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[Leafsnail]

Mind blast, win by turn 4. Fun and interactive.

Only against an opponent who hurts themselves? I've found it's too slow vs a lot of decks (eg Timber Wolf, Murloc Tidecaller, Living Roots).

[Wiles]

So instead of your regular Tavern Brawl, this week we have a "Heroic" tavern brawl...

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20324471/introducing-heroic-tavern-brawl-10-17-2016

The price of admission is 9.99! Or 1k gold.

I'm not paying ten dollars for one pass at a game mode. If they gave some warning I may have tried to save up 1k gold to try it out.

Worst part is they're taking away one of the better modes for free to play players and giving it to the p2w crowd for the week.

[Arx]

Ugh. I mean, I've disliked almost all of the brawls for the last little while, but this is still irritating.

[Criptfeind]

What an absolute fucking terrible idea.

[frostshotgg]

This is basically a trial of the tournament mode a lot of people have been saying they wanted for a while. If it goes well, we might see more of it in a more formalized form which would be cool. As it is, a lot of people are going to spend a lot of gold and be horribly disappointing when their pet deck gets wiped 0-3 and they just spent 1k gold to buy a pack.

[Darkmere]

It's like they're desperate to piss me off lately.

What an absolute fucking terrible idea.

^^
I'd quote this a few more times if I could.

Who wants to bet the minimum reward for 0-3 is something absolutely pathetic? Coz the best part is the rewards seem only good for people who've been playing the longest and have the biggest collections already.

EDIT: I just saw Brode say 0-3 nets you one pack. So.... wow. Speechless.

[Leafsnail]

https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/JMK5MJ92QKFD1476732816485.jpg

So you need like 5 wins to break even and even then it's kindof questionable.

[Criptfeind]

Literally just play arena then? This is just ladder with arena rewards?

what. the. fuck

[Leafsnail]

That would make a lot more sense and be good IMO, this is arena if it cost 1000 gold to enter and had absolutely horrible rewards.

[Darkmere]

Literally just play arena then? This is just ladder with arena rewards?

what. the. fuck

No, arena isn't this disproportionately shit w/r/t minimum reward/entrance fee.

IIRC, even when aggro shaman was gold-tier, high-level play with it was about a 62% winrate in Legend. So... expected payout with a Tier 1 deck on this event is ~3-4 wins, assuming Tier 1 decks and legend-level players. 3 wins is a 300 gold loss.

They also hid the rewards post behind a click on the announcement page.

I'll just put my tinfoil hat on and say it's designed to drain gold out of player accounts before the next expansion launch.

[ventuswings]

To make participation in this tournament even slightly justifiable, they should have either:

1) make players be able to create decks out of all Standard cards regardless of what cards they have
[for majority of players without complete collection which benefits most from the "jackpot"]

OR

2) give out special cardback reward for reaching 12 wins.
[for super-competitive players, giving legitimate bragging rights for hitting "jackpot" rather than current reward which'll be of little benefit to them unless it's placed right at the expansion launch.]

[frostshotgg]

I think you guys are being unreasonably upset about this. Blizzard's trying a new thing, and it doesn't really come at any cost, except you get 1 fewer free packs for a week and a quest that's obnoxious because you can't do it. You need a 63% win rate for it to pay off, which is definitely reasonably because this is the entire player pool, not just legend skilled players.

[Darkmere]

Eh. it bothers me a bit because they're trying to be sneaky about how poor the rewards are, hiding it being a click-through on the announcement while the big flashy reward page makes it look absurdly rewarding. I'm assuming they'll think people treat it like arenas, where even an 0-3 run isn't that horrible an investment... compared to like 10% of your entry fee.

I also almost exclusively play tavern brawl these days, so that has something to do with it.

[ventuswings]

I think you guys are being unreasonably upset about this. Blizzard's trying a new thing, and it doesn't really come at any cost, except you get 1 fewer free packs for a week and a quest that's obnoxious because you can't do it. You need a 63% win rate for it to pay off, which is definitely reasonably because this is the entire player pool, not just legend skilled players.

I'm actually not outraged at this. Actually think current reward distribution would be fine if they do any of the two above things.

It's just that I fit into first category of players - I am interested in the reward but I do not have enough card pool to stand against strong decks. And if I happen to have collection deep enough to compete legitimately, I'd be more interested in some sort of trophy instead you know?

[ventuswings]

accidental quote instead of edit