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[Pato2747]

I'm sorry I bring back a common issue, but even after updating my GPU drivers I still suffer the same problem (d14 doesn't even start). Is there any way to solve this after the "update drivers" solution has been tried?

Download and run glView, paste its output list of extensions supported here - make sure opengl actually works, in other words.

Sure. Here it is.

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Renderer: GeForce 8500 GT/PCI/SSE2
Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Memory: 512 MB
Version: 3.1.0
Shading language version: 1.40 NVIDIA via Cg compiler


Max texture size: 8192 x 8192
Max texture coordinates: 8
Max vertex texture image units: 32
Max texture image units: 32
Max geometry texture units: 32
Max anisotropic filtering value: 16
Max number of light sources: 8
Max viewport size: 8192 x 8192
Max uniform vertex components: 4096
Max uniform fragment components: 4096
Max geometry uniform components: 2048
Max varying floats: 60
Max samples: 16
Max draw buffers: 8


Extensions: 182

GL_ARB_color_buffer_float
GL_ARB_copy_buffer
GL_ARB_depth_buffer_float
GL_ARB_depth_texture
GL_ARB_draw_buffers
GL_ARB_draw_instanced
GL_ARB_fragment_program
GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow
GL_ARB_fragment_shader
GL_ARB_framebuffer_object
GL_ARB_geometry_shader4
GL_ARB_half_float_pixel
GL_ARB_half_float_vertex
GL_ARB_imaging
GL_ARB_map_buffer_range
GL_ARB_multisample
GL_ARB_multitexture
GL_ARB_occlusion_query
GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object
GL_ARB_point_parameters
GL_ARB_point_sprite
GL_ARB_shader_objects
GL_ARB_shading_language_100
GL_ARB_shadow
GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp
GL_ARB_texture_buffer_object
GL_ARB_texture_compression
GL_ARB_texture_cube_map
GL_ARB_texture_env_add
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine
GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3
GL_ARB_texture_float
GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat
GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two
GL_ARB_texture_rectangle
GL_ARB_texture_rg
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix
GL_ARB_vertex_array_object
GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object
GL_ARB_vertex_program
GL_ARB_vertex_shader
GL_ARB_window_pos
GL_ATI_draw_buffers
GL_ATI_texture_float
GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once
GL_EXT_abgr
GL_EXT_bgra
GL_EXT_bindable_uniform
GL_EXT_blend_color
GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate
GL_EXT_blend_func_separate
GL_EXT_blend_minmax
GL_EXT_blend_subtract
GL_EXT_Cg_shader
GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array
GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test
GL_EXT_direct_state_access
GL_EXT_draw_buffers2
GL_EXT_draw_instanced
GL_EXT_draw_range_elements
GL_EXT_fog_coord
GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit
GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample
GL_EXT_framebuffer_object
GL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB
GL_EXT_geometry_shader4
GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters
GL_EXT_gpu_shader4
GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays
GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil
GL_EXT_packed_float
GL_EXT_packed_pixels
GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object
GL_EXT_point_parameters
GL_EXT_provoking_vertex
GL_EXT_rescale_normal
GL_EXT_secondary_color
GL_EXT_separate_shader_objects
GL_EXT_separate_specular_color
GL_EXT_shadow_funcs
GL_EXT_stencil_two_side
GL_EXT_stencil_wrap
GL_EXT_texture3D
GL_EXT_texture_array
GL_EXT_texture_buffer_object
GL_EXT_texture_compression_latc
GL_EXT_texture_compression_rgtc
GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc
GL_EXT_texture_cube_map
GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp
GL_EXT_texture_env_add
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine
GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3
GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic
GL_EXT_texture_integer
GL_EXT_texture_lod
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias
GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp
GL_EXT_texture_object
GL_EXT_texture_shared_exponent
GL_EXT_texture_sRGB
GL_EXT_texture_swizzle
GL_EXT_timer_query
GL_EXT_vertex_array
GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra
GL_EXTX_framebuffer_mixed_formats
GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip
GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat
GL_KTX_buffer_region
GL_NV_blend_square
GL_NV_conditional_render
GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color
GL_NV_copy_image
GL_NV_depth_buffer_float
GL_NV_depth_clamp
GL_NV_explicit_multisample
GL_NV_fence
GL_NV_float_buffer
GL_NV_fog_distance
GL_NV_fragment_program
GL_NV_fragment_program2
GL_NV_fragment_program_option
GL_NV_framebuffer_multisample_coverage
GL_NV_geometry_shader4
GL_NV_gpu_program4
GL_NV_half_float
GL_NV_light_max_exponent
GL_NV_multisample_coverage
GL_NV_multisample_filter_hint
GL_NV_occlusion_query
GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil
GL_NV_parameter_buffer_object
GL_NV_parameter_buffer_object2
GL_NV_pixel_data_range
GL_NV_point_sprite
GL_NV_primitive_restart
GL_NV_register_combiners
GL_NV_register_combiners2
GL_NV_shader_buffer_load
GL_NV_texgen_reflection
GL_NV_texture_compression_vtc
GL_NV_texture_env_combine4
GL_NV_texture_expand_normal
GL_NV_texture_rectangle
GL_NV_texture_shader
GL_NV_texture_shader2
GL_NV_texture_shader3
GL_NV_transform_feedback
GL_NV_vertex_array_range
GL_NV_vertex_array_range2
GL_NV_vertex_buffer_unified_memory
GL_NV_vertex_program
GL_NV_vertex_program1_1
GL_NV_vertex_program2
GL_NV_vertex_program2_option
GL_NV_vertex_program3
GL_NVX_conditional_render
GL_S3_s3tc
GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap
GL_SGIS_texture_lod
GL_SGIX_depth_texture
GL_SGIX_shadow
GL_SUN_slice_accum
GL_WIN_swap_hint
WGL_ARB_buffer_region
WGL_ARB_create_context
WGL_ARB_extensions_string
WGL_ARB_make_current_read
WGL_ARB_multisample
WGL_ARB_pbuffer
WGL_ARB_pixel_format
WGL_ARB_pixel_format_float
WGL_ARB_render_texture
WGL_ATI_pixel_format_float
WGL_EXT_extensions_string
WGL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB
WGL_EXT_pixel_format_packed_float
WGL_EXT_swap_control
WGL_NV_float_buffer
WGL_NV_multisample_coverage
WGL_NV_render_depth_texture
WGL_NV_render_texture_rectangle

Core features
v1.1 (100 % - 7/7)
v1.2 (100 % - 8/8)
v1.3 (100 % - 9/9)
v1.4 (100 % - 15/15)
v1.5 (100 % - 3/3)
v2.0 (100 % - 10/10)
v2.1 (100 % - 3/3)
v3.0 (100 % - 23/23)
v3.1 (100 % - 8/8)
v3.2 (33 % - 3/9)

OpenGL driver version check (Current: 6.14.10.3929, Latest known: 6.14.11.9038):
Outdated version of display drivers detected
According the database, you are might be not using the latest version of display drivers for your video card.

Compiled vertex array support
This feature improves OpenGL performance by using video memory to cache transformed vertices.

Multitexture support
This feature accelerates complex rendering such as lightmaps or environment mapping.

Secondary color support
This feature provides an alternate method of coloring specular highlights on polygons.

S3TC compression support
This feature improves texture mapping performance in some applications by using lossy compression.

Vertex array range support
This feature improves performance in some applications by using AGP for dynamic vertex transformation.

Texture edge clamp support
This feature improves texturing quality by adding clamping control to edge texel filtering.

Vertex program support
This feature enables a wide variety of effects via flexible vertex programming (equivalent to DX8 Vertex Shader.)

Fragment program support
This feature enables a wide variety of effects via per pixel programming (equivalent to DX9 Pixel Shader.)

Texture anisotropic filtering support
This feature improves the quality of texture mapping on oblique surfaces.

Occlusion test support
This feature provides hardware accelerated culling for objects.

Point sprite support
This feature improves performance in some particle systems.

OpenGL Shading Language support
This feature enables high level shading language for shaders.

Frame buffer object support
This feature enables render to texture functionality.

Extension verification:
GL_ARB_uniform_buffer_object was not found, but has the entry point glGetUniformIndices
GL_ARB_uniform_buffer_object was not found, but has the entry point glGetActiveUniformName
GL_ARB_uniform_buffer_object was not found, but has the entry point glGetUniformBlockIndex
GL_ARB_uniform_buffer_object was not found, but has the entry point glGetActiveUniformBlockiv
GL_ARB_uniform_buffer_object was not found, but has the entry point glGetActiveUniformBlockName
GL_ARB_uniform_buffer_object was not found, but has the entry point glBindBufferRange
GL_EXT_color_subtable was not found, but has the entry point glColorSubTableEXT
GL_EXT_copy_texture was not found, but has the entry point glCopyTexSubImage3DEXT
GL_EXT_paletted_texture was not found, but has the entry point glColorTableEXT
GL_EXT_paletted_texture was not found, but has the entry point glGetColorTableEXT
GL_EXT_paletted_texture was not found, but has the entry point glGetColorTableParameterfvEXT
GL_EXT_paletted_texture was not found, but has the entry point glGetColorTableParameterivEXT
GL_EXT_subtexture was not found, but has the entry point glTexSubImage3DEXT
GL_KTX_buffer_region has the entry point glBufferRegionEnabledEXT missing!
GL_KTX_buffer_region has the entry point glDeleteBufferRegionEXT missing!
GL_KTX_buffer_region has the entry point glDrawBufferRegionEXT missing!
GL_KTX_buffer_region has the entry point glNewBufferRegionEXT missing!
GL_KTX_buffer_region has the entry point glReadBufferRegionEXT missing!
GL_NV_geometry_program4 was not found, but has the entry point glProgramVertexLimitNV
GL_NV_half_float has the entry point glVertexWeighthNV missing!
GL_NV_half_float has the entry point glVertexWeighthvNV missing!
GL_NV_present_video was not found, but has the entry point glGetVideoi64vNV
GL_NV_present_video was not found, but has the entry point glGetVideoivNV
GL_NV_present_video was not found, but has the entry point glGetVideoui64vNV
GL_NV_present_video was not found, but has the entry point glGetVideouivNV
GL_NV_present_video was not found, but has the entry point glPresentFrameDualFillNV
GL_NV_present_video was not found, but has the entry point glPresentFrameKeyedNV
WGL_NV_vertex_array_range was not found, but has the entry point wglAllocateMemoryNV
WGL_NV_vertex_array_range was not found, but has the entry point wglFreeMemoryNV
WGL_NV_video_output was not found, but has the entry point wglBindVideoImageNV
WGL_NV_video_output was not found, but has the entry point wglGetVideoDeviceNV
WGL_NV_video_output was not found, but has the entry point wglGetVideoInfoNV
WGL_NV_video_output was not found, but has the entry point wglReleaseVideoDeviceNV
WGL_NV_video_output was not found, but has the entry point wglReleaseVideoImageNV
WGL_NV_video_output was not found, but has the entry point wglSendPbufferToVideoNV
GL_ARB_compatibility was not found, but is available in driver version 6.14.11.9038

Mind you, the rendering tests in glView work perfectly.

[Baughn]

OpenGL should work, I suppose.

Can you expand on "it doesn't start"? Does the window show up at all? Are there any error messages?

[Pato2747]

The process *is* there - It shows up on the task manager and it remains there, chugging a fixed amount of ram and a slightly variating amount of CPU % (between 40 and 49), and only leaves when I force it to close. Besides of that there is no evidence that dwarf fortress is running at all: No window, no "Start the game in fullscreen" prompt, and no error messages.

[Baughn]

Well, that's..

If the window isn't showing up, then it's presumably failing prior to SDL initialization.

Not a whole lot happens that early, really. I can probably assume it's not a problem with SDL.. hm, if you turn on sound in init.txt, do you hear any?

[Mike Mayday]

Baughn, sorry to bother you with such trivialities, but I'm finding the zoom stuff somewhat unwieldy.
First off, I'm using a 64px tileset on a 1280x1024 resolution, so I'd expect the initial tilegrid size to be 80:64. That is not the case, the tiles are instead squashed to a rectangular shape (which means there are less than 64 tiles vertically).
Each time I run the game I have to scroll the tilegrid to set it to an appropriate size. I presume this has something to do with the game trying to make the initial menu fill the whole screen (it doesn't matter if I enable blackspace or not).

Then, after I start zooming, I have the following 2 requests:
-the zooming happens in way to small increments. I'd suggest using a x2, x4, x8 (and so on) zoom from the initial display which covers all the tiles. So with a 64px tileset, the game should start at x0.25 and then with two scroll moves you'd get to 100%
-If that is not possible, could you please add a key that resets the view back to full (80 tiles horizontally)?

[Lando242]

-If that is not possible, could you please add a key that resets the view back to full (80 tiles horizontally)?

F12 iirc.

[Mike Mayday]

F12 only resets the tilegrid size, not the zoom level.

[Baughn]

Other way around. F12 specifically resets the tile zoom to 1:1, then recalculates the gridsize based on that.

The whole zoom-tile calculation is a bit iffy at the moment; I've got a better system lined up for d15, so don't worry.

[tiresius]

I like the new zoom feature, it's fancy shmancy in the pantsy.

However, I am missing the nice crisp un-stretched graphics I would get with the 800x600 window size with the 800x600 curses font.  With a GRIDX=80  GRIDY=25  (I think) the graphics were nice and big and clear, and reminded me of SCREEN 8 in DOS (QBasic anyone?).  With the latest version the squares are pretty small and zooming gives quite a bit of stretching artifacts.

Anyway if someone has steps for config to get that view back, I'd appreciate it! 

Don't zoom, or if you already have, press F12 to reset the zoom to 1:1.

Proceed to increase the window size until the graphics are crisp. For the 10x12 font, 800x300 will do. (The minimum grid size is 80x25. Hold on, why is it called "800x600"?)

Make sure you keep BLACK_SPACE on, or it'll /never/ be crisp.

I know this is a little late I've been out of the game.  But I fixed my problem by resizing the 800x600 curses bitmap to double the height.  My window looks exactly as it did before now, thanks a bunch this runs nicely for me!

[Mike Mayday]

The whole zoom-tile calculation is a bit iffy at the moment; I've got a better system lined up for d15, so don't worry.

Good to know, thanks.
Anyway, the most important thing for me is that tiles on a square tileset should remain square no matter what.

[Andir]

The whole zoom-tile calculation is a bit iffy at the moment; I've got a better system lined up for d15, so don't worry.

Good to know, thanks.
Anyway, the most important thing for me is that tiles on a square tileset should remain square no matter what.

Hopefully someone's calculating an aspect ratio on tile load and conforming to that during resize... 

[Baughn]

I used to maintain the aspect ratio. Then I broke it in some rewrite or other, and got too busy solving actual bugs to care.

It's supposed to work, yeah, but it's basically a cosmetic flaw. Well, I'm pretty sure I'm done with all the non-cosmetic bugs now, so...

[Mike Mayday]

I used to maintain the aspect ratio. Then I broke it in some rewrite or other, and got too busy solving actual bugs to care.

It's supposed to work, yeah, but it's basically a cosmetic flaw. Well, I'm pretty sure I'm done with all the non-cosmetic bugs now, so...

*hugs*

[Pato2747]

Well, that's..

If the window isn't showing up, then it's presumably failing prior to SDL initialization.

Not a whole lot happens that early, really. I can probably assume it's not a problem with SDL.. hm, if you turn on sound in init.txt, do you hear any?

Sound is on, can't hear anything.

[QuinRiva]

Baughn, it's seems that I am also having the same problem as Pato2747.  The new 190.62 drivers means that DF works on my Windows7 64bit system, but I am still unable to get any 40dxx versions to run on my XP system.

As with Pato, the game starts but then nothing. No messages, windows etc. Just 50% CPU usage.