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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #660 on: January 06, 2012, 02:52:42 pm »

Just a thought:

Buy the game.
Install the game.
Apply the internet-connection-always-on crack.

You legitimately own the game, you just bypassed the DRM feature (which causes you a headache due to the circumstances).  And you need never tell your nephews.
But that is sort of my point.  What's the difference between that and "Download the game, install the game, apply the internet-connection-always-on crack."  I tell you what.  It's cheaper.  Probably even easier in other ways, too.  Slippery slope.  And I've seen too many machines[1] infected with viruses when a kid's tried to get smart with games, movies and of course pr0n.  However imperfect I might be, let me at least be happy with how I managed my nephews' early experiences of their own computers...

(Yes, in the few years since that occasion, there's been enough other issues, but it's a datum point.)

Off-topic, all of that.  Can't stop myself being dragged back away, even when I try to find something on-topic to say.

[1] ...this week!  Post-Christmas "My present's gone wrong" period being at its height...
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« Reply #661 on: January 06, 2012, 04:15:28 pm »

But that is sort of my point.  What's the difference between that and "Download the game, install the game, apply the internet-connection-always-on crack."  I tell you what.  It's cheaper.  Probably even easier in other ways, too.  Slippery slope.

The difference is being the good customer and insisting on paying full price even when the vendor knows that you could have just as well gotten it cheaper/for free somewhere else and that you support their business.

As for the virus issue, use a torrent search engine that has ratings (I'd suggest one by the name of ISO Hunt, but in so doing I'd be advocating a potentially illegal action).  A lot of users will screen new downloads on a virtual machine (where fucking up your system is impossible) and indicate whether or not the torrent is good or bad.  Another general rule is to avoid anything in a .rar file, as they tend to be password protected, not contain real data, and the "password" is a series of hoops asking you to download something, go to a risky site, or buy other products.

The rar file itself is safe, though, and there are occasional good-torrents that show up as rars (I downloaded some tv show the other week that was rar'd), just check the rating and the comments first.
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« Reply #662 on: January 07, 2012, 08:53:17 am »

The difference is being the good customer and insisting on paying full price even when the vendor knows that you could have just as well gotten it cheaper/for free somewhere else and that you support their business.
I have no argument with that.  I know exactly how far I would go to personally fulfil my own entertainment needs. (fnar fnar)  Which lines I would cross, which I would shy away from.


In the nephews' games example, though, I'm not in any way those nephews of mine's godparent (neither me nor their parents are religious enough to consider that sort of thing, in the first place), but it's very much a more strict line drawn so as to uphold (to what degree I am able) and teach the secular form of the same moralities as might be expected under a 'god<foo>' relaitonship.  Which makes it sound more high-faluting and gosh-darn weird than it really is.  It's really just a more personalised form of my more general humanitarianism.

You give good advice.  IME, .rars can be traps.  (Even if you're looking for 'Traps' ;) )  If you're torrenting, check the filelists (pre .torrent download or in the preview of the client) to make sure there are ow .exes that you're not expecting.  (I don't download games/etc through that, but obviously they'd have them by default...)  Decide whether you're willing to waste time/bandwidth with a .rar knowing that you might list the contents when it's finished and find that it's a .exe inside.  Or a further .rar and a text file that (upon examination) turns out to be instructions on how to go to a web-site to get the password (which can be a similar trap).  If you're downloading actual executables and/or .isos that might or might not be intended to have such files inside, run your virus scanner over them (and still cross your fingers) as soon as you have the data exposed enough to check it (in the case of .isos, post-burn or through your .iso-mounting-to-virtual-disc program).  That and taking note of the mentioned reviews (or lack thereof) and "Good/Bad/Ugly" flags in the original listing.

Personally, my torrenting tends to be freeware stuff (to give reduced load on the linux distro provider's servers, sort of thing), but I'm not saying I haven't caught up with a TV episode of something or other that I've missed and that just happens to have been torrented by some person who must have realised my plight.  A programme that I just happened to not watch when it was on but I had been perfectly entitled to see had circumstances been more opportune...  But that's already on the slippery slope, and I don't say I have done it, either.  <InsertSuitableSmileyHere>

And I don't want anyone else to slide down the slope, either.  My advice above applies towards what your jurisdiction considers legit.  It covers more than that, obviously, but that's because, IMO, it's generally good advice.  Add seasoning, according to taste.

And I need to go cold turkey regarding being Off Topic on this particular thread.  I'm going to try to be resolute from now on.  Game-talk only, and less of that, even.  Definitely.
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« Reply #663 on: January 07, 2012, 11:43:57 am »

As an aside, torrenting TV shows is technically legal due to the timeshifting laws.

In anycase, it's understandable that you do what you do.
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« Reply #664 on: January 07, 2012, 01:16:47 pm »

I've paid for DRM games and then pirated them to get the better experience.
I would never pay anything that contains DRM. Yep, I'm in the I-boycott-Ubisoft camp.
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« Reply #665 on: January 07, 2012, 06:00:18 pm »

I've paid for DRM games and then pirated them to get the better experience.
I would never pay anything that contains DRM. Yep, I'm in the I-boycott-Ubisoft camp.

Honest to god awful DRM shouldn't be paid for, ever, that I'll agree with.
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« Reply #666 on: January 07, 2012, 09:08:07 pm »

Since this thread has nothing to do with piracy or DRM, might I suggest a change of topics before the thread gets locked for derailing?  :-\
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« Reply #667 on: January 07, 2012, 09:27:05 pm »

I've been reading that Vicky II AAR, and I know what my favourite game ever would be(in step format):

1. Take EU3
2. Extend the timeline to 1900
3. Take internal affairs part of Vicky II
4. Use to replace sliders in EU3
5. ? ? ?
6. Try to conquer world and accidentally a communist empire in 1800.
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« Reply #668 on: January 07, 2012, 10:25:07 pm »

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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #669 on: January 07, 2012, 10:53:44 pm »

@Zrk2:
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« Reply #670 on: January 07, 2012, 11:18:45 pm »

Rebuild Spacebuild for Garry's Mod as a standalone program. Design the engine from the ground up to support gravity, atmosphere, and (semi) interplanetary distances. Redesign the art to be consistent yet not overly flashy.
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« Reply #671 on: January 08, 2012, 04:10:31 am »

I'd play a universe simulator (think Spore, space stage) - in multiplayer. With working economics, politics, and even having each planet as complex as a Dwarf Fortress site (Or maybe even a world, if any PC could handle it). Players would research the species living in their solar systems, new technologies, weapons etcetra. They would buy and sell planets to other players, join unions, and send lightsaber swinging representants to other home bases.

All in real time.

Tons of browser games already have this, but I need something as advanced as DF, rather than the stupid, static worlds those games have.
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« Reply #672 on: January 08, 2012, 11:23:47 am »

I'd play a universe simulator (think Spore, space stage) - in multiplayer. With working economics, politics, and even having each planet as complex as a Dwarf Fortress site (Or maybe even a world, if any PC could handle it). Players would research the species living in their solar systems, new technologies, weapons etcetra. They would buy and sell planets to other players, join unions, and send lightsaber swinging representants to other home bases.

All in real time.

Tons of browser games already have this, but I need something as advanced as DF, rather than the stupid, static worlds those games have.

Shores of Hazeron is almost that.  It's unfortunately buggy, however, and I think the developer has made some poor choices in regards to playability.

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« Reply #673 on: January 08, 2012, 03:19:39 pm »

6. Try to conquer world and accidentally a communist empire in 1800.
Ah, but by their nature Marxism and proto-communism were profoundly anti-imperialist. Furthermore, socialism only began to be recognised around the 1830s, it was just "liberalism" back in 1800 or "defending the ideals of the French Revolution", more appropriately. But nevertheless, the term was coined by Karl Marx when he wrote the manifesto of an organisation in London in 1852 if I recall correctly.

So you could not possible have a communist empire in 1800. :P

Reality has never gotten in the way of my glorious shithole communist utopias before!
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« Reply #674 on: January 08, 2012, 03:41:32 pm »

Rebuild Spacebuild for Garry's Mod as a standalone program. Design the engine from the ground up to support gravity, atmosphere, and (semi) interplanetary distances. Redesign the art to be consistent yet not overly flashy.
I'm Sirus, and I support this message.

(I could never get Spacebuild working properly :( )
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