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Author Topic: WH40K discussion thread: from Tyran's heart I stab at thee.  (Read 965531 times)

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Re: WH40K discussion thread: from Tyran's heart I stab at thee.
« Reply #12240 on: August 22, 2023, 10:56:30 am »

Are these the beetle dudes?

Yeah that's them. Towards the end of the novel they reveal they've been serving as slaves under false pretences, their seeming subjugation just allows them to bide their time for the greatest of slaughters, and afterwards they'll hide and let others come and build a new Khorne world above them, allow another champion to find and enslave them and rinse and repeat for the rest of time.
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« Reply #12241 on: August 22, 2023, 12:44:09 pm »

Deathwatch beetles
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« Reply #12242 on: August 24, 2023, 07:04:23 am »

Yeah that's them. Towards the end of the novel they reveal they've been serving as slaves under false pretences, their seeming subjugation just allows them to bide their time for the greatest of slaughters, and afterwards they'll hide and let others come and build a new Khorne world above them, allow another champion to find and enslave them and rinse and repeat for the rest of time.
The time is not to be lost! Battle BEETLES! BEETLES we are the blood god's! We know our duty. The enemy is at our floor. We will ascend upon the enemy.
We have placed numerous tunnels, allowing for our race, as Blood Beetles to launch multiple devastating offensive deep strikes! The Codex Coleoptera names this maneuver DUNG VOLCANO. It is the ENEMY that will taste BLOOD and defeat

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« Reply #12243 on: September 03, 2023, 06:49:52 am »

So I've been getting into some of the minis for this because it's been a long time want of mine to have a few of them as display pieces (man I wish they'd do something like 1/35 scale stuff for display only) and I like painting these in general so it's a nice pastime. I've gotten some starter sets so I can maybe play a quick game with folks too but that's just a vague possibility for the most part.

So far I've bought shit directly from the GW webstore because we don't really have any regular stores in my country and the closest one I can think of is some 8 hours drive away in Croatia. Now the prices were a bit steep but I wasn't planning on buying entire armies of these things so I didn't mind too much. That was until I found other discount retailers online which had regular prices some 20+ % lower than what GW was asking for. Except there's a catch, since my country falls into the rest of the world category and not the general EU region they aren't allowed by GW to ship to it.

So I'm wondering if you guys know any good online stores that don't ask an arm and a leg and actually offer worldwide shipping, or at the very least shipping to the shittier parts of Europe like Bosnia?
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« Reply #12244 on: September 03, 2023, 07:02:04 am »

Aren't there services online that offer to ship stuff to you from stores like that? Not sure if it'd still come out much cheaper and how much you trust these, but that could be an option. Or just ask an online friend who lives there to help you out, if that's possible.

Or get a 3D printer but that would have a high upfront cost, not to mention HIGHLY ILLEGAL CITIZEN, TO THE SERVITOR PITS WITH YOU.
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« Reply #12245 on: September 03, 2023, 11:03:43 am »

Is second hand like Ebay an option?
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« Reply #12246 on: September 03, 2023, 12:44:27 pm »

3d printing isn't an option due to space, as I'm kinda low on that already, cramming in a printer in a 3x3 room is a bit of a tall ask at this point. And second hand would be an option but I'm mainly looking at some of the new releases like the new Lictor models that look super nice.
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« Reply #12247 on: September 14, 2023, 08:47:58 am »

Apologies for the low effort post but:

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« Reply #12248 on: September 14, 2023, 07:14:20 pm »

Much like the CP2077 memes, the Mechanicus memes never fail to amuse me. That might be the hardest hitting / best performed paragraph ever penned for 40k. I'd be interested to hear from contenders.
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« Reply #12249 on: September 15, 2023, 07:41:02 am »

Much like the CP2077 memes, the Mechanicus memes never fail to amuse me. That might be the hardest hitting / best performed paragraph ever penned for 40k. I'd be interested to hear from contenders.
The exterminatus one is pretty close

Apologies for the low effort post but:

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« Reply #12250 on: September 30, 2023, 04:58:47 pm »

Meta and Bloomberg AIs were trained on texts including pirated Black Library novels

Oh my god I can't believe it but I'm praying for GAW to unleash their legal department upon facebook

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« Reply #12251 on: September 30, 2023, 05:06:13 pm »

We must feed them more
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« Reply #12252 on: September 30, 2023, 06:34:41 pm »

The only way they could fuck up more is by training their AI on pirated nintendo content

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« Reply #12253 on: September 30, 2023, 06:45:43 pm »

AI crawling has come into the spotlight more and more, and I think with the Actor's/Writer's Union strikes we're slowly moving the zeitgeist away from killer HAL5000s and toward AI companies stealing and profiting off the intellectual works of authors.

Without a doubt the pirated material is a problem, however would it be more practical if the company had purchaused a copy of the library and fed it in?  Fan-made derivatives are essentially people reading the novels and creating their own extensions.  Even if you had it remove all the copywritten material, a robot is essentially using the same logic.  Writting a basic story is formulaic, especially when it doesnt have to be standout.  Netflix is a great example of stamped-out material.  Not bad, not great - very predictable and formulaic in its design.

Part of 'art' is that it belongs to the public once it is made public.  Whatever the author's original intentions were, it's now something the everyone to interpret.

And aside from that the large companies getting into ai generate so much money that whatever they settle for is a drop in the bucket, especially if they can go on and use this material.
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« Reply #12254 on: September 30, 2023, 07:14:17 pm »

AI crawling has come into the spotlight more and more, and I think with the Actor's/Writer's Union strikes we're slowly moving the zeitgeist away from killer HAL5000s and toward AI companies stealing and profiting off the intellectual works of authors.

Without a doubt the pirated material is a problem, however would it be more practical if the company had purchaused a copy of the library and fed it in?  Fan-made derivatives are essentially people reading the novels and creating their own extensions.  Even if you had it remove all the copywritten material, a robot is essentially using the same logic.  Writting a basic story is formulaic, especially when it doesnt have to be standout.  Netflix is a great example of stamped-out material.  Not bad, not great - very predictable and formulaic in its design.

Part of 'art' is that it belongs to the public once it is made public.  Whatever the author's original intentions were, it's now something the everyone to interpret.

And aside from that the large companies getting into ai generate so much money that whatever they settle for is a drop in the bucket, especially if they can go on and use this material.
I think it's a bit different when you're taking someone else's thing and then reproducing it in some fashion for commercial intents. E.g. some companies don't mind if you make fanfics, mods or art of their IP just as long as you don't try commercialise it. GW in this regard is inconsistent, because they're happy with people making fanfics, models & fanart of 40k but not unlicensed animations or games.

What is the issue here is not about whether they pirated or legally purchased the books they fed into the AI though. What matters is that they're producing a commercial product using GW IP without any commercial license. A similar comparison can be made to how movies using book sources, TV shows making parodies, DJs making remixes can all substantially alter the original source in totally transformative ways and yet still fall afoul of copyright issues unless they get a proper license agreement with the rights holders.

Copyright law is its own mess of nonsense, what with copyright favouring the rights holders over the rights of the creators to the ludicrous extent that companies will keep defending their claim to the author's work for the author's so called benefit long after the author has died... But that's another issue entirely.

Really though I am just hype for lawyerbowl between extremely litigious, extremely greedy companies. If they really go at it it'll be a scenario where whether the demon or the monster bleeds, the public wins
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