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Author Topic: You are an Independent Scientist! (Nov 12, 2016)  (Read 35524 times)

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Re: You are an Independent Scientist! (Nov 11, 2016)
« Reply #420 on: June 04, 2017, 08:32:00 pm »

November 11, 2016

Today is a day of great activity for you as you rush from place to place in an attempt to put your genius ideas in action.

The first step is research. After giving your usual greeting to the librarian, you attempt to find information on military vaults via books and the internet even though your terminal has an internet browser. The search here is actually extremely fruitful. Thanks to your very clever searching techniques and even some use of more shady internet back-channels, you find a great deal of information regarding the military vault in question.

Near the outskirts of the city is the military base. It's not much of a base, really - more so an "outpost". In addition to the standard buildings and rooms like the barracks, mess hall, garage, and whatnot, there's an underground vault. This vault is accessed through a bulky and secure door through a staircase from inside the armory. The armory is its own building, with one main outside entrance then a more secure entrance into the room storing more valuable goods. Outside, two men guard the armory. Inside, there should be roughly three permanent staff - two attendants and one guard. Ignoring the people, the next obstacle is the secure door. It can be opened via a keycard or a passcode (or more subversive means). Opening this door would let one go through the secure storage room and down the staircase, where they'd find the vault door.
The vault door is obviously protecting something important. The attendant holds a physical key required to open the door, and activating the vault door via a computer in the secure storage room is required for that key to even work. The computer uses a biometric fingerprint scanner that also annoyingly checks for stress and that the fingerprint's owner is alive. Supposedly the upper command of the base also have an override keycode, but the information you can find on this is useless. Once the computer activates the door and the key is inserted, it should open. The vault door is also supposedly made out of a pretty tough metal (no idea what metal in particular) that would make any kind of regular cutting tool take extreme amounts of time to work.
Frankly, it's amazing that all this information is just out there. Sure, it takes a genius like you to find all of it, but still.

You get a note from the stranger "contracting" you. Apparently, they've given it some thought and would be willing to have you accompany them if you feel that'd be of help to the procedures. But you can always just give them equipment to do it themselves.


With your work at the library done, you head to the university looking to upgrade your computer. Though your plan mostly falls apart here because you don't really know how to go about upgrading your computer. It's not like the university just has a grab-bag of free computer parts for authorized individuals to take home. You consider "borrowing" some parts, but you're not certain enough of your plans to do that.


It's only now that you realize that you actually want to go back to the library. After a lengthy walk back filled with annoyance at improper day planning, you arrive back at the library where you begin to start the most important task of today. Research into small motors and artificial muscles.
Countless hours pass by as you pour your attention into various books and the library computers. The librarian continues to (unnecessarily, of course) worry about your mental health as you surround yourself with books and multiple library computers rearranged to kind of look like an actual competent workstation.

Eventually you emerge from your studying daze with loads of new knowledge. It turns out that tiny motors are actually really easy for someone (of your mental caliber) to accomplish, and artificial muscles are extremely possible! It's hard for you to get into the details, but the process to make a ~2 cm motor from scratch is surprisingly easy, and that wasn't even what you really focused on today. Artificial muscles are a fascinating science and you think you have a very deep insight into how they work. Of course, there are many individual methods for creating them and you'd have to choose your own if you were to go that route, but whatever you do, it shouldn't be too hard.


You had some other things planned for today, but you ended up spending most of your time on research.

You harvested 1 ml of venom today, turned it into lasting venom, then sold it for $30.
Your Miner Virus net $2 today.

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Re: You are an Independent Scientist! (Nov 11, 2016)
« Reply #421 on: June 05, 2017, 01:36:30 am »

Hrmm, so I guess we need to build a roboscorpion out of nonmetallic parts...

There are various nonmetallic conductors to use as wiring. Power-source is the big problem. Of course, scorpions have some metallic composition, so it is not as though they need to be completely metal-free, just enough that they don't show up on a metal-detector...
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Re: You are an Independent Scientist! (Nov 11, 2016)
« Reply #422 on: June 05, 2017, 07:31:56 am »

Get this. We can use Monomer Cabling/ Supramolecular Polymers to make our muscles.

Why might you ask? What would it give an advantage over conventional actuators/motors?

It's low voltage requirement. That means we could perhaps use conventional AA Batteries to power these guys, or maybe even some sort of bizarre wireless electrical system ala Tesla.

They are self healing.  That means that if they get hit by a glancing blow, and they are supplied with some sort of feed they'll fix themselves.

They are Bio compatible. That means they use some complex carbon based chemistry to keep them selves going, similar to proteins and perhaps even DNA, so there is potential to replace our scorpions muscles with these. also they are biodegradable if we cared enough.

They can be made from a couple common resources too if we know what were doing.

Welding Cables contain the monomer required, while we can use some of the stock of Hydrogen and some charcoal for the carbon to make the rest of the materials required for the cables.

Now with the cables, we have a world of options open to us, both big and small

Cybernetic augmentation? Check.
Synthetic muscles for our murder scorpions? Check.
Done on the cheap? Checkity check.
Supersuit? Check.

I'm thinking we make a super suit with this and use it to break the vault open like a candy box.
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Re: You are an Independent Scientist! (Nov 11, 2016)
« Reply #423 on: June 05, 2017, 07:54:24 am »

buy some speed upgrades for our pc.
write a data processing tool to easily track data on the artificial muscles
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Re: You are an Independent Scientist! (Nov 11, 2016)
« Reply #424 on: June 05, 2017, 11:34:41 am »

buy some speed upgrades for our pc.
write a data processing tool to easily track data on the artificial muscles

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Re: You are an Independent Scientist! (Nov 11, 2016)
« Reply #425 on: June 05, 2017, 02:07:27 pm »

buy some speed upgrades for our pc.
write a data processing tool to easily track data on the artificial muscles

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We never had any problems with tracking data on the artificial muscles, just realizing its potential from the data we have.
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Re: You are an Independent Scientist! (Nov 11, 2016)
« Reply #426 on: June 05, 2017, 05:58:34 pm »

buy some speed upgrades for our pc.
write a data processing tool to easily track data on the artificial muscles

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We never had any problems with tracking data on the artificial muscles, just realizing its potential from the data we have.
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Yep, this guy has a point.  Until we're prompted on what wall we're running up against, I wouldn't waste time, effort, and money on this. 

Begin attempting to create a working prototype of  Monomer Cabling/ Supramolecular Polymers

Blood_Librarian, I like the idea, even if I don't entirely understand it.  However, this will be a multiple step process, so don't jump too far ahead.  If it works, we improve upon that.

In other topics, should we continue to expand the capabilities of the virus network?  Harder detection would be a priority.  And, design a switch into the programming to turn it off for a period of time, whenever seems like a problem where suspicion might arise. 
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Re: You are an Independent Scientist! (Nov 11, 2016)
« Reply #427 on: June 05, 2017, 06:30:05 pm »

Do solar panels turn up on a metal detector?
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Re: You are an Independent Scientist! (Nov 11, 2016)
« Reply #428 on: June 05, 2017, 06:40:36 pm »

the aluminum/steel frame frame would.
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Re: You are an Independent Scientist! (Nov 11, 2016)
« Reply #429 on: June 06, 2017, 07:06:15 pm »

Depends on the metal we work with.  Ferrous metals are easiest to detect, followed by nonferrous, followed by stainless steel. 
Here.  We might be able to sneak by, but that's likely dependent on how strong the sensors are, and how much metal is used of the particular quality. 
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Re: You are an Independent Scientist! (Nov 12, 2016)
« Reply #430 on: July 28, 2017, 11:24:47 am »

November 12, 2016

After $200 spent in acquiring numerous materials to experiment with and applying this stuff at the University lab, you believe you're on the right track.

The "Monomer Cabling / Supramolecular Polymers" prototype exists. In a way.
Your problem here was really a lack of a more solidly formed idea. The idea is to use supramolecular polymers to create artificial muscles, and you've worked with this consistently in your mind. Yet anything more than "supramolecular polymers" is ultimately lost during the experimentation. Nevertheless, you return from the lab with success on your shoulders.

The supramolecular polymer you develop in the labs definitely seems to be a very versatile material. It helps that lesser scientists have already done very notable amounts of research into the field, so that the stuff left for you is almost trivial. Trivial to a mind of your stature, of course. The polymer you've made in the lab is a fairly small amount - not enough to be made extensive use of in any realistic application, but more than enough to experiment with or perhaps even use to a limited degree. Self-healing is there, but naturally not particularly precise. You've ensured that the biological applications are present; the polymer can very definitely be used in biomedical areas without furhter effort being spent on the material itself.;


A better name would probably help, too. Because your 1x Supramolecular Polymer has an immensely boring name. Making more is possible and would be a bit cheaper than it cost today, but ultimately you're hand-making it in a lab environment and that isn't exactly economical.


You harvested 1 ml of venom today, turned it into lasting venom, then sold it for $20. Unfortunately, it looks like you're starting to saturate the likely-tiny market for venom.
Your Miner Virus net $2 today.

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Re: You are an Independent Scientist! (Nov 12, 2016)
« Reply #431 on: July 28, 2017, 08:23:18 pm »

Unless someone has a better idea of what to do, continue making the virus harder to detect. 
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Re: You are an Independent Scientist! (Nov 12, 2016)
« Reply #432 on: July 28, 2017, 09:17:12 pm »

Is there a reason we haven't fenced the paintings? If there isn't - Fence the paintings - We could use some more money.
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Re: You are an Independent Scientist! (Nov 12, 2016)
« Reply #433 on: July 29, 2017, 12:41:56 pm »

Is there a reason we haven't fenced the paintings? If there isn't - Fence the paintings - We could use some more money.
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Re: You are an Independent Scientist! (Nov 12, 2016)
« Reply #434 on: July 29, 2017, 01:27:54 pm »

Upgrade the pc and start to experiment with AI
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