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What's your opinion on free will?

I am religious and believe in free will
- 70 (27.6%)
I am religious and do not believe in free will
- 10 (3.9%)
I am not religious and believe in free will
- 113 (44.5%)
I am not religious and do not believe in free will
- 61 (24%)

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Author Topic: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion  (Read 582379 times)

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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #675 on: February 06, 2015, 10:53:12 pm »

And those judged last will have the unfair advantage of having been around while god was visibly doing something and therefore automatically having faith as a direct result.

If by 'last' you mean '500th and onward', possibly.

Also, there's a difference between knowing something to be real and having 'faith' in it.
If I saw God, I would believe in It, but I wouldn't have 'faith'. My first thought would be that It was misrepresented in whatever texts there were about it. If it was represented correctly, then I would be absolutely terrified of It.

You can't know something to be real and not believe it to be real. If you don't believe its real than you're not sure and therefore you just think it may be real, not know it's real.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #676 on: February 06, 2015, 10:57:35 pm »

And those judged last will have the unfair advantage of having been around while god was visibly doing something and therefore automatically having faith as a direct result.

If by 'last' you mean '500th and onward', possibly.

Also, there's a difference between knowing something to be real and having 'faith' in it.
If I saw God, I would believe in It, but I wouldn't have 'faith'. My first thought would be that It was misrepresented in whatever texts there were about it. If it was represented correctly, then I would be absolutely terrified of It.

You can't know something to be real and not believe it to be real. If you don't believe its real than you're not sure and therefore you just think it may be real, not know it's real.

You... You have completely misunderstood what I was saying. There's a difference between faith and belief, especially in a religious context, please understand that.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #677 on: February 06, 2015, 11:01:40 pm »

There's no reason God, being omnipotent, couldn't just judge everyone in a separate room at the same time.  I'm picturing each person suddenly finding themself in a comfortable office, with a pristine bookcase and a giant mahogany desk.  Behind the desk is a expensive, burning, chair.  God passes judgement through the chair (hopefully explaining some of the mysteries of life and religion) before teleporting the deceased to their final destination.

No reason God couldn't handle all those conversations at once...  He supposedly listens to probably thousands of prayers at any given moment.

Also, there's a difference between knowing something to be real and having 'faith' in it.
If I saw God, I would believe in It, but I wouldn't have 'faith'. My first thought would be that It was misrepresented in whatever texts there were about it. If it was represented correctly, then I would be absolutely terrified of It.
Quoted for truth.  The Christian God is literally scarier than Cthulhu.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #678 on: February 06, 2015, 11:10:09 pm »

Better term than faith: Trust?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #679 on: February 06, 2015, 11:16:10 pm »

I think that we all end up being judged by God at the same time, yet individually. Why couldnt He talk to everyone at the same time? Saying that he cant is limiting him.

But, heck, what do I know? Its not like the Bible is explicit about it....
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #680 on: February 06, 2015, 11:18:06 pm »

If nothing else, relativistic time differences could be used to lower waiting times  :P.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #681 on: February 06, 2015, 11:19:07 pm »

Or time might not exist outside our universe.......
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #682 on: February 06, 2015, 11:21:06 pm »

I believe we were talking about Islamic stuff? Though I think I remember hearing that there were a lot of similarities between the Islamic faith and the Christian one.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #683 on: February 06, 2015, 11:23:02 pm »

I believe we were talking about Islamic stuff? Though I think I remember hearing that there were a lot of similarities between the Islamic faith and the Christian one.
Well considering that Islam is just another add on to the Abrahamic religious stuff there rightfully are a lot of similarities
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #684 on: February 06, 2015, 11:26:22 pm »

There's no reason God, being omnipotent, couldn't just judge everyone in a separate room at the same time.  I'm picturing each person suddenly finding themself in a comfortable office, with a pristine bookcase and a giant mahogany desk.  Behind the desk is a expensive, burning, chair.  God passes judgement through the chair (hopefully explaining some of the mysteries of life and religion) before teleporting the deceased to their final destination.

No reason God couldn't handle all those conversations at once...  He supposedly listens to probably thousands of prayers at any given moment.

Also, there's a difference between knowing something to be real and having 'faith' in it.
If I saw God, I would believe in It, but I wouldn't have 'faith'. My first thought would be that It was misrepresented in whatever texts there were about it. If it was represented correctly, then I would be absolutely terrified of It.
Quoted for truth.  The Christian God is literally scarier than Cthulhu.
If we go for a literal description, you can't really see God, because he's a Word :P

Are you terrified of words?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #685 on: February 06, 2015, 11:26:36 pm »

I believe we were talking about Islamic stuff? Though I think I remember hearing that there were a lot of similarities between the Islamic faith and the Christian one.
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No.

The beliefs that make up Christianity(Namely the Divinity of Jesus, the Trinitarian model, the physical ressurection of Jesus) just arent there in Islam. So, yeah...
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #686 on: February 06, 2015, 11:27:32 pm »

I said that there were a lot of similarities, not that there weren't a lot of differences.

My lord, everyone seems to be misinterpreting my words today.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #687 on: February 06, 2015, 11:28:20 pm »

I said that there were a lot of similarities, not that there weren't a lot of differences.

My lord, everyone seems to be misinterpreting my words today.
Sorry, I just dont see that many similarities, thats all.
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #688 on: February 06, 2015, 11:37:11 pm »

So an epilepsy patient gets his callosum fully severed. The do the normal tests and begin to notice one side thinks differently to the other. Thats fine, but what if one has evil thoughts, and the other is a kind loving thinker.

Does this body suddenly have two souls? And both are judged differently or are they judged as a whole?
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Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« Reply #689 on: February 06, 2015, 11:53:13 pm »

I would think that would be a spiritual problem that can be fixed. But if he died, he would probably be judged based on his previous life, not the duel personality one.
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