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[Heliman]

Go go Ron Paul.

Keep America American.


_pffft.

[Aqizzar]

Yes, the "Ron Paul Newsletter" and all the same articles came up when he ran in 2008 too.  He insisted then and continues to insist now that he didn't write any of the content, exercised no editorial control over the newsletter bearing his name in the title, and never read any of the stuff until the national media brought it to his attention a decade later.  And that's usually about when he takes off his microphone and leaves the interview.

Best case scenario, that's some terribly incompetent management of your own name as a politician.  I don't need to describe any worse scenarios.

[Tilla]

I think the worst part is that his story changed significantly over the 20+ years since the newsletters actually came out. First he said they were simply out of context even, and that he did write them. Now he claims he doesn't even know who wrote them and never read his own newsletters which is frankly completely absurd.

[palsch]

He did, however, write his own book.

    “Employee rights are said to be valid when employers pressure employees into sexual activity. Why don’t they quit once the so-called harassment starts? Obviously the morals of the harasser cannot be defended, but how can the harassee escape some responsibility for the problem? Seeking protection under civil rights legislation is hardly acceptable.” -Ron Paul, from his 1987 book, Freedom Under Siege.

And purely for comedy value, the wingnut's wingnut, Steve King, calling Ron Paul dangerous.

[G-Flex]

I think the worst part is that his story changed significantly over the 20+ years since the newsletters actually came out. First he said they were simply out of context even, and that he did write them. Now he claims he doesn't even know who wrote them and never read his own newsletters which is frankly completely absurd.

And it's not even just a newsletter published by him. It's a newsletter published by him, with his name plastered all over it, written in the first person from his own perspective. So it's less "I didn't pay any attention to what the writers for my newsletter have written" and more "I didn't pay any attention to what my ghostwriters of my own writings for the newsletter bearing my name in large print have written". It's pretty hilarious.

He did, however, write his own book.

    “Employee rights are said to be valid when employers pressure employees into sexual activity. Why don’t they quit once the so-called harassment starts? Obviously the morals of the harasser cannot be defended, but how can the harassee escape some responsibility for the problem? Seeking protection under civil rights legislation is hardly acceptable.” -Ron Paul, from his 1987 book, Freedom Under Siege.

This is pretty great. I love the phrase "so-called harassment", as if he doesn't believe that sexual harassment is even a thing.

[MonkeyHead]

So, let me get this straight. America has its most liberal and progressive president for a LONG time, and he is trying to set in action changes that should do long term good (e.g. healthcare reform). His policies help endear your nation to the more liberal nations that make up the core of Europe, repairing much of the damage done by Bush and his "yeehaa invade of oli" actions, and he does his best against pretty much the worst economic conditions since just after the 2 world wars. This however simply sets the scene for a mad raving bunch of right wing nutcases to come out of the woodwork to oppose him?

Only in America.

[Capntastic]

Well, you see, he's just not doing enough for 'Corporations' and massaging 'job creators'.   We need someone to put the focus back where it belongs:  Helping the Rich

[RedKing]

So, let me get this straight. America has its most liberal and progressive president for a LONG time, and he is trying to set in action changes that should do long term good (e.g. healthcare reform). His policies help endear your nation to the more liberal nations that make up the core of Europe, repairing much of the damage done by Bush and his "yeehaa invade of oli" actions, and he does his best against pretty much the worst economic conditions since just after the 2 world wars. This however simply sets the scene for a mad raving bunch of right wing nutcases to come out of the woodwork to oppose him?

Only in America.

It's all about the Benjamins. If the economy wasn't royally hosed, Obama would probably have a 70% approval rating, with the naysaying being relegated to the culture wars. Instead of all the candidates yelling about jobs, they'd still be yelling about birth certificates and gays and immigrants.

Besides, you're also talking about a constituency for whom getting the approval of other countries is a BAD thing. They want a President who's going to piss off most of the rest of the world, because obviously that means they're doing it right. </GOPtrolllogic>

[MonkeyHead]

Well, you see, he's just not doing enough for 'Corporations' and massaging 'job creators'.   We need someone to put the focus back where it belongs:  Helping the Rich

Right, that makes sense, as the rich fund your politicians through bribes donations dont they?

[ECrownofFire]

So, let me get this straight. America has its most liberal and progressive president for a LONG time, and he is trying to set in action changes that should do long term good (e.g. healthcare reform). His policies help endear your nation to the more liberal nations that make up the core of Europe, repairing much of the damage done by Bush and his "yeehaa invade of oli" actions, and he does his best against pretty much the worst economic conditions since just after the 2 world wars. This however simply sets the scene for a mad raving bunch of right wing nutcases to come out of the woodwork to oppose him?

Only in America.

Doesn't exactly help when considering he still extended the PATRIOT Act and pretty much everything else Bush did

[Lysabild]

Capitalism is the enemy, from here, to there. America seriously needs some proper red politics.

Spoiler: Capitalism (click to show/hide)

[Capntastic]

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2011/dec/30/how-candidates-fared-truth-o-meter-Iowa11/

Here's some neat data to look at.

[mainiac]

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2011/dec/30/how-candidates-fared-truth-o-meter-Iowa11/

Hell no, that site is a load of crap.  They named their "lie of the year" democratic statements that republicans "want to end end medicare as we know it." 

Now I'll agree that one can debate this statement.  The debate is over whether the vouchers proposed by Paul Ryan represent ending medicare or not.  That is debatable but one can see the value to the statement.  "End medicare as we know it" is a lot punchier then explaining how cost shifting would likely make the voucher proposal prove inadequate after two decades.  And that's even ignoring the large number of republicans who are on record as opposing medicare and wanting to end it.  There is room for debate but the statement is no whopper.

Compare that to some of the other stuff that we've heard this year.  We've heard that President Obama isn't an American citizen and is socialist or a Muslim.  We've heard the Herman Cain's tax proposals were revenue neutral.  We've heard that vaccines cause autism for god's sake.  These things are all patently false, moonbat crazy false.  And they came from people who were leading the republican primary race at the time they said them.  This is even leaving aside the countless wallbangers like Romney's health care bill not being the exact same thing as Obama's or Obama cutting defense spending or Obama raising taxes.

"Politfact" chose a statement that is basically true (if polemically worded) in a year where there has been so much batshit insane stuff being said.  They are a worthless organization.

[scriver]

I'm watching you.

[Karlito]

I don't know if any of you guys have heard of this, but it's an effort to put a third party candidate on the national ballot for President, which will be totally awesome if it works, though I do have my doubts.