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Author Topic: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!  (Read 803141 times)

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1005 on: May 04, 2015, 03:44:47 am »

Yah, how the characters are always freezing seems laughable, but maybe that's just nordic me speaking. After all, I've been bicycling to work in -30 Celcius without dying or something.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1006 on: May 04, 2015, 04:38:03 am »

It would be nice if you could get warm from moving. Maybe tie it to the stamina system?
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1007 on: May 04, 2015, 04:52:37 am »

Is there already a bionic for warming you up when you are cold? If there isn't, there should be one. Since there are those other temperature regulation ones already anyway.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1008 on: May 04, 2015, 04:59:36 am »

Is there already a bionic for warming you up when you are cold? If there isn't, there should be one. Since there are those other temperature regulation ones already anyway.

I think there's something like sub-dermal heating or somesuch. Or at least there was ages ago if I'm remembering one of Aavak's videos properly.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1009 on: May 04, 2015, 05:17:14 am »

Internal Climate Control. Invaluable to go down ice labs.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1010 on: May 04, 2015, 06:58:58 am »

or being inside a building should offer some increase in heta, theres quite a few ideas on this thread for now try and get something to cover everything that isnt to bulky
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1011 on: May 04, 2015, 07:50:02 am »

Personally when I go out into the freezing snow with a snowjacket, gloves, and winter boots IRL, I'm not a shivering helpless mess of zombie-bait within minutes, or even a few hours if I have a warm hat on. It's really annoying ingame to be constantly spammed with YOUR PINKY FEELS CHILLY or YOUR TOES ARE SOLID ICE BECAUSE YOU STEPPED ON A SNOW IN HEAVY BOOTS
Just throwing the BS flag on this one, since you *would* be a helpless mess without pants on.

And while I do agree somewhat with the sentiment, there's nothing in the lore (AFAIK anyway) that says our character isn't a new arrival to the area, meaning there's no reason to assume they're acclimated.

I'm no Russian, and although I live and was born in South Florida, I have also lived many other places, including Syracuse NY, and Ft. Lost-in-the-woods in Mo during the '09-'10 winter (lowest annual avg temp for both years for the area due to the lows and how long they stayed low). The temperature system may not be quite so real-to-life as it could be, but it's pretty damn close compared to almost any other game out there.
Additionally, I think a lot of people complaining haven't experienced exposure, (average US citizen has never gone more than a day without power, much less some form of shelter) and don't understand how hard it can hit.

Personally, I feel the temperature system is just fine, though I'm not expecting to maintain low encumbrance and still avoid he effects of the cold. If my Bad Day Archer can survive over an hour with nothing more than a blanket, after at least 10 minutes with only a wet towel, and still not have frostbite, then the system definitely isn't too harsh. (eventually ran out of corners to hide behind :P)
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1012 on: May 04, 2015, 08:06:31 am »

The hard part about exposure is sleeping, as that will kill you without sufficient precautions. Other tough thing is getting your clothes wet, since, well, that will kill you.

However, having your fingers freeze while doing a two-hour stroll in a city at a couple of degrees over freezing point is quite silly. It might be a bit nippy, but not the degree portrayed by the game. I think the idea behind the freezing/oh-god-I'm-melting system is great. It just needs a little fine tuning, that is all.

Hence why I suggested the tropical/arctic traits for a start.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1013 on: May 04, 2015, 08:10:53 am »

Internal Climate ControlFursuits. Invaluable to go down ice labs.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1014 on: May 04, 2015, 08:13:31 am »

Speaking of, has anyone tried armouring up a fursuit yet? It sounds like it might be frightfully OP.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1015 on: May 04, 2015, 08:22:34 am »

Are you certain to keep your hands free when it's cold? Lots of clothes have pockets to keep your hand warm.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1016 on: May 04, 2015, 10:09:57 am »

Speaking of, has anyone tried armouring up a fursuit yet? It sounds like it might be frightfully OP.

Adding more bulk to the bulk seems counterproductive. Leather and kevlar both add decent amounts of encumbrance, and on a suit like that that covers everything, the encumbrance will cover everything.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1017 on: May 04, 2015, 11:11:30 am »

Speaking of, has anyone tried armouring up a fursuit yet? It sounds like it might be frightfully OP.

Adding more bulk to the bulk seems counterproductive. Leather and kevlar both add decent amounts of encumbrance, and on a suit like that that covers everything, the encumbrance will cover everything.

The trade off is leather repair versus first aid. Of course you're also trading off dps for leather repair as well. In a case of being surrounded it might be worth it.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1018 on: May 04, 2015, 12:23:09 pm »

Solution: make furry power armor.


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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1019 on: May 04, 2015, 12:30:59 pm »

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