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[Aidan Pryde]

Hello,

I'm sorry I just had question related to the Fortress Defense Mod.  I've been using and it's a great mod, thank you very much!  I've been messing with the raws lately to make all the enemies butcherable except the Nightwings and other more challenging ones.  Anyway, I edited the ethics to allow eating and making totems out of sapient creatures, however my dwarves still won't butcher for example the frogmen.

To fix this I tried removing the [CAN_LEARN] token from them.  That seemed to make it work just fine.  However, before I do that to continue with the game, I wanted to make sure that somebody didn't know of any problems that might crop up like an inability to lay siege or something.  Thank you for your help!

[darkflagrance]

When you remove [CAN_LEARN] from a species, the species is prevented from gaining levels in skills like, for example, Fighting, Engraving, Dodging, etc. So if you remove [CAN_LEARN] from Fortress Defense enemies, you will never fight legendary enemies, and every grunt you kill will be the equivalent of a fresh recruit.

Changing the ethics for your dwarven civilization would have also circumvented the problem of dwarves refusing to eat sentient creatures. The problem is that ethics changes only apply when a new world is created. Once a civilizations ethics have been set for a generated world, further changes to their ethics will not actually alter their in-game behavior. So, if you generate a new world with the changes to ethics you implemented, your new dwarves will be happy to eat frogmen and other sentient beings.

[Aidan Pryde]

Hmm, that's what I thought.

Thank you for the information!

[rephikul]

is it intentional for some races to have pet tags?

[darkflagrance]

is it intentional for some races to have pet tags?

I was kinda hoping tigermen might be tamable with them, but the tags don't actually seem to do anything.

[darkflagrance]

I've done a preliminary evaluation of the changes in the new version of DF, and I think the only changes I will need to make to this mod are to give    [NO_DRINK][NO_EAT] to all of the creatures in the mod.

However, I would be wary of playing the current version of DF due to such bugs as kobold mass extinction due to starving to death in less than a decade of world gen.

I will also make these updates to the Intensifying Mod files. Of course, anyone is free to add the tags to the creatures him or herself without needing to download a new version.

Edit: new files uploaded. The Fortress Defense Version linked from the Intensifying Mod has also been updated for the new version.

All Fortress Defense files are back-compatible with 0.31.18

[SalmonGod]

Just found a tigermen civ named The Brilliant Slaughter.  On the other side of the world is a human civ named The Nation of Hugs.  Freaking amazing 

[kerlc]

i was attacked by tigermen after the first year. due to my walls i was safe, until i tried lowering the bridge to lure them to my traps. what followed was a massacre.
fortunately 3 of my people survived, 1 of them was berserk. the poor tigermen bastards.

the berserk one survived, killed the remaining tigermen in the process and then drowned.

[rephikul]

if i'm not mistaken even berserk people follow civilian burrow alerts so you probably could have hung onto him until the next immigrant wave.

[darkflagrance]

I don't think berserkers are suicidal either - he might have died due to dodging an attack into the wrong tile.

[kerlc]

I don't think berserkers are suicidal either - he might have died due to dodging an attack into the wrong tile.

yes, he dodged an attack of my own traps! but whatever, got the place up and running again.

oh, yeah, under siege by like 5 different races. no, 4. the goblins were massacred by the frogmen.

[Kogut]

Is it possible to make sieges cooperating? Now it is typical to have multiple sieges at the same time, everybody killing everybody. My military is sometimes used only as haulers.

[darkflagrance]

Is it possible to make sieges cooperating? Now it is typical to have multiple sieges at the same time, everybody killing everybody. My military is sometimes used only as haulers.

I think the problem has to do with an as yet unresolved bug with how historical/fortress mode allegiances are handled.

However, I am trying to find a stop-gap solution in the meantime.

[Kogut]

Main problem is with multiple sieges in the same time - is it moddable to have siege-month-siege-month-siege instead of 3_months-3_sieges?

[darkflagrance]

Main problem is with multiple sieges in the same time - is it moddable to have siege-month-siege-month-siege instead of 3_months-3_sieges?

Not really; the most that can be done is restricting the seasons in which enemy sieges arrive so that only one siege max arrives per season.

Actually, it would be trivial to convert Fortress Defense into this kind of mod; I'd probably go about it by keeping Tigermen, Hellfire Imps, Blendecs, and Nagas for the four seasons, one each. One could also use Elephants, Warwolves, Imps, and Nightwings instead if the aforementioned four aren't challenging enough. Goblins might randomly crash the party but oh well.