See, Zrk... I'm not really all for any of the things you're saying. Not only do I want Vector to be alive at least until Day 2, I would really, REALLY hope that you'd be giving her a fair trial. On the one hand, you suddenly popped into existence and gave us something to read. On the other hand, you popped out of nowhere and gave us crap to read.
Zrk2.
Would you mind being here? What would be a good thing for you to do right now? See following wall of text.
Why is it you're saying things, but not showing things? What is your information so far? See following wall of text.
What are you hiding? Nothing.
Unvote, vote Vector.
Well isn't that nice. My post is so unimportant, it's answered in itself, followed by a vote. I feel like we accomplished a lot here.
Furthermore, who do you think will be of greatest danger to the scum in this game?
The only benefit of this is to the scum, who can get other opinions on who they should NK.
Ooo, close one. The answer we were really looking for was a person's name.
I don't find this question to be bad. In any way. This isn't bad. It gives about as much opinion on who to NK as READING THE THREAD TO SEE WHO IS ACTIVE. DUR. There IS potential for this question, especially if asked to a scum pre-death. Granted, not much, but I'm not willing to believe that Vector or anybody else is planning on killing someone based on that question.
So, that's one point utterly destroyed. This point proved that you have no idea what you're saying, which might be counter to your overall goal.
Vector: Why are you asking that third question? The only team that can benefit from it is scum, as you'll essentially be telling them the targets, and since we don't have a doctor or a cop, we can't use that info anyways as we have no way of reacting to it. Besides that, any thoughts on game and players?
In my personal model for how this game functions, the only purpose of RVS is to get people talking and see how they think on any question. As for why I asked that particular question, I'm looking for hints of awkwardness/naturalness around being asked to assume a scummy mindset.
Also, NativeForeigner.
Vector says the only purpose of RVS is to provoke discussion, but her questions here do nothing to raise questions or provoke discussion, they just go towards establishing a meta. Where she says this:
I deleted your extra quote, as you simply repasted the same one, and I couldn't tell what you were trying to prove.
In fact, she had more to say about NativeForeigner right above that quote, which seems to have been deleted, so as to make your argument appear somewhat less incompetent:
Wuba: Is Leafsnail really scum and you're his partner playing some sick joke you hope you can rub in our faces later?
Also, do you expect anything about this game to be different considering that all of the players are "experienced" in a BM setting?
PFP
How many games have you played here, and which were they? How many times have you played scum? Can you link me to the games in which you played scum?
I will agree that these questions are terrible, but the intention is to begin talking, and she DOES happen to get a conversation flowing with NativeForeigner, proving your point to be false. You have again failed to show how this makes Vector scum.
Now, if you had shown these questions and shown them to be terrible, I could agree with that. Your point, however, is moot, since she DOES provoke a discussion with NativeForeigner, if only a while afterward.
I don't know, but i'd really prefer it didn't.
I believe that constitutes a slip. Explain this statement.
No it doesn't, townies want to stay alive so they can hunt scum, it's hard to do that if they get lynched.
I don't even know what you're trying to show with this post. If someone has to go back and look at the quote in question to figure out what it means, you did something wrong.
However, that doesn't even begin to say what was wrong with that post. First of all, Vector (supposedly, mind you, as I'm not Vector) misunderstood the quote to mean that the RNG shouldn't favor him (which might have something to do with being picked scum), which was in response to SaintDraze asking why the RNG favored him. Your response MAKES NO SENSE to either situation.
Not only that, but scum would equally like to live. Town want to live because their lynch wastes the Town's resources by not lynching Mafia. Scum want to live so that they win a Day earlier.
Your point thus needs either an explanation or doesn't exist. Which leads to
my your next point:
She has this claim of being 'rusty,' which she brings out early and often, so she can use it as a shield to defend herself against scumslips later.
So, Vector, I haven't played a game with you before, but I've heard good things about you. Do you feel a little rusty? What do you think of playing in a less role heavy environment?
Yes, I do feel pretty rusty. Less so than I did last time I played, though, because I feel confident that I'll be able to be active and aggressive again. Also, I'm a hell of a lot more mentally stable.
It's the sort of rustiness that comes of not having employed one's skills, not of having had one's skills degrade substantially.
Which is another thing I hate. You keep putting in little notes about how much you might be wrong, just in case you're wrong. You're not certain of what? You have to be certain of something. Why are you making yourself not accountable for your actions later on?
I'm worried about lynching town, and I'm still shaking off the rust.
Here is one of those scumslips: She tries to justify being passive as letting people drop scumtells, yet tries to push others to be more active. Scum, with a side of hipocrisy
I am certain that Jokerman and Zrk have been sidelining. The latter has been performing some actions reminiscent of playing people off of each other. I don't like the persistent "So, how do you feel about [PLAYER]" questions that have been flying around. The latter also piggybacked off of my accusation of piggybacking and didn't exactly pay attention to LN's explanation >_> It looks like an opportunistic vote.
Then why, oh why, are you not trying to push them any harder? You hardly push them as much as SaintDraze, and that's getting a whole lot accomplished.
I'm observing them. Sometimes you have to push people as hard as you can, and sometimes you need to see what happens when they aren't under pressure. A lot of people drop more tells when they think the water is fine, than when they think it's boiling.
This is about your only point you make, and it was mine. Not only that, but you had MY WHOLE POST to not only steal arguments from but to supplement them into your own post. You instead chose to make up your own arguments that are potentially nonexistent, but also really bad.
I can help but feel a little disappointed by that. You didn't put any effort into your post at all. Is this what you were working on while you were lurking? You can't even begin to call this evidence or even a reasonable support for your vote. I'm calling you out, pal. You either need to spend a bunch more time on this, or you need to unvote. Not that I'll unvote you any time soon. You haven't shown yourself to be an asset to the Town.
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