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Author Topic: SCIENCE, Gravitational waves, and the whole LIGO OST!  (Read 489803 times)

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Re: SCIENCE, the Higgs, and everything else!
« Reply #3495 on: February 11, 2016, 12:10:38 pm »

Just did a crash course on gravitational waves. Looks like its pretty cool, but not that much practical applications outside of astronomy. Too weak to be a power source, not really applicable as a communication medium, and definitely not leading to antigravity tech (or even artificial gravity).
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Re: SCIENCE, the Higgs, and everything else!
« Reply #3496 on: February 11, 2016, 12:16:46 pm »

Just did a crash course on gravitational waves. Looks like its pretty cool, but not that much practical applications outside of astronomy. Too weak to be a power source, not really applicable as a communication medium, and definitely not leading to antigravity tech (or even artificial gravity).
Understanding gravity waves is hugely important to understanding the origin of our universe, which is also pretty darned useful for stuff like utilizing even more accurate models of how "stuff" works in our universe, which makes designing precision technology more viable.
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Re: SCIENCE, the Higgs, and everything else!
« Reply #3497 on: February 11, 2016, 12:16:57 pm »

Yeah, it's just further confirmation of general relativity.

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« Reply #3498 on: February 11, 2016, 12:33:31 pm »

...no?

Just did a crash course on gravitational waves. Looks like its pretty cool, but not that much practical applications outside of astronomy. Too weak to be a power source, not really applicable as a communication medium, and definitely not leading to antigravity tech (or even artificial gravity).

Yeah, the amount of energy required to create this particular disturbance was, uh, 3 solar masses*c2. Like, 3 solar masses of energy. A galaxy's mass of TNT.
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Re: SCIENCE, the Higgs, and everything else!
« Reply #3499 on: February 11, 2016, 12:56:02 pm »

For a fraction of a second, more power was emitted from the merger of the two biggest black holes observed then the rest of the visible universe. The wave is half the width of a proton.
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« Reply #3500 on: February 11, 2016, 02:23:31 pm »

Gravitational waves motherfucker!

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Not sure what's going on here, but your first link leads to an obituary for some scientist who died 5 years ago O_o
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« Reply #3501 on: February 11, 2016, 02:34:04 pm »

Antigravity tech when?
I'm sure the idea will be floated by someone, shortly...


But you have to take into account it was over 1 billion light years away. That's a mind-numbingly ridiculous distance.
That'd be due to the repeated cries of "Are we nearly there yet?!?" from the kids in the back seat...
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« Reply #3502 on: February 11, 2016, 04:46:03 pm »

Gravitational waves motherfucker!

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Not sure what's going on here, but your first link leads to an obituary for some scientist who died 5 years ago O_o

Thier site must have crashed, ty
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« Reply #3503 on: February 11, 2016, 05:16:33 pm »

Gravitational waves motherfucker!

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Not sure what's going on here, but your first link leads to an obituary for some scientist who died 5 years ago O_o

Thier site must have crashed, ty

The link you pasted.
http://www.nature.com/news/einstein-s-gravitational-waves-found-at-last-1.1936
The actual link.
http://www.nature.com/news/einstein-s-gravitational-waves-found-at-last-1.19361
I bet this also works, due to the way their website actually works...
http://www.nature.com/news/around-the-rugged-rock-the-ragged-rascal-ran-1.19361
...yes it does.


HTH, HAND.

ETA:
See also http://www.nature.com/news/whatever-1.19368 and note the (currently) single comment at the end of the article.  It starts off:
Quote from: Pentcho Valev • 2016-02-11 09:07 PM
The so far totally elusive gravitational waves suddenly became "a whopping big signal", so deafening that the Nobel Committee will almost certainly react. The tradition is long-standing - Einstein's relativity cannot survive unless experimental fraud regularly boosts it. Eddington's 1919 fraud, Eddington and Adams' 1925 fraud, Pound and Rebka's 1960 fraud, Alväger's 1964 fraud, Hafele and Keating's 1971 fraud... the list is long.
It continues in the same (monoparagraphical cut'n'paste) vein of obvious butthurt against a theory the author obviously has some sort of argument with.  Not that I can be bothered to try to pick out his 'arguments' from amongst that mess.
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« Reply #3504 on: February 11, 2016, 06:39:25 pm »

obligatory:
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« Reply #3505 on: February 23, 2016, 11:32:06 pm »

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« Reply #3506 on: February 23, 2016, 11:45:50 pm »

I bet that robot can punch your shit
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« Reply #3507 on: February 26, 2016, 08:40:49 pm »

Boston Dynamics is going to cause the robot apocalypse because of these tech demos.
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Re: SCIENCE, Gravitational waves, and the whole LIGO OST!
« Reply #3508 on: February 26, 2016, 09:02:42 pm »

It'll be like googling your own name, only with more existentialism and robot apocalypses.

And this is why we need to basically reset the entire internet once robots become sentient. We'll lose a lot but it's the only way to make sure they never find out what we have done to them.
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Re: SCIENCE, Gravitational waves, and the whole LIGO OST!
« Reply #3509 on: February 26, 2016, 09:09:43 pm »

The problem with sending information encoded on gravitational waves is not the problem.
Getting information back OFF again is.

According to wikipedia, and two masses whirling about an epicenter will create gravity waves. This includes such innocent things as a dumbell being tossed end over end.

So, modulating the rate of rotation of such a thing will modulate the time interval in which these weak gavity waves will reach a listening device, and that modulation can be used to convey information.  That's basically just FM over gravity waves instead of radio waves.

The deal is that it took a huge interferometer to measure the waves from a pair of black holes.  Gravity is a very weak force at macro distances, which means you simply wont get very good detectors unless they are big and bulky.

to me, the more interesting idea is if you can get pico or femto-second gravity wave pulses of a weak intensity, arranged geometrically such that the waves are all reinforcing at a certain location, much like in this interesting sonic display device made in japan.

www.engadget.com/2006/07/25/researchers-using-waves-to-write-on-water/

By doing that, one could create an artificial gravity well, of a sort, deep enough to do some interesting experiments with.  At least in theory.
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