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Author Topic: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)  (Read 198378 times)

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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1185 on: December 20, 2016, 03:35:34 pm »

I know Britian has done the brexit and all, but they aren't technically exited from the EU yet, I don't think.
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« Reply #1186 on: December 20, 2016, 03:38:24 pm »

That was a "Europe in general, not European Union" comment, if that's what you were commenting about.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1187 on: December 20, 2016, 03:56:05 pm »

Some Turkish media are now blaming the assassination of the Russian ambassador on the Gülen movement, supported by the CIA.
This seems very unlikely. The shooter, a 22-year old member of the Turkish police, had been suspended from his duties after the coup attempt on accusation of having ties to the FETO (Gülen movement), but he was cleared and reinstated. This would not have happened if the suspicions had been serious.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/aanslag-in-ankara-daar-moet-gulen-van-weten~a4437577/
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« Reply #1188 on: December 20, 2016, 04:03:55 pm »

Some Turkish media are now blaming the assassination of the Russian ambassador on the Gülen movement, supported by the CIA.
This seems very unlikely. The shooter, a 22-year old member of the Turkish police, had been suspended from his duties after the coup attempt on accusation of having ties to the FETO (Gülen movement), but he was cleared and reinstated. This would not have happened if the suspicions had been serious.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/aanslag-in-ankara-daar-moet-gulen-van-weten~a4437577/

Not surprised that some are blaming it on that over flimsy evidence. State media are also saying that the attacker has al-quaeda books in his home, but singular assasinations aren't part of their playbook. Al-Qaeda isn't known for targeted assasinations.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1189 on: December 20, 2016, 04:08:34 pm »

It'll be interesting to see who the blame gets put on in the end.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1190 on: December 20, 2016, 04:16:59 pm »

Why not both?
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1191 on: December 20, 2016, 04:38:12 pm »

Because they aren't the same thing? Though public opinion and what the state says could certainly differ.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1192 on: December 20, 2016, 06:05:29 pm »

Whomever allows them to spin it to their advantage best in terms of public face/propaganda.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1193 on: December 20, 2016, 10:57:19 pm »

Some Turkish media are now blaming the assassination of the Russian ambassador on the Gülen movement, supported by the CIA.
This seems very unlikely. The shooter, a 22-year old member of the Turkish police, had been suspended from his duties after the coup attempt on accusation of having ties to the FETO (Gülen movement), but he was cleared and reinstated. This would not have happened if the suspicions had been serious.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/aanslag-in-ankara-daar-moet-gulen-van-weten~a4437577/
the "Gülen" stuff reminds me of the "anti revolutionary" that always happens in revolutions. its the nonexistent or distant other to blame everything on. always looks ludicrous in hindsight. but no one dares challenge comrade Erdogan.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1194 on: December 20, 2016, 11:30:36 pm »

Some Turkish media are now blaming the assassination of the Russian ambassador on the Gülen movement, supported by the CIA.
This seems very unlikely. The shooter, a 22-year old member of the Turkish police, had been suspended from his duties after the coup attempt on accusation of having ties to the FETO (Gülen movement), but he was cleared and reinstated. This would not have happened if the suspicions had been serious.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/aanslag-in-ankara-daar-moet-gulen-van-weten~a4437577/
the "Gülen" stuff reminds me of the "anti revolutionary" that always happens in revolutions. its the nonexistent or distant other to blame everything on. always looks ludicrous in hindsight. but no one dares challenge comrade Erdogan.
Of course not.  That would make you a Gülenist, and that's the last thing you want to be.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1195 on: December 20, 2016, 11:59:57 pm »

In the meantime, the Internet continues to manufacture memes about the ambassador tragedy:

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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1196 on: December 21, 2016, 12:03:21 am »

After ebola-chan, I decided to just never be surprised again.
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« Reply #1197 on: December 21, 2016, 12:13:54 am »

the M&B one was pretty good i have to say.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1198 on: December 21, 2016, 12:58:50 am »

Continues? All of these were on 4chan on first day, and that's the wrong pistol, IIRC, so those are most proably from /pol/ or some other shitty board, since /k/ had a raging shitstorm about what he used and their version is fixed. The actual gun was most proably some variant of Canik TP9, the gun that is very commonly used by Turkish police.
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Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« Reply #1199 on: December 21, 2016, 01:02:39 am »

Yes it looks like a Walther or its copy to me too. Turkey has very extensive small arms industry of its own, though most products are license copies of western products.
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