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Re: Space Thread
« Reply #1530 on: January 25, 2016, 10:40:01 pm »

Difficult to quantify. That is like comparing newtons to pascals. ;)

If we hold that 1 Hitler has a value of 6 million dead jews, while 1 Stalin has a value of 20 million total dead people (not of military service)-- There are approximately 3 Hitlers to 1 Stalin conversion rate.

This means that there are approximately 333,333,333.3 femtostalins to one megahitler.

Bear in mind that fast and loose conversions like this is how you crash space probes.
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« Reply #1531 on: January 25, 2016, 11:07:00 pm »

Difficult to quantify. That is like comparing newtons to pascals. ;)

you ever seen how piano string tension is represented?

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« Reply #1532 on: January 26, 2016, 05:11:10 am »

Difficult to quantify. That is like comparing newtons to pascals. ;)

you ever seen how piano string tension is represented?
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« Reply #1533 on: January 26, 2016, 06:53:42 am »

I was really into the "what would happen to the solar system if the sun was instantaneously replaced by a black hole of equal mass including plasma toroid " debate but then it segued into the effects on planetary formation of dark black hole Suns.
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« Reply #1534 on: January 26, 2016, 06:59:27 am »

Difficult to quantify. That is like comparing newtons to pascals. ;)

If we hold that 1 Hitler has a value of 6 million dead jews, while 1 Stalin has a value of 20 million total dead people (not of military service)-- There are approximately 3 Hitlers to 1 Stalin conversion rate.

This means that there are approximately 333,333,333.3 femtostalins to one megahitler.

Bear in mind that fast and loose conversions like this is how you crash space probes.

You're going to be off on the value of Hitlers. He killed 6 million Jews, but he also killed 6 million other "undesirables".
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« Reply #1535 on: January 26, 2016, 07:04:35 am »

but not by much, since Stalin killed another 20 million that were in military service.  Still approx 3:1 ratio hitlers to stalins.

the big thing is that it is a rough approximation to say it is 3:1 when it is really 2.8something to 1.

Thankfully nobody measures things in those units anyway. ;)
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« Reply #1536 on: January 26, 2016, 07:14:15 am »

Guys please. Don't they teach you the international despotic system of weight and measurements in school?
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« Reply #1537 on: January 26, 2016, 07:50:06 am »

Here's a thought: what would happen in a system with an antimatter sun and matter planets? I don't recall there being such a thing as an antiphoton, so would there be low enough matter exchange to avoid chaos?
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« Reply #1538 on: January 26, 2016, 08:08:40 am »

Here's a thought: what would happen in a system with an antimatter sun and matter planets? I don't recall there being such a thing as an antiphoton, so would there be low enough matter exchange to avoid chaos?

Given the amount of energy that would get released for any matter/antimatter interaction (mass involved times c2!), I think we'd be screwed pretty quickly just as soon as any anti-matter solar wind hits us, or (assuming it escaped the same solar-wind fate) the first sun-skimming comet hits the star's outer atmosphere.


One of the big arguments against the possibility of parts of our universe being entirely antimatter equivalents (to try to explain why everything we see appears to be overwhelmingly matter, rather than the 50:50 that you'd perhaps expect got generated from the initial energy-to-mass of the Big Bang) is that we're not seeing massive ribbons of glowing energy from the parts of the universe where the matter-zones and the antimatter-zones 'touch', however tenuously.

I don't think the "anti-sun" system would be anywhere near as destructive than the Proton Earth, Electron Moon situation (which is entirely due to the moon being entirely made of electrons!, ignoring completely the role of the protons), but I suspect it would still be dangerous.  As in a "not as lethal as being 1AU from a supernova, but still as lethal as a hydrogen bomb pressed to your eyeball" kind of level.  But I'm willing to be corrected about this...
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« Reply #1539 on: January 26, 2016, 09:08:14 am »

Here's a thought: what would happen in a system with an antimatter sun and matter planets? I don't recall there being such a thing as an antiphoton, so would there be low enough matter exchange to avoid chaos?

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Is there an antimatter equivalent to light?
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Dave - In some sense it does. There is an antimatter equivalent to a photon. It’s not an antiphoton. If you have two photons you know are in exactly the opposite phase they can cancel each other out. As far as we know the photon is its own antiparticle.
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Anyway, been on the esoteric side of space, all nice and trippy.

Superfluid Vacuum Theory
Holographic Principle
Loop quantum gravity
EP=EPR

Combined, they equal an existence that is spawned from a single electron that is quantumly entangled with itself for yottamillenia.
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« Reply #1540 on: January 26, 2016, 09:38:41 am »

Huuuuuh?
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« Reply #1541 on: February 03, 2016, 06:07:06 pm »

The Duchy of Grand Fenwick is going into space!.

(More or less...)
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« Reply #1542 on: February 03, 2016, 06:33:56 pm »

The issue with backing commercial ventures is that from what I recall the space treaty dictates that any minerals from space must benefit all mankind, which means either the companies have to make a very convincing case, lie through their teeth, or break the treaty.
Isn't the treaty between governments rather than applying to the whole of humanity?

Register HQ in country that did not sign Space Asshole Prevention act

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« Reply #1543 on: February 03, 2016, 06:43:17 pm »

The issue with backing commercial ventures is that from what I recall the space treaty dictates that any minerals from space must benefit all mankind, which means either the companies have to make a very convincing case, lie through their teeth, or break the treaty.
As I understand it, that applies to governments (and Luxembourg is among those ratified) from claiming sovereignty over celestial bodies, but that wouldn't actually stop a company with a space-presence (or a national space-agency?) from using the resources of said bodies.

May even help, with no form of jurisdiction or 'ownership'... if you can get your minerbot onto the body, there's nobody else who can officially complain that you're trespassing on their 'land'.  But you also couldn't complain when another mining company comes along and started its own operation on a body that you don't officially own.  So long as no spacecraft (possession retained by the State, or perhaps now the company, that originally launched it) is actively interfered with by another spacecraft.

But that might be a simplistic reading of it...  The first few test-cases will be interesting, I have no doubt.
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« Reply #1544 on: February 04, 2016, 07:55:34 am »

That asshole statement of benefits of space along with the no nukes in space because "you'll pollute space" (fucking hippies, God how I hate them with white hot passion) are to be revised and corrected the moment we get more space presence.
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