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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1468022 times)

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #20055 on: June 24, 2016, 03:13:28 pm »

Of course you can be rich and successful. All you need is a small loan of one million dollars.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #20056 on: June 24, 2016, 03:20:27 pm »

How to get rich:
Step 1: Have money

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #20057 on: June 24, 2016, 03:33:19 pm »

How to get rich:
Step 1: Have money
Make sure that you have very rich ancestors, preferably bankers from 16th-19th centuries. Then, with some work done, you can easily show those very hard-working Rothschilds and Rockefellers who's the boss. :P
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #20058 on: June 24, 2016, 05:30:06 pm »

Equality of opportunity, not results. Classes aren't so stratified that high achievers cant move up if they're smart, dedicated, and lucky.

Exactly. Equality of results is impossible (humans being human), so equality of opportunity is the best anyone can get. The thing is, you really have to work at it to get anywhere, plus you need to be lucky...
Very very lucky.  But, I reckon that little detail is glossed over heavily, if even mentioned.  Also reckon that the average human tend to be poor gamblers.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #20059 on: June 24, 2016, 05:35:28 pm »

wrong poitics thread.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #20060 on: June 24, 2016, 06:02:20 pm »

More than 80% of income tax comes from the top 20% and the top 1% pays almost half of that.

So you are saying that the tax that is specifically supposed to fall mostly on the rich mostly falls on the rich?

In other news, most payroll taxes are paid by people with jobs.  Most excise taxes are paid by people who consume taxed items.  Most capital gains taxes are paid by people with financial assets.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #20061 on: June 24, 2016, 06:06:08 pm »

His point is that the myth that the rich don't pay any taxes is just that.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #20062 on: June 24, 2016, 06:18:08 pm »

His alleged point is completely unsupported by what he said.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #20063 on: June 24, 2016, 06:20:42 pm »

His point is that the myth that the rich don't pay any taxes is just that.
Of course it is? There's only a few that would say otherwise, really, save in hyperbole. S'just not what most folks that are rumbling about rich folks and taxes are complaining about...
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #20064 on: June 24, 2016, 06:28:38 pm »

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #20065 on: June 24, 2016, 06:30:01 pm »

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #20066 on: June 24, 2016, 08:10:39 pm »

His point is that the myth that the rich don't pay any taxes is just that.
Of course it is? There's only a few that would say otherwise, really, save in hyperbole. S'just not what most folks that are rumbling about rich folks and taxes are complaining about...
what the fuk are tax havens for?
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #20067 on: June 24, 2016, 08:23:31 pm »

His point is that the myth that the rich don't pay any taxes is just that.
Of course it is? There's only a few that would say otherwise, really, save in hyperbole. S'just not what most folks that are rumbling about rich folks and taxes are complaining about...
what the fuk are tax havens for?
Keeping the taxes safe from all the people that might abuse them, obviously.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #20068 on: June 24, 2016, 08:28:27 pm »

what the fuk are tax havens for?
Avoiding paying as much as they should be by law, mostly. Do note that "not as much" does not mean "not any".
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #20069 on: June 24, 2016, 08:30:07 pm »

Let us just take a moment to admire how far these goalposts have moved.

I believe that those most able to bear the burden should bear most of the burden. However, people that I've asked, of all income levels, have this bizarre idea that "higher wage = higher tax" is just punishing people for financial success.

what the fuk are tax havens for?
Avoiding paying as much as they should be by law, mostly. Do note that "not as much" does not mean "not any".

Yes, some rich people do pay more then zero dollars in taxes.
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