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Leafsnail

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5220 on: September 06, 2012, 11:39:54 am »

Isn't saying that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel simply factually incorrect?  I'd understand "We would like to have Jerusalem recognised as the capital of Israel" but just making a statement about it does not make it so.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5221 on: September 06, 2012, 11:50:27 am »

The de jure capital of Israel is Jerusalem, but the de facto capital is Tel Aviv.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5222 on: September 06, 2012, 12:24:34 pm »

De jure according to Israeli law, not international law.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5223 on: September 06, 2012, 12:29:39 pm »

As if international law really matters.
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« Reply #5224 on: September 06, 2012, 01:12:03 pm »

International law does matter, but only as far as Palestine is considered a nation. I'm also not entirely sure WHAT international law would say, even if Palestine could, without a doubt, be considered a nation. If I understand right, international law tends to be a lot more case-by-case in its decisions rather than having books upon books of pre-determined scenarios written out. The relations between the two, including any treaties or agreements would be looked at as well as similar situations that have been resolved between other states in recent history. Precedent is important, even if it's not necessarily binding.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5225 on: September 06, 2012, 01:25:25 pm »

@MichiganNonsense: The more and more I look into the politics of my home state, the more and more I want to facepunch every politician in the state until they cede power to me.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5226 on: September 06, 2012, 01:26:09 pm »

You should've seen the Arab voters at the DNC screaming Nay.

The whole breaking their back thing to satisfy the [christian] religious fundamentalists is insulting. Especially when they think they have the ability to determine what is and isn't a Capital of another country. As a Jew and an American I will solidly tell both of their platforms to go suck a dick for only advancing the cause of Israel, which is the 'exterminate anything that is not in line with their policies' policy. Or force them out of their cities and lands to build settlements for rich families.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5227 on: September 06, 2012, 01:34:16 pm »

I think all the christian zionists are in the republican party.   There still are some pretty knee jerk pro-Israel jews in the democratic party.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5228 on: September 06, 2012, 01:35:56 pm »

I think all the christian zionists are in the republican party.   There still are some pretty knee jerk pro-Israel jews in the democratic party.

Approximately 2/3rds of the Democratic party is.


Can I please vent about how goddamn insulting it is that this is being turned into 'They are godless and out of touch' when the fact of the matter is the contention was about Jerusalem being blatantly overstated as the capital [which, news flash, it's not, welcome to Tel Aviv America] and further exacerbating Jew v Arab relations in the US?
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5229 on: September 06, 2012, 01:38:27 pm »

This is such a small incident that the guy in charge was confused why anyone would even protest.
Which tells you how freakin' out of touch the party establishment is with the membership.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5230 on: September 06, 2012, 01:41:05 pm »

It looks to me like I might have underestimated the size of the forum this was taking place in.  I must confess I'm a bit confused.  This seems a bit too imflamatory a platform statement for prime time to me considering their past.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5231 on: September 06, 2012, 02:03:09 pm »

To think I thought it would just be the Republicans being blatant crooks in the convention.

Ah well, there's always Gary Johnson.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5232 on: September 06, 2012, 02:21:00 pm »

That was fucking bullshit.

There is no way that passed with 2/3.

I am now filled with rage.

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5233 on: September 06, 2012, 02:51:50 pm »

So... which set of corrupt individuals are you going to vote for?
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« Reply #5234 on: September 06, 2012, 02:57:15 pm »

Considering Democrats never follow the party platform anyway, I really do not see why this is such a big deal.

Jill Stein is the best candidate for president, but the Greens are so hopeless I'm not wasting my vote.
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