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Author Topic: American Election Megathread - It's Over  (Read 721107 times)

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #4680 on: August 16, 2012, 03:44:57 pm »

I really doubt that the VP race will matter this time around. In '08 it was a big deal because McCain was so old, him dying in office was a far statistical possibility, while a lot of conspirators expected Obama's election to be received violently. This time around, Romney's not that old, and Obama's settled in enough that fears of his removal are no longer a factor.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #4681 on: August 16, 2012, 04:07:16 pm »

Romney Says ‘I’ve Paid at Least 13%’ in Taxes in Past Decade

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... he called the continued focus on his personal tax returns “small-minded” in the face of the nation’s problems.

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In an interview during his trip abroad last month, Mr. Romney was asked whether he had ever paid a tax rate lower than the 13.9 percent he paid in 2010.

“I haven’t calculated that,” Mr. Romney told David Muir of ABC News. “I’m happy to go back and look, but my view is I’ve paid all the taxes required by law.”

No need to comment, he's just digging himself a trench.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #4682 on: August 16, 2012, 04:14:42 pm »

Congress's approval rating is roughly the same as Encino Man's rating on Rotten Tomatoes: 16%. Hell, Brendan Fraser and Pauly Shore might make better Representatives than most of the folks in there now. Well...Fraser might.
At least they're more popular than Fidel Castro again. Marginally.
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Worth noting: FOX News actually has the highest margin for Obama, which is surprising.
Not that surprising. FOX said Obama had a massive advantage last election too. They want people to think he's a serious threat and come out to vote in response. It's more sneaky than maintaining that you're winning regardless of reality, but not very different in intent.
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North Carolina: Romney +1
Now there's an oddity. I wasn't expecting a dead heat from NC after the conservative swing these last few years.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #4683 on: August 16, 2012, 04:28:40 pm »

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North Carolina: Romney +1
Now there's an oddity. I wasn't expecting a dead heat from NC after the conservative swing these last few years.
Yeah, me either. PPP actually has Obama with a tiny lead in their latest poll, but they tend to lean left so I'm not putting much weight on that.

The state has swung to the right, but there's also a lot of people fed up with the swing to the right and some of the pants-on-head-retarded things that have come of it, such as our "lalalalala can't hear you the sea level isn't rising" policy. My Republican father-in-law detests the NC Republican Party for all this stupid shit, and while he was an ardent McCain/Palin supporter in 2008, he pretty quickly came around and griped that people were piling on Obama before he even had a chance to do anything. Dunno how he'll vote this time around...hasn't come up in discussion.

You have to remember that a fair number of the GOP in the cities are Yankee transplants, not good ol' boys. They're a different kind of Republican, and whlie they might actually be more pro-Romney than the good ol' boys, they're less inherently anti-Obama.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #4684 on: August 16, 2012, 09:04:30 pm »

Anybody even vaguely considering voting for Romney should watch this first.  What he says now isn't what he used to say, or what he'll likely say later on.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #4685 on: August 16, 2012, 09:25:17 pm »

Romney: gets elected, retroactively changes his campaign promises.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #4686 on: August 17, 2012, 07:39:41 am »

Romney: gets elected, retroactively changes his campaign promises.
Mitt Romney has ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #4687 on: August 17, 2012, 09:30:16 am »

The DHS is not "local authority".
Which was my point. The DHS and administration were not behind the crackdowns. Local authorities were. However, eyes and blame went to the DHS and White House because they are seen as the default oppressors. That idea that Federal power is more dangerous than local power is what is wrong here.

Well, your article is at least partially incorrect. The decision (at least in Portland) was made by FPS/DHS agents "on the ground" alongside local police, not by the city or the state. Unless you literally mean "local power" as in "the federal agents in YOUR town" or something.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #4688 on: August 17, 2012, 09:51:43 am »

The DHS is not "local authority".
Which was my point. The DHS and administration were not behind the crackdowns. Local authorities were. However, eyes and blame went to the DHS and White House because they are seen as the default oppressors. That idea that Federal power is more dangerous than local power is what is wrong here.

Well, your article is at least partially incorrect. The decision (at least in Portland) was made by FPS/DHS agents "on the ground" alongside local police, not by the city or the state. Unless you literally mean "local power" as in "the federal agents in YOUR town" or something.
In this case, yes. The local FPS is responsible for the protection of Federal employees and property. FPS is part of DHS, but it looks like the local branches were given discretion to handle the situation. The issue is that at the top levels, there was a directive to make no systematic policy of interfering with the Occupy protests. Obviously, you're not going to say "Let them do whatever the hell they want, even if threatens Federal employees" so FPS still had discretion to invite the local cops in if they deemed it necessary.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #4689 on: August 17, 2012, 02:24:00 pm »

Anybody even vaguely considering voting for Romney should watch this first.  What he says now isn't what he used to say, or what he'll likely say later on.

I prefer a flip-flopper who does what the people want, rather than someone who gets people killed, captured, or their identities exposed, like these brave men. The same man who invalidates intelligence that could save lives, by announcing the death of Osama and rendering all this information from the hideout invalid. The same man who kills people because he doesn't want the fallout of having to detain the terrorists. Because why should he care how many bodies he has to climb over, if he gets to sit in the oval office another 4 years. Don't believe me? Ask Brian Terry's family.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #4690 on: August 17, 2012, 02:29:25 pm »

Don't forget Stuxnet.
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« Reply #4691 on: August 17, 2012, 02:40:52 pm »

Don't forget Stuxnet.

You are holding this out against Obama?
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« Reply #4692 on: August 17, 2012, 02:41:43 pm »

Don't forget Stuxnet.

You are holding this out against Obama?

Well, it's not like virtually every piece of intelligence leaked has made Obama look like a champ, and the fact these leaks have some very high officials names attached.


Owait.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #4693 on: August 17, 2012, 02:47:41 pm »

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/tom-morello-paul-ryan-is-the-embodiment-of-the-machine-our-music-rages-against-20120816#ixzz23oXpFTYc

Oh, and I think the pile of bodies Obama will have to crawl over because he has gone to far will be smaller than the pile of bodies Romney will gleefully stroll over while cracking jokes because he has not gone to far enough.
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« Reply #4694 on: August 17, 2012, 02:49:33 pm »

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/tom-morello-paul-ryan-is-the-embodiment-of-the-machine-our-music-rages-against-20120816#ixzz23oXpFTYc

Oh, and I think the pile of bodies Obama will have to crawl over because he has gone to far will be smaller than the pile of bodies Romney will gleefully stroll over while cracking jokes because he has not gone to far enough.

Prove it.
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