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Socialist

16 (32%)

Green

8 (16%)

Peace and Freedom

2 (4%)

Democratic

1 (2%)

Transhumanist

11 (22%)

Libertarian

8 (16%)

Republican

2 (4%)

Constitution

2 (4%)

Total Members Voted: 49

[Teneb]

I'd go further.

Ego-Kakistocracy. What even is that?

At least it's short. It gave me "Completely Underground Manual Primal Straight Capitalism". Which is just... what?


EDIT: You know what, let me give ya another weirdly specific political poll of dubious value. I got Eco-Anarchism.

[scriver]

I'd go further.

Ego-Kakistocracy. What even is that?

At least it's short. It gave me "Completely Underground Manual Primal Straight Capitalism". Which is just... what?

That is pure poetry is what that is xD

EDIT: You know what, let me give ya another weirdly specific political poll of dubious value. I got Eco-Anarchism.

I got Centrist Marxism, followed closely by Democratic Socialism, Utopian Socialism, and Left-Wing Nationalism.

[A Thing]

Spoiler: Specter of Communism Inside (click to show/hide)

[Teneb]

I'm actually kind of disappointed they didn't (I think) include Posadism as a possible result.

[misko27]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Kakistocracy: "A kakistocracy is a system of government that is run by the worst, least qualified, and/or most unscrupulous citizens." It's exclusively pejorative from when it was coined in the 17th century. This is funny to me. However, Kakistocracy also is etymologically the opposite of "aristocracy", so from that perspective perhaps it can't be all bad.

[Rolan7]

Spoiler: Eco-Marxism (click to show/hide)

I sorta hate questionnaires like this (so what am I doing here, right?) and had to mark a lot of questions "unsure", but it got me thinking about things.  So that's positive!

I mostly have trouble with the question of reform vs revolution, and of centralized vs community government.  I have opinions but no conviction behind them.  I still need to read more theory, unironically.

[scriver]

My opinions on revolution is very simple: Violent revolution only puts the people best at violence in charge. Do we want the people best at violence in charge?

[Teneb]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Kakistocracy: "A kakistocracy is a system of government that is run by the worst, least qualified, and/or most unscrupulous citizens." It's exclusively pejorative from when it was coined in the 17th century. This is funny to me. However, Kakistocracy also is etymologically the opposite of "aristocracy", so from that perspective perhaps it can't be all bad.

So the current governments? *laugh track*

[Rolan7]

Heh, exactly - existing governments are already inherently violent.  We're already forced to participate in society by the threat of incarceration or starvation.  Revolution involves a dreadful amount of violence, but it can easily be less violent in the long run.

[scriver]

Revolution involves a dreadful amount of violence, but it can easily be less violent in the long run.

The people who revolution puts in charge, the ones that are best at violence, will not hesitate to use the violence that they are the best at to prevent that. Because if things are not violent, they are no longer in charge.

You don't grow a rose garden by planting thorns. You grow one by planting seeds.

[Egan_BW]

Planting seeds in a bed of weeds doesn't work so well either.
Which is to say, I don't think revolution or reform are likely to work, and I have no solutions to give. Sorry.

[scriver]

I honestly don't even know if roses are grown from seeds

[MrRoboto75]

I honestly don't even know if roses are grown from seeds

Which came first, the rose or the seed?

[Bumber]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Kakistocracy: "A kakistocracy is a system of government that is run by the worst, least qualified, and/or most unscrupulous citizens." It's exclusively pejorative from when it was coined in the 17th century. This is funny to me. However, Kakistocracy also is etymologically the opposite of "aristocracy", so from that perspective perhaps it can't be all bad.

Spoiler: Social Kekistocracy represent: (click to show/hide)

Economic Axis: Utopian
68.3% | 31.7%
Diplomatic Axis: Ideological Pacificist
29.5% | 70.5%
Civil Axis: Individualist
64.7% | 35.3%
Societal Axis: Hedonist
17.9% | 82.1%
Closest Match: Social Kakistocracy

Spoiler: I got Centrist Marxism: (click to show/hide)

Reformist
33.8% | 66.2%
Scientific
73.4% | 26.6%
Neutral (Centralism)
48.3% | 51.7%
Internationalist
64.3% | 35.7%
Partisan
61.5% | 38.5%
Productivist
65.3% | 34.7%
Neutral (Progressivism)
42.6% |57.4%
Closest Match: Centrist Marxism

[Loud Whispers]

https://8dreams.github.io/valuesresults.html?e=56.7&d=67.0&g=83.8&s=39.3
So my closest form of government is an ego-kakistocracy, where the least qualified people run government. I imagine this would entail every local polity electing their best mate to be a member of parliament, so that the entire government cabinet consisted of simple folk deciding policy on what immediately affects people on the street. This uber populism would probably not survive very long under the weight of demagogues or lobbyists corrupting the elected officials, turning them into actual politicians - effectively indistinguishable from a normal democracy, with the only differing factor being the corrupt ones hadn't gone to Eton

https://leftvalues.github.io/results.html?a=51.5&b=17.2&c=26.7&d=35.7&e=46.2&f=18.1&g=48.5
So for this one I'm Utopian Socialism, which strives to have a moral foundation as a prerequisite for forming a marxist luxury space gay communist utopia. Between conservative-progressive, party-union and revolution-reform I'm 50/50. Yet I am 82.8% utopian, 81.9% environmentalist, 73.3% decentralist and 64.3% nationalist, which is altogether unsurprising. I love me local polities. Love me greens too, as well as me blues. Simple as