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[Jackrabbit]

I'd disagree. If you get seen, they'll almost immediately pick you for a spy, whilst if you're a demoman or pyro you'll have a bit of a grace period to get the hell out of there. Sure, you should try to avoid being seen at all but there's periods where you need to be visible and in those periods, it's better to have a disguise that won't make you stick out so badly. The slightly smaller frame isn't worth it.

[Putnam]

I'd disagree. If you get seen, they'll almost immediately pick you for a spy, whilst if you're a demoman or pyro you'll have a bit of a grace period to get the hell out of there. Sure, you should try to avoid being seen at all but there's periods where you need to be visible and in those periods, it's better to have a disguise that won't make you stick out so badly. The slightly smaller frame isn't worth it.

If you get seen, you'll be almost immediately picked as a spy anyway. Anyone who isn't attacking or walking through their own team's stuff is going to be spychecked anyway, so the disguise being convincing is pretty moot.

[Osmosis Jones]

Disguise as a heavy.

Why, I hear you ask?

1) No spy will disguise as a heavy normally, because of the speed nerf that applies when you're not in cloak, and most people are aware of this. Thus, less suspicion.

2) Because your primary requires spinning up and slowing yourself right down, people won't expect you to be shooting randomly (compared to, say, pyro).

3) The aforementioned speed nerf does NOT apply when cloaked, thus for most of your trip, you'll be fine.

4) Medics like you.

[Putnam]

Disguise as a heavy.

Why, I hear you ask?

1) No spy will disguise as a heavy normally, because of the speed nerf that applies when you're not in cloak, and most people are aware of this. Thus, less suspicion.

2) Because your primary requires spinning up and slowing yourself right down, people won't expect you to be shooting randomly (compared to, say, pyro).

3) The aforementioned speed nerf does NOT apply when cloaked, thus for most of your trip, you'll be fine.

4) Medics like you.

Good luck backstabbing anything ever then >_>

[SHAD0Wdump]

Disguise as a heavy.

Why, I hear you ask?

1) No spy will disguise as a heavy normally, because of the speed nerf that applies when you're not in cloak, and most people are aware of this. Thus, less suspicion.

2) Because your primary requires spinning up and slowing yourself right down, people won't expect you to be shooting randomly (compared to, say, pyro).

3) The aforementioned speed nerf does NOT apply when cloaked, thus for most of your trip, you'll be fine.

4) Medics like you.

Good luck backstabbing anything ever then >_>

Not necessarily true, while you indeed will have issues backstabbing a moving force, one which is rooted in place will be much more prone to your attack, typically if you are going to use the heavy disguise, do so when the enemy is on the defense, or in a staging area.

[Orangebottle]

Spoiler: Demoman-related stuff. (click to show/hide)

The spoiler is a spy! This is actually Spy-related stuff.

Disguise as a heavy.

Why, I hear you ask?

1) No spy will disguise as a heavy normally, because of the speed nerf that applies when you're not in cloak, and most people are aware of this. Thus, less suspicion.

2) Because your primary requires spinning up and slowing yourself right down, people won't expect you to be shooting randomly (compared to, say, pyro).

3) The aforementioned speed nerf does NOT apply when cloaked, thus for most of your trip, you'll be fine.

4) Medics like you.

Good luck backstabbing anything ever then >_>

Not necessarily true, while you indeed will have issues backstabbing a moving force, one which is rooted in place will be much more prone to your attack, typically if you are going to use the heavy disguise, do so when the enemy is on the defense, or in a staging area.

More like "good luck getting to the enemy base ever", what with random spychecks.
You wouldn't believe how often I get spychecked as <insert class here>.
Here are the more terrible disguises:
Scout: Noticeably slower than regular scout. If you ARE going to disguise as scout, at least have the decency to jump around and shout,"Need a dispenser here!" constantly, like the actual thing.
Engineer: Not wrenching, not carrying toolboxes
Medic: You can't heal anyone.
Spy: I really shouldn't have to explain this one.

Disguise tips:
When you disguise as a sniper on their battlements, make sure you're at least pretending to snipe. Crouch to move slowly like a scoped sniper.
Flip through your disguises until you find someone who is damaged. Then, cloak(unless you have the dead ringer) and walk backwards towards the enemy base. You wouldn't believe how many people I've tricked with this one on 2fort.
Suit your weapons to what's happening during the battle.
Need to kill people faster? Take the ambassador or the enforcer depending on how often you get headshots.
Get spychecked too much? Take a spycicle with you for good measure.
Running out of cloak too fast to get to the enemy base? Take l'etranger or the Big Earner.
Problems with spychecking engineers? Take out Your Eternal Reward.
Find yourself destroying a lot of buildings? Bring on the Diamondback, and use those crits to destroy the enemy team.
I personally find myself using Spycicle/Ambassador/Dead Ringer a lot. Mainly because I find it more fun. Though, were I a sadist, I'd take the diamondback. I tend to sap a lot of engineer nests
.
Unfortunately, pyros seem to be catching onto the powers of the spycicle. I really wish Valve had made it so that being set on fire while you have the spycicle out ensures that you don't scream about fire.

ANYWAY.

So, does anyone else hate melee huntsman snipers?
Those annoying jerks who fire an arrow into your skull from right next to you.

[SHAD0Wdump]

More like "good luck getting to the enemy base ever", what with random spychecks.

Well of course you shouldn't be using the heavy disguise while in transit, use it once you're actually in the appropriate area, you CAN change disguises after all.(Unless you are using the YER)

[Putnam]

Spoiler: Demoman-related stuff. (click to show/hide)

The spoiler is a spy! This is actually Spy-related stuff.

Disguise as a heavy.

Why, I hear you ask?

1) No spy will disguise as a heavy normally, because of the speed nerf that applies when you're not in cloak, and most people are aware of this. Thus, less suspicion.

2) Because your primary requires spinning up and slowing yourself right down, people won't expect you to be shooting randomly (compared to, say, pyro).

3) The aforementioned speed nerf does NOT apply when cloaked, thus for most of your trip, you'll be fine.

4) Medics like you.

Good luck backstabbing anything ever then >_>

Not necessarily true, while you indeed will have issues backstabbing a moving force, one which is rooted in place will be much more prone to your attack, typically if you are going to use the heavy disguise, do so when the enemy is on the defense, or in a staging area.

More like "good luck getting to the enemy base ever", what with random spychecks.
You wouldn't believe how often I get spychecked as <insert class here>.
Here are the more terrible disguises:
Scout: Noticeably slower than regular scout. If you ARE going to disguise as scout, at least have the decency to jump around and shout,"Need a dispenser here!" constantly, like the actual thing.
Engineer: Not wrenching, not carrying toolboxes
Medic: You can't heal anyone.
Spy: I really shouldn't have to explain this one.

Disguise tips:
When you disguise as a sniper on their battlements, make sure you're at least pretending to snipe. Crouch to move slowly like a scoped sniper.
Flip through your disguises until you find someone who is damaged. Then, cloak(unless you have the dead ringer) and walk backwards towards the enemy base. You wouldn't believe how many people I've tricked with this one on 2fort.
Suit your weapons to what's happening during the battle.
Need to kill people faster? Take the ambassador or the enforcer depending on how often you get headshots.
Get spychecked too much? Take a spycicle with you for good measure.
Running out of cloak too fast to get to the enemy base? Take l'etranger or the Big Earner.
Problems with spychecking engineers? Take out Your Eternal Reward.
Find yourself destroying a lot of buildings? Bring on the Diamondback, and use those crits to destroy the enemy team.
I personally find myself using Spycicle/Ambassador/Dead Ringer a lot. Mainly because I find it more fun. Though, were I a sadist, I'd take the diamondback. I tend to sap a lot of engineer nests
.
Unfortunately, pyros seem to be catching onto the powers of the spycicle. I really wish Valve had made it so that being set on fire while you have the spycicle out ensures that you don't scream about fire.

ANYWAY.

So, does anyone else hate melee huntsman snipers?
Those annoying jerks who fire an arrow into your skull from right next to you.

I'm saying that there shouldn't be random spychecks, since you're going to be CLOAKED and not DISGUISED.

It's extremely easy to remain cloaked with the IW if you know the map and just keep moving.

See here for some shitty footage of what I mean\

[Tradanbattlan]

I like to keep track of the metal around the map. When I'm not running in circles defending, I'm usually watching the metal spawns. If they randomly dissapear, I start spamming fire. Spies should keep note of pyros who do this when they start spyin' it up. Try to grab metal when they leave, or when you have enough time to put distance between you and your roasted ass.

[Putnam]

I like to keep track of the metal around the map. When I'm not running in circles defending, I'm usually watching the metal spawns. If they randomly dissapear, I start spamming fire. Spies should keep note of pyros who do this when they start spyin' it up. Try to grab metal when they leave, or when you have enough time to put distance between you and your roasted ass.

The good part is that most pyros are ignorant of spy strategy and assume they're all DR or C&D

[Orangebottle]

I'm saying that there shouldn't be random spychecks, since you're going to be CLOAKED and not DISGUISED.

It's extremely easy to remain cloaked with the IW if you know the map and just keep moving.

See here for some shitty footage of what I mean\

I get randomly spychecked by my own team when I'm cloaked. I also end up getting shot when my bumbling allies charge in.

Of course, I play a lot of 2fort, so yeah.

[Enzo]

I get randomly spychecked by my own team when I'm cloaked.

That's the worst. Pyro flails around with his flame thrower at absolutely no provocation. Damn Pyro's being paranoid.

Anyway, Kunai + DR + Diamondback = Only way to spy. Whatever you're doing, you get heals or crits!

[Putnam]

I get randomly spychecked by my own team when I'm cloaked.

That's the worst. Pyro flails around with his flame thrower at absolutely no provocation. Damn Pyro's being paranoid.

Anyway, Kunai + DR + Diamondback = Only way to spy. Whatever you're doing, you get heals or crits!

oh god why

[Angel Of Death]

Is it just me, or is the Ambassador goddamn useless at least 60 percent of the time?

[Mr.Person]

Spy disguised as spy is a great disguise if you're in friendly territory but don't want to get shot at.