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[cedstonge]

I dont know if this is normal but the game keep crashing sometime in the world gen other time about 1 hour in game ... i cant play for long untill it crash is there something i could do to avoid that

[chaosfiend]

EDIT: Something else. Is the Cloth Cutter for Kobolds broken currently? I have Clothesmaking active, and the raws say thats the labour, but my bolds and standing about just piddling about with no job, even though I have it lined up for them. Its not canceling. Its just not activating at all

the raws look fine, but the leather-armor reactions do use leatherworker skill.

Yeah, The others buildings work fine for Leather, Chitin, Scale, ect. But the Cloth cutter has had its same job queued up for a whole in game year now, and I have at least 4 kobolds with Clothesmaking. None of the Clothe Cutter Reactions are working.

[Atkana]

Thought I'd note this down here because it might be an unintended interaction: Playing adventure mode as a Succubus I managed to acquire 2 slabs that are supposed to grant a couple of the *-mancers mod secrets (Pyromancy and Tyromancy) but when I read them nothing happens. I did a bit of investigating and testing and I think it's down to the fact the *-mancers mod secrets require the reader to be Mortal, but Sucubi don't have a max age and so don't qualify. I've done a bit of tinkering and got it so I can learn any of the secrets besides the ones I've read the slab for - no cheese webs for me, it seems

Would it be possible to send me the adv mode save? I'd like to investigate this.

Unfortunately I don't really have the save available anymore, but during my brief original testing it was happening in arena mode too so I don't think it was save-specific. As penance for not backing up my save I did some testing using arena mode for you.

I've confirmed that the problem is down to the Mortality issue and also worked out why I couldn't gain the powers after fixing the raws. When a Succubus reads a Mancers Secret slab they actually do learn the secret but because of the [IT_REQUIRES:MORTAL] token in the Mancers interactions, combined with the fact Succubi have no Max Age and are therefore non-mortal (actually I didn't specifically test that it's to do with Max Age, I'm just assuming this part ^_^;), means that a Succubus learning the secret isn't granted the powers that come with it. It explains why I couldn't gain the powers from re-reading the slabs as my adventurer after editing the raws - she already knew the secrets so wasn't having them granted to her again. After editing the Mancers interactions to remove the [IT_REQUIRES:MORTAL] tokens, Succubi can learn the secrets and gain the powers like they should (aside from the aforementioned funkiness concerning secrets they already 'know'). Basically, the problem is just down to a quirk in how the two mods interact when played with together, and with a quick edit to interaction_mancy it's easily fixed.

Here are my messy notes if you want to read them:

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I don't mention it but whenever I spawn in a Succubus I give them the correct skill in reading - I'm not derping on that front :P
[SAVE 1]
Created regular Succubus in Arena
[Succubus 1] Spawned in a slab with the secret for Mancers Pyromancy
[Succubus 1] Read the slab and didn't gain the interactions
Saved and exited [I'll refer to this save as CHECKPOINT ALPHA]
Note: The following indent is messed up because I edited the main raw file rather than the Arena save's itself. I included this for the sake of keeping all my notes but it can probably just be ignored. The main thing to take away from it is that the Succubi ARE learning the secret, they just aren't being granted the interactions.
Edited the interaction raws so it doesn't require Mortal (EXCEPT I DIDNT EDIT THE RIGHT ONES >.>)
Reloaded save
[Succubus 1] Read the slab again an still didn't earn the interactions
Created a new succubus
[Succubus 2] As I was preparing to test on the new succubus, Succubus 1 mentioned they had learned the secret of fire in conversation. (Might explain why I couldn't get the interactions again - I already counted as knowing the secret so it didn't try to grant me the interactions on the second viewing)
[Succubus 2] Reading the same slab didn't grant abilities, but according to emotions they did learn the secrets of fire
[Succubus 2] Spawned in new slab for the same secret (Mancer's Pyromancy), reading it didn't grant interactions
Edited the slab to grant Mancer's Cryomancy
[Succubus 2] Read the slab, didn't get the Cryomancy interactions but according to emotions they did learn the secrets of conjuring cold.
Spawned in one more Succubus for the sake of thoroughness
[Succubus 3] Read the Cryomancy slab, didn't get interactions, did learn the secrets according to emotions
Spawned in another fresh Succubus
Created a fresh Cryomancy slab
[Succubus 4] Read the fresh slab, didn't get interactions, did learn the secrets according to emotions

Didn't expect it to start working after a base raws edit - the save file retained the tags that require mortal.
Note from future self: Damnit, I should've edited the save's raw file to see what happens ^_^;
/stupidity
Edit the SAVES RAWS this time
Loaded up CHECKPOINT ALPHA
[Succubus 1] With newfound knowledge, checked the emotions menu and confirmed they had indeed learned the secrets when they originally read the slab
[Succubus 1] Read the original slab and didn't gain the interactions
Edited the slab to grant Cryomancy instead
[Succubus 1] Read the newly edited slab and earned the interactions, and learned the secrets according to emotions
[Succubus 1] For the sake of testing everything, spawned in a fresh slab with the secret of Mancers Pyromancy
[Succubus 1] Read the new slab, didn't get the interactions.

[SAVE 2]
Started a fresh arena save after the main Raw edit I made during the previous save
Created regular Succubus
[Succubus A] Spawned in a slab with the secret for Mancers Pyromancy
[Succubus A] Read the slab and gained the interactions! (and learned the secret according to emotions)

[dead]

Thank you.

Dont forget that CTRL ALT S does a quicksave.

WHAT!? I've been typing quicksave like a filthy peasant. Lol. Thanks.

[chaosfiend]

Meph, for the Kobolds, is it normal for them to be so brutally beaten down in World gen? I mean, compared to other races, I can never see the kobolds ever passing 1000 total population in Legends, with even the weakest of the Fortress defense raves outshining them in sheer population. Like, out of the six world gens I've done and exported to legends, after about 150 years, (with 75 Civs to account for multiple Defense races, and boosted Megabeasts/titans/ect. I hate worlds where they all die off too fast), Kobolds average about 750 final population. This is often half of the next least populous race. Is world gen simply not kind to them overall?

[Meph]

Let me think... a race that has a maximum age of 15 years, can only survive on bones/meat, and has the size of a dwarves leg.

Yep, I think its normal that they get beaten down into pulp.

[chaosfiend]

I'd have thought the fact that they can breed so fast and often have huge litters of baby bolds would at least bring their population out of last place. :/

[Mythologique]

I tried to create a new world and it just crashes at Finalizing Entities every time. It did this on the previous version too. I tried turning some mods off but, it's still going down. Any ideas?

[Meph]

I tried to create a new world and it just crashes at Finalizing Entities every time. It did this on the previous version too. I tried turning some mods off but, it's still going down. Any ideas?

In the first release the Fortress Defense races were broken; in 1.01 that is fixed. I had no other reports of issues in world generation or entities. Try genning a world with fortress defense races disabled. If that does not help, disable even more races in the gui.

But really, there should be nothing wrong with the entities if you are using 1.01.

[Mythologique]

I tried to create a new world and it just crashes at Finalizing Entities every time. It did this on the previous version too. I tried turning some mods off but, it's still going down. Any ideas?

In the first release the Fortress Defense races were broken; in 1.01 that is fixed. I had no other reports of issues in world generation or entities. Try genning a world with fortress defense races disabled. If that does not help, disable even more races in the gui.

But really, there should be nothing wrong with the entities if you are using 1.01.

I got it working. I just erased all the DF stuff and started over. I had the newest version, just downloaded today but something must've gotten corrupted. Thanks for your time!

[chaosfiend]

Hrmn, just noticed, but do kobolds not have any access to bookcases, thus are unable to make Libraries?

[chaosfiend]

Alright, I got a save that is consistently crashing now. I've played 5 times off this save, and within 5-15 minutes every time it crashes. No idea why.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6a7clh75w33txz9/AAD01csaLUy1wubOH9C0vzDya?dl=0

[Boltgun]

Thought I'd note this down here because it might be an unintended interaction: Playing adventure mode as a Succubus I managed to acquire 2 slabs that are supposed to grant a couple of the *-mancers mod secrets (Pyromancy and Tyromancy) but when I read them nothing happens. I did a bit of investigating and testing and I think it's down to the fact the *-mancers mod secrets require the reader to be Mortal, but Sucubi don't have a max age and so don't qualify. I've done a bit of tinkering and got it so I can learn any of the secrets besides the ones I've read the slab for - no cheese webs for me, it seems

Would it be possible to send me the adv mode save? I'd like to investigate this.

Unfortunately I don't really have the save available anymore, but during my brief original testing it was happening in arena mode too so I don't think it was save-specific. As penance for not backing up my save I did some testing using arena mode for you.

I've confirmed that the problem is down to the Mortality issue and also worked out why I couldn't gain the powers after fixing the raws. When a Succubus reads a Mancers Secret slab they actually do learn the secret but because of the [IT_REQUIRES:MORTAL] token in the Mancers interactions, combined with the fact Succubi have no Max Age and are therefore non-mortal (actually I didn't specifically test that it's to do with Max Age, I'm just assuming this part ^_^;), means that a Succubus learning the secret isn't granted the powers that come with it. It explains why I couldn't gain the powers from re-reading the slabs as my adventurer after editing the raws - she already knew the secrets so wasn't having them granted to her again. After editing the Mancers interactions to remove the [IT_REQUIRES:MORTAL] tokens, Succubi can learn the secrets and gain the powers like they should (aside from the aforementioned funkiness concerning secrets they already 'know'). Basically, the problem is just down to a quirk in how the two mods interact when played with together, and with a quick edit to interaction_mancy it's easily fixed.

Here are my messy notes if you want to read them:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Code: [Select]

I don't mention it but whenever I spawn in a Succubus I give them the correct skill in reading - I'm not derping on that front :P
[SAVE 1]
Created regular Succubus in Arena
[Succubus 1] Spawned in a slab with the secret for Mancers Pyromancy
[Succubus 1] Read the slab and didn't gain the interactions
Saved and exited [I'll refer to this save as CHECKPOINT ALPHA]
Note: The following indent is messed up because I edited the main raw file rather than the Arena save's itself. I included this for the sake of keeping all my notes but it can probably just be ignored. The main thing to take away from it is that the Succubi ARE learning the secret, they just aren't being granted the interactions.
Edited the interaction raws so it doesn't require Mortal (EXCEPT I DIDNT EDIT THE RIGHT ONES >.>)
Reloaded save
[Succubus 1] Read the slab again an still didn't earn the interactions
Created a new succubus
[Succubus 2] As I was preparing to test on the new succubus, Succubus 1 mentioned they had learned the secret of fire in conversation. (Might explain why I couldn't get the interactions again - I already counted as knowing the secret so it didn't try to grant me the interactions on the second viewing)
[Succubus 2] Reading the same slab didn't grant abilities, but according to emotions they did learn the secrets of fire
[Succubus 2] Spawned in new slab for the same secret (Mancer's Pyromancy), reading it didn't grant interactions
Edited the slab to grant Mancer's Cryomancy
[Succubus 2] Read the slab, didn't get the Cryomancy interactions but according to emotions they did learn the secrets of conjuring cold.
Spawned in one more Succubus for the sake of thoroughness
[Succubus 3] Read the Cryomancy slab, didn't get interactions, did learn the secrets according to emotions
Spawned in another fresh Succubus
Created a fresh Cryomancy slab
[Succubus 4] Read the fresh slab, didn't get interactions, did learn the secrets according to emotions

Didn't expect it to start working after a base raws edit - the save file retained the tags that require mortal.
Note from future self: Damnit, I should've edited the save's raw file to see what happens ^_^;
/stupidity
Edit the SAVES RAWS this time
Loaded up CHECKPOINT ALPHA
[Succubus 1] With newfound knowledge, checked the emotions menu and confirmed they had indeed learned the secrets when they originally read the slab
[Succubus 1] Read the original slab and didn't gain the interactions
Edited the slab to grant Cryomancy instead
[Succubus 1] Read the newly edited slab and earned the interactions, and learned the secrets according to emotions
[Succubus 1] For the sake of testing everything, spawned in a fresh slab with the secret of Mancers Pyromancy
[Succubus 1] Read the new slab, didn't get the interactions.

[SAVE 2]
Started a fresh arena save after the main Raw edit I made during the previous save
Created regular Succubus
[Succubus A] Spawned in a slab with the secret for Mancers Pyromancy
[Succubus A] Read the slab and gained the interactions! (and learned the secret according to emotions)

Thank you for the investigations. I will add a MAXAGE of 2000 and see if it fixes the bug. This might also fix a blocking bug I have with the succubi's magic powers.

[chesse20]

how do i get more succubi babies if they are all girls

[cerevox]

A few are incubi. It's just at 10 to 1 or so.