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[Shonai_Dweller]

Goblins are already playable in vanilla, that's not a feature of this mod.

[Taffer]

Goblins are already playable in vanilla, that's not a feature of this mod.

Thank you kindly for the correction!

[Vherid]

This looks pretty neat, gonna have to try this out

[Lordsservent-san]

Goblins are already playable in vanilla, that's not a feature of this mod.

Thank you kindly for the correction!

Well, you can't build forts as Goblins in vinilla, but they have everything you need to play as them. All that's missing is the tag that allows you to build sites as that race.

[Shonai_Dweller]

Goblins are already playable in vanilla, that's not a feature of this mod.

Thank you kindly for the correction!

Well, you can't build forts as Goblins in vinilla, but they have everything you need to play as them. All that's missing is the tag that allows you to build sites as that race.

I was pointing out a mistake in the op about adventurer. Fixed now. Great mod by the way!

[Button]

PTW

[Taffer]

I'm not sure how many people are interested in my work here, but I'm at a crossroads in regards to integrating Accelerated. I thought I'd make a little post about my current plans and what I'm not sure about.

So the next version will have simplified creature names. The list of creatures is in the spoiler below. I've also added back (and fixed up) the Modest Mod's MAXAGE changes: giant creatures (and a handful of normal creatures) live longer, making them more convenient (and in some cases, possible) to train and use. I've also fixed up some things, made Hydras lay eggs, and made giant wolverines and giant bobcats trainable again.

I'm also thinking of adding in Grimlocke's collarbones, letting me have all armor protect necks. Perhaps I can look into adding SHAPED to most armor, preventing the kind of armor layering silliness I see on the wiki and in some guides.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

bark scorpion => scorpion
black mamba => mamba
blue peafowl => peafowl
bluefin tuna => tuna
brown recluse spider => recluse spider
common skate => skate
conger eel => eel
giant grouper => grouper
great barracuda => barracuda
great horned owl => horned howl
great white shark => white shark
green devourer => devourer (and the letter changed from 'G' to 'D')
green tree frog => tree frog
grey parrot => parrot
hoary marmot => marmot
king cobra => cobra (and the letter changed from 'k' to 's')
monarch butterfly => butterfly
peach-faced lovebird => lovebird
peregrine falcon => falcon (and the letter changed from 'p' to 'f')
red-winged blackbird => blackbird
rhesus macaque => macaque
saltwater crocodile => crocodile
sea lamprey => lamprey
voracious cave crawler => cave crawler
water buffalo => buffalo
white stork => stork

I can't in good conscious pretend this is a "minimal mod compilation" anymore, so such references have been purged from the descriptions.

I'm tempted to change my mind about the "Accelerated" module: I'm considering integrating it completely, standardizing materials and adding in Wanderer's tiered leather. As mentioned, reverting this last time was painful: returning to a "non-standardized" materials version of this mod would be even more painful, and I'm not interested in maintaining two branches. I'd miss some of the variety, but having leather tiers might be worth it and shorter lists to scroll through might be worth it.

  • I integrated, tested, and improved Wanderer's tiered and standardized leather and standardized wool. Reverting it again was painful.

[Ziusudra]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

bark scorpion => scorpion
black mamba => mamba
blue peafowl => peafowl
bluefin tuna => tuna
brown recluse spider => recluse spider
common skate => skate
conger eel => eel
giant grouper => grouper
great barracuda => barracuda
great horned owl => horned howl
great white shark => white shark
green devourer => devourer (and the letter changed from 'G' to 'D')
green tree frog => tree frog
grey parrot => parrot
hoary marmot => marmot
king cobra => cobra (and the letter changed from 'k' to 's')
monarch butterfly => butterfly
peach-faced lovebird => lovebird
peregrine falcon => falcon (and the letter changed from 'p' to 'f')
red-winged blackbird => blackbird
rhesus macaque => macaque
saltwater crocodile => crocodile
sea lamprey => lamprey
voracious cave crawler => cave crawler
water buffalo => buffalo
white stork => stork

Some of these names aren't just to differentiate from other creature types but to put the image of a real world creature into the mind of the player. So, maybe put a "also known as" in the description or something.

Also, spotted wobbegong => wobbegong

Edit:
two-legged rhino lizard => rhino lizard
white-spotted puffer => puffer
sea nettle jellyfish => sea nettle OR jellyfish
banded knifefish => knifefish
sailfin molly => sailfin OR molly

Maybe:
common snapping turtle => snapping turtle
alligator snapping turtle => alligator turtle

[Taffer]

Some of these names aren't just to differentiate from other creature types but to put the image of a real world creature into the mind of the player. So, maybe put a "also known as" in the description or something.

I definitely like that idea. Thank you! Looks like I'll have to finish up my description rewrite and add in the "also known as" mentions before the next release.

Also, spotted wobbegong => wobbegong

Edit:
two-legged rhino lizard => rhino lizard
white-spotted puffer => puffer
sea nettle jellyfish => sea nettle OR jellyfish
banded knifefish => knifefish
sailfin molly => sailfin OR molly

Maybe:
common snapping turtle => snapping turtle
alligator snapping turtle => alligator turtle

Great ideas, all of them. Thank you!

[KillzEmAllGod]

What's required to get this to work with Grimlocke's mod?

Love both mods, shame I didn't notice this untill today was using modest wanderer.

[Grimlocke]

Merging changes in about 6 files. Working on that, though you might be able to just throw my mod on top of Revision, add Revision's reaction entity tags and get most features of both mods.

I have rendered my own post redundant by finishing up the Revision compatibility patch! Its included in the main download.

@Taffer Those comments added to vanilla file modifications were pretty helpful, saved me from having to use a diff program. For the creature_standard file, I have replaced all the locally defined attacks with references to the identical creature variation entries. Makes balancing them a lot less tedious.

[KillzEmAllGod]

I'm not sure how many people are interested in my work here, but I'm at a crossroads in regards to integrating Accelerated. I thought I'd make a little post about my current plans and what I'm not sure about.

So the next version will have simplified creature names. The list of creatures is in the spoiler below. I've also added back (and fixed up) the Modest Mod's MAXAGE changes: giant creatures (and a handful of normal creatures) live longer, making them more convenient (and in some cases, possible) to train and use. I've also fixed up some things, made Hydras lay eggs, and made giant wolverines and giant bobcats trainable again.

I'm also thinking of adding in Grimlocke's collarbones, letting me have all armor protect necks. Perhaps I can look into adding SHAPED to most armor, preventing the kind of armor layering silliness I see on the wiki and in some guides.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

bark scorpion => scorpion
black mamba => mamba
blue peafowl => peafowl
bluefin tuna => tuna
brown recluse spider => recluse spider
common skate => skate
conger eel => eel
giant grouper => grouper
great barracuda => barracuda
great horned owl => horned howl
great white shark => white shark
green devourer => devourer (and the letter changed from 'G' to 'D')
green tree frog => tree frog
grey parrot => parrot
hoary marmot => marmot
king cobra => cobra (and the letter changed from 'k' to 's')
monarch butterfly => butterfly
peach-faced lovebird => lovebird
peregrine falcon => falcon (and the letter changed from 'p' to 'f')
red-winged blackbird => blackbird
rhesus macaque => macaque
saltwater crocodile => crocodile
sea lamprey => lamprey
voracious cave crawler => cave crawler
water buffalo => buffalo
white stork => stork

I can't in good conscious pretend this is a "minimal mod compilation" anymore, so such references have been purged from the descriptions.

I'm tempted to change my mind about the "Accelerated" module: I'm considering integrating it completely, standardizing materials and adding in Wanderer's tiered leather. As mentioned, reverting this last time was painful: returning to a "non-standardized" materials version of this mod would be even more painful, and I'm not interested in maintaining two branches. I'd miss some of the variety, but having leather tiers might be worth it and shorter lists to scroll through might be worth it.

  • I integrated, tested, and improved Wanderer's tiered and standardized leather and standardized wool. Reverting it again was painful.

I'm fine with that as long as there special ones can still be made like featherwood, dragon leather etc. I liked the leather change in modest mode made it worthwhile for larger creatures though you removed it because it was a pain to do and a bit imbalanced would like that returned in the case of elephants and dragons creatures of that size if it's not too much.

The armor one is a good idea and rather simple to do.

[Taffer]

Merging changes in about 6 files. Working on that, though you might be able to just throw my mod on top of Revision, add Revision's reaction entity tags and get most features of both mods.

I have rendered my own post redundant by finishing up the Revision compatibility patch! Its included in the main download.

@Taffer Those comments added to vanilla file modifications were pretty helpful, saved me from having to use a diff program. For the creature_standard file, I have replaced all the locally defined attacks with references to the identical creature variation entries. Makes balancing them a lot less tedious.

Thanks! I'll have to test things. I'm not sure how Microreduce's faster ore reaction fits into your Metallurgy component. I still need to look into re-balancing vanilla by borrowing some of your values, but that's a pretty hard task to get right and I don't have the time to test it at the moment. I still haven't properly tested the new elven weapons.

I'm fine with that as long as there special ones can still be made like featherwood, dragon leather etc. I liked the leather change in modest mode made it worthwhile for larger creatures though you removed it because it was a pain to do and a bit imbalanced would like that returned in the case of elephants and dragons creatures of that size if it's not too much.

The armor one is a good idea and rather simple to do.

Thank you kindly for the feedback. It's worth noting that an Accelerated integration would include DF Wanderer's "tiered leather", which does a much better job of making leather interesting. Dragons and mermaids would be fun to harvest not just because they "give more leather", but because the leather they give (dragonscale) would be much stronger than pig leather. Harvesting mermaids would be worthwhile again!

[Grimlocke]

The micro-reduce steel reaction ended up not fitting in at all, I updated my mod to remove it 

Personally, I wouldn't mind having a lot less silly leather types. 'Tiered' leather is... not entirely realistic, but frankly neither is the current system and the tiers a lot better for gameplay.

[KillzEmAllGod]

With the Tiered system how much would beasts like elephants, hydras and dragons give more in leather?
How many tiers are there and does it have quality and quantity?

What else will Accelerated remove in terms of redundant excess will gems, ores and fat?

Are there plans to change how growing works for above ground and below ground crops?

Would be good if tiered system did both of that knowing that you could hunt some small but valuable for good quality leather.

I wouldn't mind gems being brought down to a tier system as well, as for metals limonite is an iron ore that could be removed though not sure what this would have an effect on in world generation of resources.

The whole lack of seasons while underground doesn't make too much sense for why they're grown like that, though I'm not sure if you want to go that far to change it but if you do it would be worthwhile making the above ground crops have a season while changing below ground to grow slower but can be all year. Though plump helmets and dimple cups should be largely unchanged.