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Author Topic: FotF: Dwarf Fortress 40d16  (Read 270334 times)

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Re: FotF: Dwarf Fortress 40d14
« Reply #135 on: August 19, 2009, 10:53:03 pm »

64 bit processors are not expensive at all these days. The only real monkey wrench is that since most programs you'll ever use are compiled in 32 bit mode, they can be buggy on 64 bit operating systems, thus rendering such OSes very unsatisfactory.

I've been running 64bit for a few years now and have actually noticed the opposite. Even though, theoretically, it shouldn't be any different given that they're run with the same 32bit dlls in 64bit as they actually use in the 32bit OS.

Im guessing that the buggy code you're talking about is probably specific to some programs that were probably doing something wrong in the first place.
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Re: FotF: Dwarf Fortress 40d14
« Reply #136 on: August 19, 2009, 11:19:16 pm »

Just found that when designating an area to mine with the mouse, its works fine but its not "on target". For me it designates to the left of where I click. It might just be the window resizing puting it off.
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Re: FotF: Dwarf Fortress 40d14
« Reply #137 on: August 20, 2009, 04:36:01 am »

Yep. Fixed for d15.. but not yet.
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Re: FotF: Dwarf Fortress 40d14
« Reply #138 on: August 20, 2009, 09:24:41 am »

First post  ;D.

I don't know if it has been mentioned, but when you're using the search method for a place to embrak, the screen won't refresh itself ( this was already mentioned ) but wen you zoom in or out the screen refreshes.


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Re: FotF: Dwarf Fortress 40d14
« Reply #139 on: August 20, 2009, 09:54:37 am »

Zooming forces two full screen refreshes, which happens to tickle the bug such that it displays properly, that once.
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Re: FotF: Dwarf Fortress 40d14
« Reply #140 on: August 20, 2009, 11:42:11 am »

Okay, how about this: my screen's dimensions are not multiples of 16.  1440 is, but not 900 (4 from 896).  After only a few zooms back and forth, returning to "100%" where the tiles actually are 16x16 onscreen, the dimensions are very slightly off and all the tiles are a little blurred due to interpolation.  Which really sucks because my tileset (see below *shameless plug*) has a number of details that are rather fine and get very muddied.

At other zoom levels, I know that is just how it works, but at 100% it would be nice if it assumes 1:1 again.  Furthermore, some clamping for zoom levels that are powers of 2 would reduce artifacts as well.

Other than that and the refresh thing that everyone has mentioned, very nice.
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Re: FotF: Dwarf Fortress 40d14
« Reply #141 on: August 20, 2009, 12:13:14 pm »

Using the wheel to go back to 1:1 currently doesn't work. Use F12 instead.

(It will, later, but F12 would still be handy)
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Re: FotF: Dwarf Fortress 40d14
« Reply #142 on: August 20, 2009, 04:15:06 pm »

Dwarf fortress mode is running fast, almost two fast for my tastes.  Also experience a bit of lag after dying in adventure mode, sometimes hitting esc does nothing.
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Re: FotF: Dwarf Fortress 40d14
« Reply #143 on: August 20, 2009, 06:15:11 pm »

40d14 on XP64 (latest service pack/patches), an old save, with only Mayday's changes to the raws copied over for save compatibility:
The game has horrible slowdown outside, but more perplexingly, stops screen updating when I try to move the screen when it reaches a central stairwell with hatch covers next to a bottomless pit.  If I hit escape, and return to game, the screen recenters where it should be, but won't refresh unless I do that.  Moving the map focus anywhere else on the map -except- for the stairwell is laggy, but functional.  I think it's more the chasm than the stairwell, but can't really tell for sure.

If I actually edit the init (and no, I didn't copy the old init over, I always manually update it), input lag becomes too great to even launch and load a save, much less play.  And all I am doing is pointing the init at the tileset, not changing anything like partial print, etc.

So far the quickest and most stable for me has been d12, and I am looking forward to d15 because these speed and functionality improvements you guys keep offering are awesome.  Keep up the good work!

e: after another attempt at adding in elements one at a time, I think that I can say the severe refresh lag hits only if I try and bring the bottomless pit onto screen.  I've got tiles working now as expected (no performance difference with or without, using this same save).
e2: trying to worldgen with this current setup was a horrific idea, even at realtime priority on my phenom 2.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2009, 06:40:11 pm by Sepis »
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Re: FotF: Dwarf Fortress 40d14
« Reply #144 on: August 20, 2009, 06:24:40 pm »

I just downloaded it and tried it on my Windows box.  Noticing something really odd with the map generation.  I am making a map with custom params which are actually no different than the lerge preset except I raised min volcanoism to 20.  Map generation started like normal and then once it found a map and started generating lakes, it got stuck.  I then hit enter after giving it enough time where whatever it was doing should be done.  Instead of aborting, it updated the screen to show the map rendered completely and if I would want to continue.  It hit c and it gets stuck again.  This one I can wait out and switch focus to another window like Firefox and then come back and it will update the screen fine.  I then hit enter as prompted to do and I do make it successfully back to the main screen with the option to play the current map.  I am going to start a Dwarf mode game and see what happens.  Back in 40d13, it got stuck on me in the designations menu.  When I was trying to map out my initial dig of the fortress.

[update] The search function for embark seems to be stuck at 1/<map size> until it is finished.
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Re: FotF: Dwarf Fortress 40d14
« Reply #145 on: August 20, 2009, 07:03:06 pm »

The screen refresh bug is know, yep, and fixed for d15.
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Re: FotF: Dwarf Fortress 40d14
« Reply #146 on: August 20, 2009, 09:14:12 pm »

Oh, well FINE, fix things and stuff for all I care!  Just make the game 2x as fast!  Add zooming and transparent textures!

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It that case, no complaints so far.  Looking rad.
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Re: FotF: Dwarf Fortress 40d14
« Reply #147 on: August 21, 2009, 04:46:05 am »

I'm not sure if it's my modding (A few custom creatures and I've changed most of the stones to appear more often), but Furniture stockpiles are no longer being used at all since d14.
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Re: FotF: Dwarf Fortress 40d14
« Reply #148 on: August 21, 2009, 07:30:57 am »

Are there any translucent tilesets? Even screenshot will do, i want to see it.
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Re: FotF: Dwarf Fortress 40d14
« Reply #149 on: August 21, 2009, 08:02:36 am »

I'm not sure if it's my modding (A few custom creatures and I've changed most of the stones to appear more often), but Furniture stockpiles are no longer being used at all since d14.

It's probably your modding.  Did you generate a new world after implementing your mods?  Is furniture hauling turned on in Orders?
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