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Author Topic: WH40K discussion thread: from Tyran's heart I stab at thee.  (Read 971839 times)

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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6690 on: September 22, 2016, 02:21:34 pm »

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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6691 on: September 22, 2016, 09:03:49 pm »

It occupies both targets for a while

It's not like the Imperium could have dealt with either on their own anyway.

There are Ork-Genestealer broods, though, but they don't tend to do all that well. I think they don't benefit from the WAAAGH field as much, and they just make poor hosts, from what I could tell, for actual breeding, even though they can carry them and be tricked into carrying them alright. Looks like it's usually as a makeshift thing. Orks are just too willing to krump ya for lookin at 'em funny, apparently.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6692 on: September 22, 2016, 09:10:04 pm »

They what.....infect all the spores that Ork generates, which creates the next generation of hybrids? I've seen the Ork Genestealers thing before too, but it doesn't make much sense to me outside of the human reproductive cycle. Orks caring for their "offspring"? Just doesn't quite track.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6693 on: September 22, 2016, 09:17:44 pm »

Yeah, they tend to be isolationist. They infect the Ork, the Ork gives off spores that they created as an infected individual, next generation of Hybrids. They probably form their own mobs and warbands and such, and adapt to Ork tribal society in that way. Like I said it doesn't usually get far in Ork society. But Tyranids always adapt, they can manage to change their strategies slightly to get on well enough to last until a more suitable host arises.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6694 on: September 22, 2016, 10:05:10 pm »

And then the orks figure out how the genestealers operate and keep them around on purpose to call fights to them, instead of having to find the fight.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6695 on: September 23, 2016, 12:40:18 am »

Trouble with Orks is that thanks to the Waaagh!!! field they can sense when something isn't orky and thus exterminate it. It's why Ork chaos cults aren't a thing either.
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« Reply #6696 on: September 23, 2016, 12:48:17 am »

Trouble with Orks is that thanks to the Waaagh!!! field they can sense when something isn't orky and thus exterminate it. It's why Ork chaos cults aren't a thing either.

Well think of it another way... How would a chaos orc differ from an orc? :P
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6697 on: September 23, 2016, 12:51:02 am »

For the sake of Throwback Tfriday, there were in fact Chaos Orks in...second edition, I believe? Khornates. This was back when the Orks were all cockney and not 1/5th Old One heirs.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6698 on: September 23, 2016, 01:19:11 am »

But, like, how do Khornate Orks meaningfully differ from normal Orks, other than not being allowed to be happy?
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6699 on: September 23, 2016, 01:29:55 am »

Are you implying that there was lore in the second edition? Oh, oh no.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6700 on: September 23, 2016, 01:30:04 am »

But, like, how do Khornate Orks meaningfully differ from normal Orks, other than not being allowed to be happy?
There are no Khornate Orks. Gork and Mork have that field of Orkish psychology locked down.

No, it's the Tzeentchian Grots you gotta watch for. Or the Nurglite Snotlings. Slaanesh is obviously nowhere to be found, save in those warbosses who gain a perhaps overfond taste for squig cooked just right, on the carcass of a Warlord Titan, as his boyz loot it for the Big Mek's next Gargant Each meal is a unique experience. And even then it's still not Slaanesh, just an inkling of her influence

But really, the Big Four are a human thing. Slaanesh is the weakest because she's not just a human thing, after all, and there ain't many Eldar to feed off of anymore. She used most of them up just getting there.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6701 on: September 23, 2016, 02:06:32 am »

Am curious about doing a campaign session involving a genestealer cult fighting against a chaos cult both in the underbelly of an imperial city, with both of them trying to slip under the radar of the inquisition.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6702 on: September 23, 2016, 02:21:15 am »

For the sake of Throwback Tfriday, there were in fact Chaos Orks in...second edition, I believe? Khornates. This was back when the Orks were all cockney and not 1/5th Old One heirs.
I think those still happen? It's just that they're few and far between because once one of them starts yelling 'bludd fer da bludd god' the others all pile on him for not being orky enuff.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6703 on: September 23, 2016, 04:58:59 am »

Are you implying that there was lore in the second edition? Oh, oh no.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6704 on: September 23, 2016, 11:08:34 am »

Are you implying that there was lore in the second edition? Oh, oh no.
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Fun lore, too. Orks used to be a shit ton more fun in the Rogue Trader days. Now it's all just spikes, meanness and cockney.
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