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Author Topic: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (Game Over): Lessons Of Mob Mentality  (Read 93203 times)

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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« Reply #1845 on: January 18, 2022, 06:51:45 am »

Is this what we're doing? Aight I'm in: I'm a Motion Detector. Or maybe I'm not, who knows?
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« Reply #1846 on: January 18, 2022, 08:14:47 am »

I am town, and my role is useful, and I am not claiming.

EuchreJack, please subscribe me to your mailing list. I do not have a private chat and I want one.
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« Reply #1847 on: January 18, 2022, 08:23:24 am »

I am town, and my role is useful, and I am not claiming.

EuchreJack, please subscribe me to your mailing list. I do not have a private chat and I want one.
At least throw a fakeclaim out.

I, on the other hand, will claim my 100% real role as Ninja Fruit Vendor.
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« Reply #1848 on: January 18, 2022, 09:22:46 am »

ToonyMan, you Town? Are you able to read me yet?
Yes. No.

I'm busy at work currently to get anything started, in the meantime I can join the claim gang:

My 100% real role is Inventor, though my goods may be defective...
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« Reply #1849 on: January 18, 2022, 09:51:06 am »

This is going to be one of those weird games. Anyway, I'm a miller.
I believe this claim. My role is useless, I'm an Unreliable Cop.
I believe NJW's claim.

@Roden: What is an Unreliable Cop?

I am a Neighborizer.  I can set up a private chat with other players.  Sorta like unreliable mason I guess?
Unreliable just means my results have a chance to be wrong. Not invalid, just wrong, and I have no way of knowing if my Cop check is accurate. Since my results don't really matter, I figured I would just full claim now since it would look suspicious if I claimed it later.
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« Reply #1850 on: January 18, 2022, 10:04:35 am »

Unreliable just means my results have a chance to be wrong. Not invalid, just wrong, and I have no way of knowing if my Cop check is accurate. Since my results don't really matter, I figured I would just full claim now since it would look suspicious if I claimed it later.
What chance? (I.e. what percentage?)


I am a Neighborizer.  I can set up a private chat with other players.  Sorta like unreliable mason I guess?
Hm. That sounds like a rather weak role. Is this a day or night action?
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« Reply #1851 on: January 18, 2022, 10:33:04 am »

Neighborizer sounds like at least one of them tells the other their alignment.

Anyway, I'm gonna vote Magma Mater.
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« Reply #1852 on: January 18, 2022, 12:54:04 pm »

Have you really never seen a neighbor / neighborizer role webadict? Seems difficult to believe. I feel like you're trying to play dumb with regard to your knowledge of Euchre's role.
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« Reply #1853 on: January 18, 2022, 01:13:11 pm »

Have you really never seen a neighbor / neighborizer role webadict? Seems difficult to believe. I feel like you're trying to play dumb with regard to your knowledge of Euchre's role.
Okay, let's expound on that. What would I gain by playing dumb?
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« Reply #1854 on: January 18, 2022, 01:17:10 pm »

Have you really never seen a neighbor / neighborizer role webadict? Seems difficult to believe. I feel like you're trying to play dumb with regard to your knowledge of Euchre's role.
Okay, let's expound on that. What would I gain by playing dumb?
If Euchre is mafia, or if you somehow know his role already, this is a way to distance yourself from that.
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« Reply #1855 on: January 18, 2022, 01:29:13 pm »

@Max & NJW & Web: Neighborizer is a night action. It does nothing to confirm roles.  Ideally, it would allow me to have confidential communications with someone that is confirmed town.  But I'll probably use it Night 1, so it might just let mafia whisper horrible things into my ears.

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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« Reply #1856 on: January 18, 2022, 01:34:59 pm »

@Jim: What is your opinion on the mass claiming?

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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« Reply #1857 on: January 18, 2022, 03:40:04 pm »

Have you really never seen a neighbor / neighborizer role webadict? Seems difficult to believe. I feel like you're trying to play dumb with regard to your knowledge of Euchre's role.
Okay, let's expound on that. What would I gain by playing dumb?
If Euchre is mafia, or if you somehow know his role already, this is a way to distance yourself from that.
That's a very short-sighted goal if I'm Mafia, and also that would imply that I'd be really bad as Mafia. The better answer is that I can use that as a way to see who's okay with claiming their alignment with someone else, but that only applies if you think I'm Town. So, that's not the worst look for you, but it does make it seem as though you don't care about looking for Town, especially since EuchreJack is more like Town than not.

So, I suppose that begs a question: Am I more like Mafia, or is EuchreJack more likely Mafia?
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« Reply #1858 on: January 18, 2022, 05:05:08 pm »

Honestly this player list is pretty stacked. I feel there's a lot of strong players to watch out for here.


@NJW and Roden:
This is going to be one of those weird games. Anyway, I'm a miller.
This is going to be one of those weird games. Anyway, I'm a miller.
I believe this claim. My role is useless, I'm an Unreliable Cop.
Why would there be a miller if you're an unreliable cop?

I think it's more likely Roden is telling the truth here then NJW unless they're both in on it, although I find Roden believable here. Especially since NJW claimed first and Roden second. I got caught out pretty badly from claiming double voter first in a past game as mafia since I had no idea there would be another claim to "meta counter" it.


@Jack:
I am a Neighborizer.  I can set up a private chat with other players.  Sorta like unreliable mason I guess?
Sounds true.


@Webadict:
Is this what we're doing? Aight I'm in: I'm a Motion Detector. Or maybe I'm not, who knows?
Sounds false.

Anyway, I'm gonna vote Magma Mater.
Why?


@Max and Magma:
I am town, and my role is useful, and I am not claiming.

EuchreJack, please subscribe me to your mailing list. I do not have a private chat and I want one.
At least throw a fakeclaim out.

I, on the other hand, will claim my 100% real role as Ninja Fruit Vendor.
There's certain roles I could see Max not wanting to share, but also there's certain roles I could see Max not wanting to share if that makes sense. Sometimes you want to paint a target on your back at night...a fakeclaim would avoid the attention all together, why would Max not choose to do that instead? I think this makes Max look good.

Even though you mention fakeclaims I think you're telling the truth about your role Magma.


@Jim:
Rejoice! RVS is not meta in this game! Instead it's mass-claiming at the start of D1.

I think this has helped more than hindered, do you agree?


@Toaster:
Thankfully, there's a 0% chance you can get converted in this game.

I think I know your scum tells pretty well now after playing with you in KWN, scared? Want to know what they are?
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Re: Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (R5, Day 1): A Single Clock And The Cracking Seal
« Reply #1859 on: January 18, 2022, 06:01:06 pm »

@Max and Magma:
I am town, and my role is useful, and I am not claiming.

EuchreJack, please subscribe me to your mailing list. I do not have a private chat and I want one.
At least throw a fakeclaim out.

I, on the other hand, will claim my 100% real role as Ninja Fruit Vendor.
There's certain roles I could see Max not wanting to share, but also there's certain roles I could see Max not wanting to share if that makes sense. Sometimes you want to paint a target on your back at night...a fakeclaim would avoid the attention all together, why would Max not choose to do that instead? I think this makes Max look good.

Even though you mention fakeclaims I think you're telling the truth about your role Magma.
I appreciate the vote of confidence but, I have to admit, I'm not sure I've put as much thought into it as you're implying.
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