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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6735 on: July 22, 2013, 09:24:19 am »

In that case, nothing would stop us applying the same technologies in launching a small probe with a few dozen minds running on it, or many such probes, contravening the Fermi paradox.
Yeah, that's actually one of the original purpose of the 'cyborg' idea. The famous 1960 Clynes and Kline paper:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/40145380/Cyborgs-and-Space-By-Manfred-E-Clynes-and-Nathan-S-Kline
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6736 on: July 22, 2013, 09:43:44 am »

Greenpeace on fusion.
They seem less and less likeable to me.
I began to dislike them when they supported the EUCJ sentence on ESC patents with the usual pro-lifer bullshit about ipscs making ESC "unnecessary". Really? Let's see what Shinya Yamanaka, nobel prize of Medicine and the goddamn DISCOVERER of IPSCs says about the matter: Whoops!
So... what about the ISSCR? Does it say any different?

Spoiler: "No, it doesn't" (click to show/hide)
So screw you GreenPeace, screw you very hard. If I ever gave a dime to you was so that you could troll the Japanese for ignoring the whaling ban, nuclear weapon tests, and shit like that. But leave actual scientific research to the grownups to deal with, k? Things are bad enough with the Eurozone crisis for you to come in and muddle the waters even further with your cluelessness
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6737 on: July 22, 2013, 03:35:44 pm »

Greenpeace on fusion.
They seem less and less likeable to me.
I began to dislike them when they supported the EUCJ sentence on ESC patents with the usual pro-lifer bullshit about ipscs making ESC "unnecessary". Really? Let's see what Shinya Yamanaka, nobel prize of Medicine and the goddamn DISCOVERER of IPSCs says about the matter: Whoops!
So... what about the ISSCR? Does it say any different?

Spoiler: "No, it doesn't" (click to show/hide)
So screw you GreenPeace, screw you very hard. If I ever gave a dime to you was so that you could troll the Japanese for ignoring the whaling ban, nuclear weapon tests, and shit like that. But leave actual scientific research to the grownups to deal with, k? Things are bad enough with the Eurozone crisis for you to come in and muddle the waters even further with your cluelessness

> demand IPSCs replace ESCs
> IPSCs require (epi-)genetic manipulation to be made
> trash genetic research facilities

Greenpeace cannot into logic.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6739 on: July 25, 2013, 04:14:09 am »

Considering the article contained a  link to this, I'm not so sure it's reliable.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6740 on: July 25, 2013, 04:16:29 am »

Even if it is true, you know when big oil finds were a sign of a good oil supply? When finding them wasn't news.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6741 on: July 25, 2013, 04:26:48 am »

well, it is good to know that we shoved bad the energy collapse point a few years back, even if this doesn't help in regard of climate change. ( if it is as large as stated)
the link to E-Cat is a bit... well, I don't know. I won't trust anything Mr Rossi says about it until he reveals his catalyst, assuming there really is one.

however, there is also a link about thorium fission research in that article, and thorium fissium is a promising field. beats coal, anyway.

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« Reply #6742 on: July 25, 2013, 04:39:43 am »

Considering the article contained a  link to this, I'm not so sure it's reliable.
There were questions raised as to it's authenticity on the website I got it from. So keep that in mind that it may not be reliable.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6743 on: July 25, 2013, 05:13:50 am »

Aren't we all still waiting for those oil pipelines from Turkmenistan to the West being completed? Some of the biggest reserves in the world are down there.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6744 on: July 25, 2013, 06:28:59 am »

http://news.yahoo.com/bank-mistakenly-repossesses-ohio-woman-s-home-172941826.html

You or I do this and its a felony burglary among other crimes with a few years in jail. Bank does it; gets cocky about it to victim.... "Corporations are people." Who can we jail? (Hopefully the one in charge, but.... [sigh])

I hope she sues them for far more than $18,000.

I've seem this before where you could kinda see the mistake... 303 instead of 308 or something, but how do you get 509 to 514? GPS? Really?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6745 on: July 25, 2013, 06:40:22 am »

Yeah... imagine if that kind of excuse worked for, y'know, thieves. "Sorry yer honor, I thought I was moving my friends' stuff for 'em. They tol' me the address an'GPS lead me here and I assumed it was thissun! Honest mistake, coulda' happened t'anyone." Then y'just hit the same street until everyone but the friend is pilfered.

... but yeah. If it was a group of people doing something like that, who would you jail? Start with the on-the-ground movers and work your way up? Maybe it's about time we started letting some legal liability weasel its way through th'liability protection incorporation offers.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6746 on: July 25, 2013, 06:59:34 am »

What we need is a cultural shift that stops worshiping wealth and starts socially punishing greed instead.  The law is never going to be turned against them until such a cultural shift takes place anyway.
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« Reply #6747 on: July 25, 2013, 07:02:23 am »

What we need is a cultural shift that stops worshiping wealth and starts socially punishing greed instead.  The law is never going to be turned against them until such a cultural shift takes place anyway.
Never gonna happen.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6749 on: July 25, 2013, 08:24:27 am »

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First of all, the oil in this formation in Australia is going to be quite expensive to extract.  It has been estimated that it is going to cost up to 300 million dollars just to get this site ready for production.
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