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2: NC and TR

3: NC, TR and Vanu

[miauw62]

So, who else thinks this is pay to win? Things that boost your abilities and improves your guns cost a ton of certs. These certs take hours to gain. Anyone who buys things will have access to a bunch of boosts. That 40 dollar alpha pack? Yeah, expect to be killed by those guys a lot.

*shrug*.
Yes, i'm alpha squad.
Havent spent a single bit of station cash yet tough.
Nor have i done anything with my cert points. I'm kinda confused.

[Siquo]

You can't spend SC in the beta. Or I wouldn't anyway, since everything will be wiped.

Anyway, i'm still not in the outfit, anyone online right now?

[miauw62]

Yeah, i'm not going to do it in the beta.
Scriptwolf was online, he disconnected.
Also, we lost rashnu.
This is bad.
We recaptured zurvan tough.

[Volatar]

Yeah... we picked Leda. Leda is consistently mentioned as the single most imbalanced server of them all.

There is a reason I have been playing on Metis.

[miauw62]

Its been quite boring the last few days. No big territory shifts.

Remember kids: dont fuck swans, it makes you imbalanced!

[Siquo]

Ahwell, I thought it was nice to have some resistance, after our last NC dominated server.

So... we switching servers, or what?
Oh and watch out when waiting for a gunner at spawn, you get kicked for being inactive... 

[Volatar]

I play VS with the Reddit outfit on Metis (a west coast server). Which has been pretty balanced, though TR fell behind the other two a bit yesterday.

[miauw62]

Apparantly i am officer. What is your ingame name siquo?
Do /tell Miauw in chat

Nothing as sastifying as running into a cp room and seeing a tr or vanu infiltrator right in your rocket sights.


EDIT:

One of my friends got in the beta!
No names yet tough.

[Bizanchindoragon]

Hello i am Miauw's friend who got in Beta  Could i join you guys?

[timferius]

Hello i am Miauw's friend who got in Beta  Could i join you guys?

No

Hahahahah just kidding.
I'm hilarious really... the more the merrier!
(I have no authorization to speak for the forums, but I will anyway).

[Vattic]

So, who else thinks this is pay to win? Things that boost your abilities and improves your guns cost a ton of certs. These certs take hours to gain. Anyone who buys things will have access to a bunch of boosts. That 40 dollar alpha pack? Yeah, expect to be killed by those guys a lot.

Certs are not gainable by RL money. Only Auraxium purchases will be. Auraxium purchases are all side grades.

Beta is beta, so don't start the whining just yet.

Auraxium does buy you small advantages. Faster reload, changing weapons, XP gain, and similar. So in a sense you can pay to make gaining certs easier.

[Volatar]

So, who else thinks this is pay to win? Things that boost your abilities and improves your guns cost a ton of certs. These certs take hours to gain. Anyone who buys things will have access to a bunch of boosts. That 40 dollar alpha pack? Yeah, expect to be killed by those guys a lot.

Certs are not gainable by RL money. Only Auraxium purchases will be. Auraxium purchases are all side grades.

Beta is beta, so don't start the whining just yet.

Auraxium does buy you small advantages. Faster reload, changing weapons, XP gain, and similar. So in a sense you can pay to make gaining certs easier.

This is not different from the established big name F2P games which are not known as Pay to Win.

[Rez]

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Also: does the vanguards main gun actually have spread?

[Paul]

As long as any mechanical benefits can be gotten by the f2p players in a reasonable time frame, I don't consider games pay to win. The implants so far can be gotten pretty cheaply just with Auraxim, which you can gather at a reasonable rate just by playing. So can the guns, although they cost significantly more. The trick to a good free to play game is they have to make the paid stuff attractive enough to be profitable, without being so good that people who don't pay feel completely outclassed by those who do. Will have to see how they balance it at release, but so far things don't seem like they'll be too bad for the free players.

Also: does the vanguards main gun actually have spread?

I'm pretty sure it does. Makes hitting targets a ways off difficult, since you can't necessarily use your previous shot to gauge what adjustments are needed. I've tried hitting base turrets from a ways off and having half my shells go a bit to the left, a bit to the right, a bit below, and a bit above my target all fired from the same spot (lining up with a tree in front of me, so I know I was firing at the same spot).

[Volatar]

Last patch (the wipe one) added a significant amount of spread to tank weapons. My first reaction was that it was a horrible change, but, after playing for a bit, I love it.

Not only does it promote better coordination when in larger tank battles, it helps balance the Lighting's role as compared to the Main Battle Tanks. Before, a Lightning that tried to race around the flank of an MBT would usually get shot down easily. Now, the Lightning usually can get behind the MBT often without taking any shots at all. A skilled Lightning can beat a one-maned MBT now, and it's great. I have been playing the Lightning as my sole ground vehicle since the wipe and loving it. Way more fun to play than the MBT's.

Still can't beat a two-maned MBT, but that is as it should be.