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Author Topic: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"  (Read 218683 times)

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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #1170 on: October 19, 2020, 03:17:41 pm »

Had a musing about video game technology, but moved it to here
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #1171 on: October 20, 2020, 04:32:54 am »

I take vitamins, mostly gummy ones just because I don't have the willpower to go out and take them otherwise, and it keeps me remembering to take other daily pills I need to take.  A family friend told me a few years ago that they are terrible for you because they are packed with sugar and that you are better off eating fresh fruit instead.  While I believed them, I continued with gummies, because as I mentioned I forget to take them otherwise.

This morning when taking them before going to bed (yes I go to bed at 6 AM), I had a random thought, 'Isn't fruit packed full of sugar too?  I wonder how much more gummies have over fruit.'. 

So I looked at the nutritional info for my vitamin C gummies. 200 mg of vitamin c, for 6 grams of sugar.  Yea, that seems like a lot for how small the things are.   Then I went to google and checked the nutritional info for oranges.  51 mg of vitamin C for 9 grams of sugar.

So actual fruit has only 25% the vitamin C and has 33% more sugar.  I guess natural isn't always better for you.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #1172 on: October 20, 2020, 05:39:50 am »

Sugar inside unprocessed food such as whole, raw fruit are "better" for you because your body is made to digest those. Eating an apple, for example, will be better for you than eating the same amount of sugars in gummies because the fibres of the fruit will provide you with a filling sensation that you don't get from the candies, and make the sugars slower to digest causing a slower, steadier release of sugar/energy over time so you won't crave more sugar as fast. Whereas with candy you digest it in three seconds, get energy, and then immediately want more candies. This is also why a whole Apple us healthier than the same apple run through a mixer.

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor if stomachtology any more than I am a doctor of chickenology. I am but a humble layman of digestosophy.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #1173 on: November 01, 2020, 04:12:30 am »

I wonder if when people say that low contrast ratio text (say, black text on purple) is said to "vibrate", it literally means that the brain is forced to increase the gain on the vision signal while reading such text so high that ringing artifacts appear. The vibration is the ringing artifacts from the postprocessing.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #1174 on: November 03, 2020, 11:50:16 pm »

I realized that basically every community I'm in has a political culture that is either too far-left for my beliefs (cough this and AmeriPol with their "the system is terrible and should be torn down instead of reformed and also literally communism" last time I checked cough) or too far-right (several Discord servers. Comparatively. I don't mean objectively far-right (as in Nazis), I mean "moderate conservatives").

I'm not even centrist.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #1175 on: November 04, 2020, 09:38:58 am »

I take vitamins, mostly gummy ones just because I don't have the willpower to go out and take them otherwise, and it keeps me remembering to take other daily pills I need to take.  A family friend told me a few years ago that they are terrible for you because they are packed with sugar and that you are better off eating fresh fruit instead.  While I believed them, I continued with gummies, because as I mentioned I forget to take them otherwise.

This morning when taking them before going to bed (yes I go to bed at 6 AM), I had a random thought, 'Isn't fruit packed full of sugar too?  I wonder how much more gummies have over fruit.'. 

So I looked at the nutritional info for my vitamin C gummies. 200 mg of vitamin c, for 6 grams of sugar.  Yea, that seems like a lot for how small the things are.   Then I went to google and checked the nutritional info for oranges.  51 mg of vitamin C for 9 grams of sugar.

So actual fruit has only 25% the vitamin C and has 33% more sugar.  I guess natural isn't always better for you.

Yes, but the fruit probably has the isomer (is that the right word, it's been a few years) of vitamin C that does literally anything for your body. It's just an expensive placebo.


I realized that basically every community I'm in has a political culture that is either too far-left for my beliefs (cough this and AmeriPol with their "the system is terrible and should be torn down instead of reformed and also literally communism" last time I checked cough) or too far-right (several Discord servers. Comparatively. I don't mean objectively far-right (as in Nazis), I mean "moderate conservatives").

I'm not even centrist.

Usually the "tear it all down" types have noticed that only the people in power are able to do any reforms, and they're only in power because the system is broken. There will never be meaningful reforms because of that.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #1176 on: November 04, 2020, 09:42:32 am »

I realized that basically every community I'm in has a political culture that is either too far-left for my beliefs (cough this and AmeriPol with their "the system is terrible and should be torn down instead of reformed and also literally communism" last time I checked cough) or too far-right (several Discord servers. Comparatively. I don't mean objectively far-right (as in Nazis), I mean "moderate conservatives").

I'm not even centrist.

Usually the "tear it all down" types have noticed that only the people in power are able to do any reforms, and they're only in power because the system is broken. There will never be meaningful reforms because of that.
And I disagree. Not everyone in power is Trump or Putin. In any case I really, really don't want to risk a revolution in America. The potential for collateral damage and intervention from China and/or Russia is too large. Sure in a smaller country you can afford to kick up some dust. But in the world's #1 superpower with many enemies? That's pushing your luck too much.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #1177 on: November 04, 2020, 01:13:38 pm »

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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #1178 on: November 04, 2020, 02:01:11 pm »

The conversations about fruit, sugar, and whatever else were much more interesting than politics.
Besides, there are other threads for politics.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #1179 on: November 04, 2020, 02:19:49 pm »

The conversations about fruit, sugar, and whatever else were much more interesting than politics.
Okay.
Yes, but the fruit probably has the isomer (is that the right word, it's been a few years) of vitamin C that does literally anything for your body. It's just an expensive placebo.
This is silly, vitamin manufacturers aren't going to go to the expense of separating a racemate (the only realistic way to get D-ascorbate since it isn't produced biologically) just to sell you only the inactive half: it would be more expensive for them than just using the racemate (mixture of both enantiomers, thus active at half the rate overall) directly! At worst, particularly cheap manufacturers might buy D-ascorbate from less unscrupulous companies that separated a racemate to get L-ascorbate for their own vitamins and would have just thrown the D-ascorbate out (well, likely recycled it as chemical feedstock, but still), but even that's not likely because to my knowledge vitamin C is not prepared as a racemate, but via a biological fermentation route that specifically produces the active enantiomer much as the normal biosynthesis pathway does. As far as I know, D-ascorbate isn't produced in any significant quantity by any industrial method.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #1180 on: November 04, 2020, 09:55:40 pm »

Let p(x) be the mapping mapping "x" to "porn of x".
∀x, ∄p(x): p(x) = ∅
equivalently,
∀x, ∀p(x): p(x) ≠ ∅
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #1181 on: November 04, 2020, 10:01:13 pm »

I.e. rule 34.

Better form is:
∀x P(x)
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #1182 on: November 04, 2020, 10:22:48 pm »

Exactly how I intended it. That means my logic system is working correctly. I wonder what other internet laws can be compressed into the language of predicate calculus.

"p(x):x→porn of x" and "∀x,∄p(x):p(x)=∅" are 16 and 15 characters long (unnecessary spaces removed) respectively, adding up to 31 characters, better than "If it exists, there's porn of it. No exceptions.", 41 characters. It's pretty much a naive translation of the original into predicate calculus with only knowledge of "for all" and "there exists".

Your version "∀x P(x)" is 7 characters long with spaces. Impressive.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #1183 on: November 06, 2020, 04:14:55 am »

Idk where else to put this (this, isn't a "small" question because it's a long story).

So my parents left my younger brother (8 years old) with me for the day. He was mostly quiet and playing, with his toys but I knew, that he would want to play one of those dumb roll and move board games with me soon, as he often does. Now, I know there are better board games that I could introduce him to but I forgot them in my parents' house. And I tried to teach him chess earlier (I'm decent at it, 1700 Lichess) but he wasn't interested. So instead of wasting an hour playing a pure chance-based game with no strategy I decided, to do this.

It works like this: There is a spiral path, divided into "cells" with two spaces marked "start" and "end", player tokens, start at the start and then you roll a die to decide how much you move. There are also special cells but that's, not important to this story. Each player had his own die (important). Since the game (I don't think you all know it, it's, locally produced I think. But it's a generic roll and move) depends on dice... A thought, appeared in my head. I remembered watching a documentary about cheaters in gambling and how people use loaded dice to cheat. So I took the die I wanted him to use (just a d6, I had spares), covered it up with one of those plastic covers for microwaving food, just in case, and microwaved it for a while, the goal being, to make 6 come up more often so he wins easier and, faster. I decided to not "un-load" my own die (cook it so 1 comes up more often) because it wouldn't affect Bortei (said brother's name) chances of winning as much, because, he is likely to win anyways.

Then as I predicted he asked to play the game. I made sure to look enthusiastic and, quietly sweared at myself, for forgetting the actually good and interesting games. I noticed that, the die looked a bit weird (slightly flatter), meaning I overcooked it. Thankfully he didn't notice. And of course, most of the time, he rolled 6s and won easily while I was barely halfway, across the board. He was happy, about winning.

I'm currently calling my parents, if it's OK if I play computer games with him instead.

Was what I did right? Cheating to lose, to make my young brother feel better and not play something that is boring for me for a long time?

EDIT: Clarified some things and fixed a few typos.
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Re: Random thoughts - On the Origins of "I Could Eat A Horse"
« Reply #1184 on: November 06, 2020, 04:21:26 am »

IMO there was nothing wrong with throwing the game like this as long as he had fun and you wouldn't be having fun if you played it normally. Plus you eliminated his chances of losing and if he's anything like I was at that age he would get mad if he lost (50/50 chance).
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