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I am religious and believe in free will

70 (27.6%)

I am religious and do not believe in free will

10 (3.9%)

I am not religious and believe in free will

113 (44.5%)

I am not religious and do not believe in free will

61 (24%)

Total Members Voted: 249

[That Wolf]

If religion can cause people to do things that are against their own moral inhibitions.

The only law that can govern a man is that which he places upon himself.

[UXLZ]

The scary implication is that it's something someone may not want to do, personally, but feel obligated to.

[Arx]

That's one of the ten commandments, and one of the better-known verses in the Bible. Most Christians would (I hope) immediately recognise it. They don't really need to include chapter and verse.

That's Him speaking specifically to the Israelites (or whatever they were, I don't know bible-lore very well.)

Yes, but they still apply to Christians. (and everyone else, but that's another matter)

That's not necessarily true. You can make a strong Biblical case for it not even applying to Christians.

[That Wolf]

Arx are you open to reading the Bhagavad gita?
Its a good read, if you are good at reading alot of it makes sense.

[Magistrum]

That's one of the ten commandments, and one of the better-known verses in the Bible. Most Christians would (I hope) immediately recognise it. They don't really need to include chapter and verse.

That's Him speaking specifically to the Israelites (or whatever they were, I don't know bible-lore very well.)

Yes, but they still apply to Christians. (and everyone else, but that's another matter)

That's not necessarily true. You can make a strong Biblical case for it not even applying to Christians.

I would like to point out that the whole "applies to christians too" is true, but not for the reason you may think.
Christianity is heavily dependent on god's personality, and is almost devoid of rules. Christians are not supposed to follow the old commandments because it's stated that Christ is the end of law, but if god has made such commandment before it means that he despises the worshiping of other god's.
It's also stated Jahwe (Or Jehova or Yahweh or however you call the bible's god) is a Jealous god, since it's part of his personality and christians want to make god happy then worshiping other gods is wrong, because Jahwe don't like it.

[Helgoland]

Isn't there a bit in the Seven Laws of Noah that forbids idolatry?

[Sheb]

What is that thing about Jesus being the "end of the Law"? I'm fairly certain it says the exact opposite, and that the basis for disregarding much of the ancient testaments comes from a passage in the Acts, where a group of Church elders state that gentiles converted to Christianity only have to respect a few laws.

[MaximumZero]

I've always kind of wondered: if the abrahamic god (jehovah, yahweh, etc.) is a jealous god, and the very first commandment is "thou shalt have no other gods before me," does that mean that the abrahamic canon contains other gods?

[Helgoland]

We had that already: Judaism originally was monolatrous, not monotheistic. It explains some of the weirdness in Exodus as well.

[MaximumZero]

Fair enough. Just got out of bed, still bleary brained.

[Arx]

Arx are you open to reading the Bhagavad gita?
Its a good read, if you are good at reading alot of it makes sense.

That's the Hindu holy text, yes?

I am open to that. Do you recommend it (and on what basis)?

[Frumple]

One of the holy texts, yes. More or less. To a certain extent, it's more like a religiously inclined Iliad or somethin'. Just, uh. Part of an epic poem that's several times the iliad's length.

I'd recommend most of the hindu holy texts, honestly, on the basis that a lot of them are beautiful writings that contain many truths, regardless of whether you agree with the overall metaphysical assumptions. They're worth reading just to read, basically.

[Arx]

...I've actually read a summary* of that, now I look it up. I should definitely read it.

*Thicker than most novels, but...

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

i'm curious now, are there other gods that exist in Christianity that just aren't higher than God himself?

[USEC_OFFICER]

Nope. Christianity is definitely 100% monotheistic and has always been that way.