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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16875 on: April 18, 2016, 04:20:34 am »

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Less versatile stuff should be more powerful in their niche to compensate.

Less consistent stuff (such as having a single massive die rather than several smaller ones) should be more powerful to compensate.

Weapons that autolevel by increasing stat bonuses (so basically all autoleveling weapons in existence) are versatile (stats have more applications than just damage).

Weapons that autolevel by increasing dice count (what Fish wants 6AR's weapon to be) aren't as versatile but are more consistent (the more dice you have, the more likely you are to roll a mid number rather than something very high or low).

Weapons that autolevel by increasing die size (what Murdoc wants Haruka's weapon to be) aren't as versatile, and aren't as consistent (they'd only raise the innate maximum damage, not the minimum).

Fish wants (2+Level)d2 as 6AR's weapon damage. That means it gains 1.5 damage per Level, compared to the 1 STR per Level of Mio's Gauntlets. The damage is also far more centered that that of Mio's Gauntlets.

Is that acceptable? Too powerful? Too weak?
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16876 on: April 18, 2016, 04:29:55 am »

You realise Mio's gauntlets increase damage die by level too, right?

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« Reply #16877 on: April 18, 2016, 04:42:48 am »

You realise Mio's gauntlets increase damage die by level too, right?
No I did not, it wasn't in their sheet description as far as I know. So it increases both Dice Size and STR Bonus? In that case, Fish's proposal of +1d2 per Level is definitely too low.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16878 on: April 18, 2016, 04:45:11 am »

It is not in their sheet.
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« Reply #16879 on: April 18, 2016, 04:46:12 am »

You realise Mio's gauntlets increase damage die by level too, right?
No I did not, it wasn't in their sheet description as far as I know. So it increases both Dice Size and STR Bonus? In that case, Fish's proposal of +1d2 per Level is definitely too low.
Yeah. All levelling weapons increase damage die. That was the main reason to HAVE levelling weapons. Otherwise you could just discard your current weapon and get a new one from loot or crafting.

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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16880 on: April 18, 2016, 04:47:03 am »

By how much/level?
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« Reply #16881 on: April 18, 2016, 04:48:06 am »

Yeah. All levelling weapons increase damage die. That was the main reason to HAVE levelling weapons. Otherwise you could just discard your current weapon and get a new one from loot or crafting.
Oh, I thought it was only the stat bonus that got raised.
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16882 on: April 18, 2016, 04:48:37 am »

Well, Mio's went something like this:
L1: 1d8
L2: 1d10
L3: 1d12
L4: 1d14
L5: 1d16
L6: 1d18

That stat bonus was gained from an upgrade slot.

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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16883 on: April 18, 2016, 04:49:48 am »

Mhm.

So (3+level)d2 then.

And do I actually get upgrade slots/level?
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« Reply #16884 on: April 18, 2016, 04:51:56 am »

So (3+level)d2 then.
Raising the base damage won't help. Gauntlets get +2 damage on average (specifically, +2 Die Size, +1 STR Bonus) versus your +1.5 damage.
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« Reply #16885 on: April 18, 2016, 04:53:39 am »

Yeah, that +stat is an upgrade slot.  Which I will upgrade the lightsaber to have, then.
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« Reply #16886 on: April 18, 2016, 04:54:48 am »

And do I actually get upgrade slots/level?
I don't believe so. Main drawback of autoleveling weapons is specifically that you can't customize and upgrade them to your preferences. Hero Weapons only gain upgrades through a Perk, and that requires them to burn Action Points or Perk Slots to get them.
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« Reply #16887 on: April 18, 2016, 04:55:59 am »

Well.  Guess I could make it another gear item.
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« Reply #16888 on: April 18, 2016, 05:03:09 am »

For starters, all their slots including their secondary, and armor slots, are empty. So you've got plenty of options for another item, not to mention being able to get a second auto-leveling item.

Elf, what are the rules for autoleveling Armor?
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Re: Trespassers of the Multiverse: Gaiden [OOC] Compleation is a drop away...
« Reply #16889 on: April 18, 2016, 05:04:49 am »

Armor increases at a rate of 1 RES per level.
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