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[Toady One]

The thirteenth one has been posted.

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The transcripts by mallocks have been posted, available at the DF Talk page or here: Transcript

[Uristocrat]

Actually Scamps has an unknown location right now, so he's going to be prowling and clawing me at his will ... I'm kind of worried now, I don't see him.

Uhoh.  Based on my experience, that usually means trouble....

[Johnfalcon99977]

I don't play DF as much these days, but I still listen to DF talks.

They amuse me.

[Willfor]

Nonlethal combat in release #3. Basically, this information is warmth to my heart and soul.

[Knight Otu]

Uhoh.  Based on my experience, that usually means trouble....

Indeed.

Hat making... we don't actually have real hats in the stock universe, do we? We have veils and turbans and caps and helms... maybe I should wait a bit before adding wide-brimmed hats for wizzrobes?

Nonlethal fighting will be great, as fun as it can be to kick a bandit's skull through his brain.

With regards to the government types, it would be neat to have government types change over time for whatever reasons. A warlord conquering large chunks of the surrounding lands and crowning himself king or even emperor, a small group overthrowing a king to institute themselves as a ruling council (and then hiring assassins to kill off the others), or even a petty bandit leader turning out not so petty after all and managing to unite several bands into a new civilization with himself as warlord... it isn't specifically mentioned in the talk, but I guess some part of that will come with the planned succession struggles and the like.

Grates... they shouldn't be able to stop all creatures anyway. Pretty small nonvermins could slip through them, strong ones and smart ones could destroy them or otherwise circumvent them. So a sewer might well have animal inhabitants even if the city remembers to place grates.

Urban night creatures... apart from the oft-mentioned vampires and other undead, I'm actually blanking on fitting creatures, unless we get helpful brownies, but I know there are better examples.

[finka]

Because of how it has to integrate the city grid with the cities it doesn't really have the same former-manor structure that it once did, although for the parts that are still agricultural that could return or not, depending on the timetable.

I hope time is made for this.  It sounds like it would help to some extent with the current unrealism of the streets in the partially-full cities: instead of placing a city-style street grid over the unbuilt land, you'd get the manorial street layout retained there. 

[Frango Nicolbidok]

In short term I'm looking forward to the sewers and people actually doing stuff in cities instead of standing there.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Long term: Bar fights w/o immediate You punch Urist McViolentDrunk in the head, jamming the skull into the brain and tearing the brain!

[IT 000]

In short term I'm looking forward to the sewers and people actually doing stuff in cities instead of standing there.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Long term: Bar fights w/o immediate You punch Urist McViolentDrunk in the head, jamming the skull into the brain and tearing the brain!

Along with the ability for dwarves to fling furniture if they are angry enough. Perhaps you can have bouncers to help you keep the peace.

[de5me7]

will there be anything you cant do in cities?

when it comes down to it, i guess i will spend most of my time doing this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJEgqhzwz0o (skip to 6 mins in)

[monk12]

My first thought when I heard about urban night creatures was the works of HP Lovecraft

[abadidea]

The transcript is an absolute galena mine of quotes, and my favorite ore is galena.

It's raining little grass packets. 

[IT 000]

Wow the cities sound Fun! Catacombs and Sewers and whatnot. Perhaps we could find caches of supplies in sewers. Just little trinkets mostly, but a gold coin here and there would certainly be worth it.

Additionally. With all this city revamp, will human castles feel any love in the coming releases? And will there be any other military based areas like outposts in the woods or underground SNAFU bunkers?

[Dutchling]

Great! another Talk! thx all

[tigrex]

Another piece of entertainment and information courtesy of Bay 12.

The thing about these talks is that they make me want to enter cryogenic suspension for twenty years or so, so I can experience DF at its peak without delay.

[cephalo]

When we see talk of 17x17 embarks, I begin to worry a bit about scale. I would like to pretend that one of my forts could eventually be the giant economic and military center of a major civilization; a real "mountainhome" as it were. The most I've seen in my largest forts is roughly 500 dwarves, obviously by then the FPS is crawling.

What this means is, in comparison to these cities, even my largest forts could only ever hope to be a minor outpost. With these sprawling cities, It would seem that the largest army I could field when the army arc hits might be able to capture a city gate...

You always have to reduce the scale of things in games, even the proposed system does that, but the question is, "how much?" I would like the largest practical player made fort to be some kind of benchmark in deciding on matters of scale. Maybe its OK for human cities to be much larger than dwarven halls, Dwarves dig, humans breed... kinda thing, but I'd rather not see the dev goal be to make impressively large cities. I'm sure there's a right size to be found in terms of gameplay.