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[The Doctor]

You're playing it wrong.

Being on top is nice, and I'd happily switch to sniper, go heavy, or be the only effing good spy on the whole team, but in the end, I just want to help my team reach victory. Even if I'm not on top of the scoreboard.

Spoiler: SEE WUT I DID THAR (click to show/hide)

[Soulwynd]

You're both playing it wrong.

In the end, I want to be the one with the most hats.

[The Scout]

You're both playing it wrong.

In the end, I want to be the one with the most hats.

I want the most guns, hats, and CRATES.

[Mr.Person]

I want to make the most money via trading items, modeling new items, and making maps.

[Shadowlord]

I took all my items off tf2items because people kept adding me to their friends list and then not saying anything.

[Soulwynd]

Special hats from crates are sold for absurd amounts of money on auction sites.

[Thexor]

Special hats from crates are sold for absurd amounts of money on auction sites.

Yeah... I'm kind of wondering how long until some group claims that TF2 is facilitating gambling. Buying a key is hardly different from buying a lottery ticket - you pay you're $2.50, and odds are you'll get a crummy weapon (which, thanks to the store, has a fixed dollar value), with a small chance of getting an ultra-rare hat that can be re-sold on auction sites. It's gambling, potentially for real money, and I'm curious as to what would happen if some lawyer tried to push the issue.

[Metalax]

They could probably reasonably get away with the fact you don't need to actually spend any money to get a key, you can trade found items/metal to someone else who has chosen to purchase one.

[MrWiggles]

As long as the trade sites are third party and unaffiliated with Valve, I don't see how they can be accused of something like that.

[Mr.Person]

As long as the trade sites are third party and unaffiliated with Valve, I don't see how they can be accused of something like that.

That's not the issue. The issue is that keys, which you have to pay for, are used to open crates, which have different chances of giving different prizes, one of which is very valuable. Problem is, that's not gambling. Legally speaking, gambling requires actual money to be involved as a prize, not material items.

[umiman]

I think it's more likely that Jupiter will crash into Uranus before TF2 gets into legal problems with gambling.

[PTTG??]

Legally speaking, gambling requires actual money to be involved as a prize, not material items.

Do be pendantic, it is a stretch to call an imaginary gun (or hat) a "material" item.

[Mr.Person]

Legally speaking, gambling requires actual money to be involved as a prize, not material items.

Do be pendantic, it is a stretch to call an imaginary gun (or hat) a "material" item.

Legally speaking, virtual items are still material items since they took time, effort, and/or money to acquire.

Perhaps the term I'm looking for is actually "material possessions"?

[kg333]

Legally speaking, gambling requires actual money to be involved as a prize, not material items.

Do be pendantic, it is a stretch to call an imaginary gun (or hat) a "material" item.

Legally speaking, virtual items are still material items since they took time, effort, and/or money to acquire.

Perhaps the term I'm looking for is actually "material possessions"?

Legally speaking, most software companies define that all virtual property in-game remains theirs.  Hence why Blizzard and other MMO companies are able to shut down and potentially prosecute gold sellers...under the TOS agreed to, it's an abuse of the company's virtual property for monetary gain.

KG

[The Scout]

Valve seems to have not done that. THE ULLAH POOL CABER IS ALL MINE!?!