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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim
« Reply #4095 on: December 29, 2011, 05:52:32 pm »

Boethiah is maybe even more evil than Molag Bal, if I have to go by their quests...
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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim
« Reply #4096 on: December 29, 2011, 05:55:45 pm »

To be honest I haven't done any Boethiah quests at all, and when I did this one I had no Idea who he even was. In retrospective, now I have no bad feelings at all about killing that dude twice. :D
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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim
« Reply #4097 on: December 29, 2011, 06:02:46 pm »

One guy attacks you first, you're only acting in self defense.

Used the disarm shout and rigorous application of FOS RO DAH to keep him away while I looked for a way out. Ended up having to kill Tyranus just to get the door to unlock. Basically had to decide which of us was going to live and which was going to die because I had Tyranus so badly outclassed.

I guess I could have pummelled him with my fists, but the game doesn't accept unconciousness.
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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim
« Reply #4098 on: December 29, 2011, 06:05:38 pm »

Sure the guy is daedric prince of deceit, conspiracy, secret plots of murder, assassination, treason, and unlawful overthrow of authority but I still choose him over Molag Bal. He is allied with Stendarr (one of the divines) and that's gotta count for something.

Probably the most "good" daedric prince is Azura, in my opinion.
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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim
« Reply #4099 on: December 29, 2011, 06:10:04 pm »

Sure the guy is daedric prince of deceit, conspiracy, secret plots of murder, assassination, treason, and unlawful overthrow of authority but I still choose him over Molag Bal. He is allied with Stendarr (one of the divines) and that's gotta count for something.

Probably the most "good" daedric prince is Azura, in my opinion.
Even 'she' doesn't give a shit about mortals really but yeah she does 'good' things more often than 'bad'.
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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim
« Reply #4100 on: December 29, 2011, 06:14:04 pm »

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Azura is one of the few Daedra who maintains the appearance of being "good" by mortal standards, and presumably feels more concern for the well-being of her mortal subjects than other Daedric Princes, as evidenced in books such as Invocation of Azura. However, although she is never overtly deceitful, the way Azura always gets what she desires in the end, and how titanic events always follow her interventions, can be portrayed as disturbing.

Most daedric princes are evil but there are good ones too. My favorite is Sheogorath. He doesn't care about good and evil he's just having some fun!

Sanguine is cool too.
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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim
« Reply #4101 on: December 29, 2011, 06:24:22 pm »

I do like Sanguine, though he's a bit reckless.
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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim
« Reply #4102 on: December 29, 2011, 06:41:59 pm »

and getting soulstones for free? Yes please!

I would not say it's for free..
Since it requires recharging?

Considering it gives me the soulstones with which I can recharge it I'd say they're for free.


http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Mace_of_Molag_Bal


Hmm.. It only does soultrap, you sure you are not carrying any empty soulstones around?
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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim
« Reply #4103 on: December 29, 2011, 06:50:51 pm »

Just carry Azura's Star.
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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim
« Reply #4104 on: December 29, 2011, 06:54:39 pm »

Just carry Azura's Star.
This. Doubly so if you have the black star. That way, you beat up some bandits to get black soul gems, and refill the mace with ~1 soul.
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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim
« Reply #4105 on: December 29, 2011, 06:57:13 pm »

Any of you toying with any interesting mods?
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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim
« Reply #4106 on: December 29, 2011, 07:09:53 pm »

Any of you toying with any interesting mods?

Makers Mark Ingots has no effect on gameplay whatsoever, but it stamps all the ingots in the world with some marks that make them a little less bland. It's not the most interesting mod, but it's the one that I'll most readily recommend just because it's so small and neat.

I'm still not trying any big mods yet.
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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim
« Reply #4107 on: December 29, 2011, 07:19:39 pm »

My opinion on Daedric princes:

Good/benign Daedric princes:
Meridia - Rude but good intentions.
Sanguine - Nice fellow looking for fun.

Princes that are okay as long as you're on their good side:
Hircine - I'm uncertain about him. On one hand he hates rogue 'weres, on the other he doesn't forgive.
Nocturnal - I don't see anything bad about her, really. As long as you do your job.
Peryite - He doesn't seem actively evil besides the Pestilence thing. And he talks rather nicely.
Sheogorath - Fun fellow, but... Well, a little too chaotic at times. Still, he's not that bad, but I must leave him in this section because he is still dangerous.

Princes that are plain jerks:
Namira - Just plain disgusting, haven't done the quest yet but the quest doesn't sound very...
Mephala - She's kinda... err.
Mehrunes Dagon - Obvious.
Hermaeus Mora - Why did you kill the poor old man?
Clavicus Vile - Why you hate your dog so much. Plus, if it wasn't for Barbas, you likely would have smacked me.
Boethiah - Seriously? Killing someone who trusts me just to talk to you? No. Way.

Unsure:
Azura - I have never talked to her ever. I chose the Black Star.
Malacath - Never did quest yet.

Any of you toying with any interesting mods?
Val's Crafting Meltdown. Unbalancing, especially with transmutes, yes, but it makes it worth it to carry as much crap as you can out of dungeons. Which I think is a good thing.

Souls to Perks: Potentially unbalancing IF you set the number of dragon souls needed low, otherwise I consider it not that unbalancing. It makes getting more dragon souls worth it after you've learned a lot of your shouts.
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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim
« Reply #4108 on: December 29, 2011, 07:30:44 pm »

and getting soulstones for free? Yes please!

I would not say it's for free..
Since it requires recharging?

Considering it gives me the soulstones with which I can recharge it I'd say they're for free.


http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Mace_of_Molag_Bal


Hmm.. It only does soultrap, you sure you are not carrying any empty soulstones around?

<.<
That's what I meant. Stupid language differences. But I am pretty sure that can be charged with soulgems, which I get from trapping souls. Am I interpreting something wrong here?

Edit: Oh... I just read how the soul trap thing works. Darn. Well, it's still a good weapon.
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Re: Discussion on TES V: Skyrim
« Reply #4109 on: December 29, 2011, 09:18:44 pm »

My opinion on Daedric princes:
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I'd say that Azura and Mehrunes Dagon are the best bets for pacts.  Boethiah, Herma-Mora, Malacath, Mephala, Meridia, Nocturnal, and Peryite don't seem too bad, but I'd think it'd be highly situational and have a serious chance of coming back to haunt you.
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