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Author Topic: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim  (Read 1559307 times)

Grakelin

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8610 on: April 02, 2013, 04:37:57 pm »

Dragonborn DLC is basically an expansion pack, it's no horse armour.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8611 on: April 02, 2013, 04:50:42 pm »

And i think it is causing glitches with the Script AI, because i have had problems with NPCs not opening doors and the like, which has not happened the other times i've played.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8612 on: April 02, 2013, 04:56:28 pm »

Dragonborn DLC is basically an expansion pack, it's no horse armour.
In fact, even the most "horse-armorish" dlc for Skyrim, Hearthfire still adds at lot of actual content and it's well worth it's price. Just consider it what DLCs should be like, mini (or not so mini in case of Dawnguard and Dragonborn) expansions that are digitally distributed.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8613 on: April 02, 2013, 05:30:44 pm »

I am currently hunting a Blood dragon, while flying so high on my own Ancient dragon that WE'RE IN THE CLOUD LAYER.

Yes. I AM HAVING A DRAGON DOGFIGHT AMONGST THE CLOUDS.

Okay, screw that. I AM FIGHTING A DRAGON, AT A HEIGHT HIGHER THAN ANY MOUNTAIN IN TAMRIEL.

Screw that as well. I JUST SHOUTED A STORM AT THE DRAGON, CAUSING IT TO PLUMMET TO THE GROUND FROM A HEIGHT HIGHER THAN ANY MOUNTAIN IN TAMRIEL. MY DRAGON DOVE AFTER IT, STOPPING IN THE CLOUDS, AND THEN FINISHED IT OFF BY CRUSHING THE BLOOD DRAGON'S HEAD IN ITS JAWS.
(okay it bit it in the head, but I like to imagine a broken dragon skull)
Please tell me you know the mod for this. PLEASE.
I think that's just the Dragonoborn DLC.
DLC.
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Yeah, Dragonborn. I think there's a bit of an amazing glitch with dragon-riding, where they completely lose their sense of height when flying above valleys. Or it was just that awesome, I really have no idea.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8614 on: April 02, 2013, 07:18:38 pm »

Some spoilers for the start of Dawnguard:
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8615 on: April 02, 2013, 07:48:33 pm »

Some spoilers for the start of Dawnguard:
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FYI: Akatosh is the one that makes mortals Dragonborn. To serve as a natural predator for Dragons. Which are supposed to be his Aedra. He is also not very sane.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8616 on: April 02, 2013, 08:18:26 pm »

Some spoilers for the start of Dawnguard:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

FYI: Akatosh is the one that makes mortals Dragonborn. To serve as a natural predator for Dragons. Which are supposed to be his Aedra. He is also not very sane.
It's a god. You want a god to be sane? Or even self consistent? Sheogorath is just the only one actually honest about it. :P
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8617 on: April 02, 2013, 09:50:12 pm »

Some spoilers for the start of Dawnguard:
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FYI: Akatosh is the one that makes mortals Dragonborn. To serve as a natural predator for Dragons. Which are supposed to be his Aedra. He is also not very sane.
It's a god. You want a god to be sane? Or even self consistent? Sheogorath is just the only one actually honest about it. :P
Sheogorath.
Shoggoth.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8618 on: April 02, 2013, 10:25:26 pm »

Daedric lords != Divines
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8619 on: April 02, 2013, 10:41:58 pm »

Some spoilers for the start of Dawnguard:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

FYI: Akatosh is the one that makes mortals Dragonborn. To serve as a natural predator for Dragons. Which are supposed to be his Aedra. He is also not very sane.

Akatosh himself is an Aedra, not his dragons. His dragons are... somehow related. Dragonborn isn't necessarily associated directly with Akatosh, either. Alduin isn't lying when he says that he's Akatosh--he's entirely right about being Akatosh--but he's not Akatosh. The Dragonborn seems to be mantling Talos a bit with his/her behavior (like the hero of Oblivion mantled Pelinal Whitestrake and the Neravarine mantled Neravar), or perhaps Lorkhan/Shor (who, while different beings, are the same).

Yeah, don't try to figure out the lore too hard.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8620 on: April 02, 2013, 11:54:25 pm »

Go read the Warp in the West. What it really is saying is, 'Is there a possibility that it happened? Then it did. It's a video game, good luck pinning us down on one specific answer.'
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8621 on: April 03, 2013, 03:59:07 am »

Alduin is Akatosh. He's not a different person, just a coin viewed from two different sides of a battlefield.

And furthermore, Akatosh is crazy. Akatosh and Lorkhan were once the same, but they went so crazy their split personality syndrome became a split person syndrome. That is how Sheogorath was born, by the way. Through Akatosh/Lorkhan's madness.

And every single thing that is not Daedric - every god, every spirit, every person, every animal, every tree, every grass, every stone, every metal, every physical law - is Aedra or Aedric respectively.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8622 on: April 03, 2013, 04:08:41 am »

Sheogorath is quite odd in the sense that while you would think he would be a harmful influence (he is a god of madness) his actions overall seem to teeter on the "good" side of things.

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furthermore, Akatosh is crazy

Sorta, it is a bit more complicated then that... and by complicated I mean. He is crazy and he isn't crazy which is just maddening.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8623 on: April 03, 2013, 04:48:04 am »

Alduin is Akatosh. He's not a different person, just a coin viewed from two different sides of a battlefield.
It gets better. He is also Auriel, Auri-El, Alkosh the Dragon King of Cats and ia also the soul of the soul of Anu.

And furthermore, Akatosh is crazy. Akatosh and Lorkhan were once the same, but they went so crazy their split personality syndrome became a split person syndrome. That is how Sheogorath was born, by the way. Through Akatosh/Lorkhan's madness.
Of course Sheogorath was also just the cursed form of Jyggalag, and it's not until after the events of Shivering Isles that they have separate existences.

One of the stranger things to bear in mind when trying to make sense of the elder scrolls lore is that, particularly with daedra, multiple contradictory sequences of events can be completely true at the same time.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #8624 on: April 03, 2013, 05:04:43 am »

Or more appropriately, Jyggalag is the personification of Akatosh-Lorkhan's mental stability, while Sheo is the personification of his/their madness.

Alduin is Akatosh. He's not a different person, just a coin viewed from two different sides of a battlefield.
It gets better. He is also Auriel, Auri-El, Alkosh the Dragon King of Cats and ia also the soul of the soul of Anu.

Those are different. They're just different names of the same being from different mythologies. Tyr/Tiwaz Mars/Ares kind of deal.
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