from: Erkki on July 15, 2016, 04:36:09 pm
Heres Erdogan giving an announcement on TV... Via facetime!

https://twitter.com/CeylanWrites/status/754065030929317889/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

You know a coup has been succesful when a glorious leader has to resort to facetime.
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« Reply #637 on: July 15, 2016, 04:39:29 pm »
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« Reply #638 on: July 15, 2016, 04:41:12 pm »
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/754061665797345280

And so it begins: Erdogan's Islamists starting to riot against the military. next step: fully armed insurgency.
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« Reply #639 on: July 15, 2016, 04:41:36 pm »
Yeah, but Erdogan had done a lot to curb the army, including arresting a lots of generals a few years back.

I hope this doesn't end up as one more civil war.

Erdogan is calling on "people to assemble in public in square.".
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« Reply #640 on: July 15, 2016, 04:44:02 pm »
I dont believe much more than the top ranks, within the military, are with Erdogan. Its over.
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« Reply #641 on: July 15, 2016, 04:52:56 pm »
Could still turn ugly if Erdogan's supporter start some kind of guerilla.
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« Reply #642 on: July 15, 2016, 04:55:58 pm »
It will definitely turn ugly. seriously guys, where all this faith in a middle eastern country suddenly coming from? the Muslim Brotherhood will not sit on its asses and peacefully accept that their President got couped out just like it doesn't sit on its asses in Egypt.
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« Reply #643 on: July 15, 2016, 04:56:22 pm »
https://www.periscope.tv/fatihtezcan/1MYxNzbpwjVxw(was a live stream of his supporters standing on a military tank) His supporters are already coming out to the streets as he asked. Things could get ugly.
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« Reply #644 on: July 15, 2016, 04:58:25 pm »
Quote from: Vilanat on July 15, 2016, 04:55:58 pm
Where all this faith in a middle eastern country suddenly coming from?

Because this is a middle eastern country that has been ideologically secular and constitutional since the early 1920s.
Plus, Turkey has pretty strict gun laws. Civilians are not allowed to own semi automatic or automatic weapons. So it's not like the other middle eastern countries, were ever civilian can haz AK47 and become an armed insurgent.
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