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[Lich180]

Ok, so I'm playing with that necromancer world vjek posted about from the wiki, and I've been trying to at least get a few elven sites to generate. The map is set to only generate flat lands, with no forests or other regions really.

My question is: what parameters affect the generation of forests? I tried the region counts, min/max counts, and such, but I honestly have no clue what else could be affecting it, unless I need to change the rain/temperature/something else settings around.

Anyone know what to change? I appreciate the help.

[Necrisha]

I recall it being a combo of mid elevation, high drainage, and high rainfall, so tweak those.

[Lich180]

I recall it being a combo of mid elevation, high drainage, and high rainfall, so tweak those.

Sweet, thanks. Got a map to gen that had a few forests, but elves are a little too weak to survive worldgen I guess. A few worlds have them a few don't, just depends on lucky good biomes spawning on forests.

Found a decent little spot; two towers in range, no elves but the site itself has fire clay, marble, limonite, cassiterite, native gold, garnerite, tetrahedrite, sphalerite, native copper, galena, 6 bismuthinite, 2k candy, gypsum and kaolinite.

Located on a river, zombie ravens tend to invade relatively early and can cause some issues, the area reanimates all dead and rains elf blood.

Location:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

World Gen:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[WORLD_GEN]
   [TITLE:HUMAN_NECROS]
   [SEED:mL8ZKxfgwlcsqNueo27D]
   [HISTORY_SEED:luoUpaUzVbFeWD1OOwD5]
   [NAME_SEED:dUT5RlkPK5qKtHWetWzF]
   [CREATURE_SEED:8B2UHZu5VuHA2rxnXmLt]
   [DIM:33:33]
   [EMBARK_POINTS:1324]
   [END_YEAR:499]
   [BEAST_END_YEAR:100:40]
   [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:0]
   [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0]
   [ELEVATION:100:350:3200:3200]
   [RAINFALL:0:100:1:100]
   [TEMPERATURE:70:75:51:51]
   [DRAINAGE:0:100:51:51]
   [VOLCANISM:0:100:3200:3200]
   [SAVAGERY:0:33:51:51]
   [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:1:9:0:0:0:1]
   [RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [MINERAL_SCARCITY:900]
   [MEGABEAST_CAP:30]
   [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:30]
   [TITAN_NUMBER:30]
   [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:100000:0]
   [DEMON_NUMBER:22]
   [NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:22]
   [BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:22]
   [VAMPIRE_NUMBER:22]
   [WEREBEAST_NUMBER:22]
   [SECRET_NUMBER:500]
   [REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:20]
   [DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:500]
   [EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:20]
   [EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:20]
   [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:100:0:0]
   [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:500:0:0]
   [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:0]
   [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
   [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
   [VOLCANO_MIN:20]
   [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:0:0:0]
   [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:1000]
   [RIVER_MINS:0:0]
   [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:0]
   [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:0]
   [SUBREGION_MAX:2750]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:90]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:10]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:10]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:25]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:25]
   [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
   [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:100]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:30]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:5]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:5]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:5]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:3]
   [LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:2]
   [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:40]
   [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:25]
   [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:5]
   [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:40]
   [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:1]
   [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
   [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:50]
   [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:-1]
   [SITE_CAP:68]
   [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
   [ELEVATION_RANGES:136:272:136]
   [RAIN_RANGES:0:0:0]
   [DRAINAGE_RANGES:0:0:0]
   [SAVAGERY_RANGES:0:0:0]
   [VOLCANISM_RANGES:0:0:0]

[asnys]

Does anyone have an embark with colored diamonds and rock crystal in reasonable quantity, preferably near the surface?   Or even just colored diamonds - I've found light yellow and faint yellow diamonds in 34.11, but I've yet to see any colored ones (other than imports, obviously).

[salttotart]

I'm looking for something that may or may not be a challenge.  Here is what I'm looking for:

- River/Brook
- Volcano/Pool near the surface
- Pit exposed to the surface
- Shallow and Deep metals
- Sand (underground is fine, that's typically how I find it anyway)
- Not evil
- Medium to low savagery

Embark size doesn't really matter as long as it isn't gigantic.

Can I get an embark?

[vjek]

...
- Pit exposed to the surface
...

I'm not sure what this means?  But that aside, this embark meets your criteria, as does this one.

[salttotart]

...
- Pit exposed to the surface
...

I'm not sure what this means?  But that aside, this embark meets your criteria, as does this one.

I've been playing with the first one quite a bit, but I would like a similar embark with a round chasm that goes entirely through the map's Z-levels. I would like to build a fort with the pit as the central pillar that everything is built around.

[joeclark77]

I've been playing with the first one quite a bit, but I would like a similar embark with a round chasm that goes entirely through the map's Z-levels. I would like to build a fort with the pit as the central pillar that everything is built around.

Chasms are very rare, if they even exist in this version.  I've never seen one myself.
If you look up about four or five posts, I posted something I found out about worldgen parameters that gives you a lot of volcanos near rivers.  That might be a good place to start.

[The_Jester]

...
- Pit exposed to the surface
...

I'm not sure what this means?  But that aside, this embark meets your criteria, as does this one.

I've been playing with the first one quite a bit, but I would like a similar embark with a round chasm that goes entirely through the map's Z-levels. I would like to build a fort with the pit as the central pillar that everything is built around.

You are probably going to have to dig your own chasm. Takes a while, but it isn't too difficult.

[Apilem]

Hey guys. Could you please suggest a world-gen with good ocean biome. Spent hours to find one on random gen and playing with edit brought no good.
Thanks in advance.

[vjek]

Hey guys. Could you please suggest a world-gen with good ocean biome. Spent hours to find one on random gen and playing with edit brought no good.
Thanks in advance.

Apilem,
Do you mean something like... beachfront ocean with Good (as in feather trees/sun berry) biome adjacent in the same embark?  Any other preferences regarding savagery, embark size, elevation (flat, non-flat) temperature, etc?

[mobucks]

Favor low elevation in the elevation weighted range. Low elevation actually means under water. Then raise the min number of partial/full map edges that have ocean. (Minimum Complete/Partial Edge Oceans)

To get more "good" locations, raise the Desired Good/Evil Square Counts to favor good. AFAIK this is the only setting that affects alignment of biomes. Savagery is different.

[Apilem]

Vjek, Mobucks,
Overall, I am looking for the mermaids. And on wiki i saw a term "good ocean", where they exist.
So I think I got something. More playing with gen and now I got ocean with good savagery.

Got it. Thanks.

[vjek]

gotcha.

Ok, well, I presumed as much, and did this.  I know you've got something already, but maybe this will be an option if you want to try some variety (you can just remove the seeds to get some more similar worlds):

Spoiler: apilem_good_ocean_good_biomes_worldgen (click to show/hide)

Code: [Select]

Created in DF v0.34.11.

[WORLD_GEN]
[TITLE:APILEM1]
[SEED:6g9tz0Rvze1KOu9Slzb7]
[HISTORY_SEED:wciA0gRzHlJgWosNSvA3]
[NAME_SEED:OJ0UH9heezLU7s5ehTRG]
[CREATURE_SEED:eAnGbgPOvAYAB9mwetMx]
[DIM:65:65]
[EMBARK_POINTS:2500]
[END_YEAR:350]
[BEAST_END_YEAR:350:99]
[REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
[CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0]
[ELEVATION:40:350:800:800]
[RAINFALL:10:100:3200:3200]
[TEMPERATURE:50:75:3200:3200]
[DRAINAGE:10:100:3200:3200]
[VOLCANISM:0:0:0:0]
[SAVAGERY:0:100:3200:3200]
[ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:3:9:0:0:0:1]
[RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
[MINERAL_SCARCITY:1000]
[MEGABEAST_CAP:10]
[SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:10]
[TITAN_NUMBER:10]
[TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:0:0:100000]
[DEMON_NUMBER:0]
[NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:0]
[BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:0]
[VAMPIRE_NUMBER:0]
[WEREBEAST_NUMBER:0]
[SECRET_NUMBER:0]
[REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:0]
[DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:0]
[EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:0]
[EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:0]
[GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:4225:0:4225]
[EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:1000:0:0]
[PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:0]
[PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
[COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:4]
[VOLCANO_MIN:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:0:0:0]
[REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:0:0:0]
[EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:0]
[RIVER_MINS:0:0]
[PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:0]
[OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:0]
[SUBREGION_MAX:2750]
[CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3]
[CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:1]
[CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:5]
[CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0]
[CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:0]
[CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:25]
[CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:25]
[HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
[HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:5]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:20]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:2]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:2]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:2]
[LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:3]
[LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:2]
[CAVE_MIN_SIZE:1]
[CAVE_MAX_SIZE:1]
[MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:0]
[NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:0]
[ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:0]
[SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
[TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:3]
[TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:1]
[SITE_CAP:1]
[PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
[ELEVATION_RANGES:0:0:0]
[RAIN_RANGES:0:0:0]
[DRAINAGE_RANGES:0:0:0]
[SAVAGERY_RANGES:0:0:0]
[VOLCANISM_RANGES:0:0:0]


It produces world(s) that look like this, or similar (with different seeds):

Spoiler: world_screenshot (click to show/hide)

[Apilem]

vjek,
Thanks! Helped a lot with the understanding of procedure.