I like them because they come take away my trash. Want to get rid of a dozen troll leather loincloths from a recent ambush? Toss them outside, the kobolds will take them away! They're happy for the little flaps of leather!Wait really? Because I have tons of goblinite outside the walls and they keep running into the guards at the gates. I haven't seen "Thief has taken Troll leather jacket" either.
Everywhere seems to have reptilian Kobolds. Bah, to me Kobolds will always be bipedal horned dogs, as encountered in Baldur's Gate...
(http://images.wikia.com/forgottenrealms/images/a/af/Kobold_s.jpg)
(http://mikesrpgcenter.com/bgate/enemies/kobold.gif)
(http://mikesrpgcenter.com/bgate/enemies/koboldcommando.gif)
I can't wait for army arc. When we get to send armies and traders to other nations, kobolds will become interesting!"Hello, Kobold! What do you have to offer?"
Ah, Kobolds, their like the dim cousin we always cheer on!Cage them, and build a walled community. Throw in a heap of meat every once in a while to keep them happy.
Yes, he's eating rocks, but look how happy it makes him!
Honestly, I love kobolds and cutebolds. Ever since the appeared on /tg/ I went 'daww.'
Only problem is they are so stabby sometimes. Oh well, more copper dagger for me!
Oddly, a friend of mine once modded in that they had litters of 3-4 when they bred, and for about two hundred years a giant mass of kobolds just swamped the world. Then all the nations of the world turned hostile, and the poor little blighters were squished.
They are still out there, in a massive mob.
Wish I could adopt some, let them build a village in the back.
What, are kobolds now some kind of fluffy wambler? We're DWARVES, we don't do "d'aww" and "cutebold", we kill them in a variety of brutal ways and rip their large copper daggers from their still warm, charred remains!Kobolds are one of the few things I don't magma immediately. Fluffy wamblers are fair game though ;)
I think it would be interesting if you could enslave captured kobolds. Make them do menial labor, in return you can let them go or make their lives nice inside a Dwarven fortress.
KOBOLD COMMANDO HUAH.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Saying they are trying to make a decent living for themselves is a gigantic lie. The ambushes they send clearly shows they are greedy vermin hellbent on getting themselves killed in some dark hole in the farthest reaches of the planet.Elves?
Part of the appeal of kobolds is their danger and mischievous ways. We are dwarves. We slaughter kittens on sight and we toss live puppies to their deaths in our dining halls. We take the sneaking kobold thieves, with daggers known to slice through steel boots, and we adore them. They are small, mostly vicious, and adorable by no fault of their own. They are the ultimate dwarven pet. We adore them like a mother adores her prankster child. She smiles as he attempts to sneak the cookie jar away - not just a cookie but the whole jar. They have such grand dreams, such desire to steal that one more masterpiece bolt, and yet are considered an adorable nuisance. It's like having an infestation of koala bears. Yes, they're eating all your food and pooping on the floor, but if you ever got your hands on one you'd cuddle it.
Aside from that, being rational is not only optional, but is frowned upon. We hate elves. We kill for socks. We sacrifice nobles. We love kobolds.
I saw kobolds only in Legends. They are so rare they should be put on Endangered Animal List. And kept in cages and zoos, so children could learn how they look.Indeed.
I saw kobolds only in Legends. They are so rare they should be put on Endangered Animal List. And kept in cages and zoos, so children could learn how they look.They should be on the Extinct Animal list.
Wait how long does a kobold live? Barring hunger, dehydration and someone swinging an axe, of course.Enough to escape from a troglodyte attack. In region 7, anyway.
I saw kobolds only in Legends. They are so rare they should be put on Endangered Animal List. And kept in cages and zoos, so children could learn how they look.They should be on the Extinct Animal list.
This is why we need to stick together and help them in these hard times.I saw kobolds only in Legends. They are so rare they should be put on Endangered Animal List. And kept in cages and zoos, so children could learn how they look.They should be on the Extinct Animal list.
Technically they are not extinct yet in any of my worlds, the biggest total population being around 50 (in 1000+ years old world). But they are so far away that even dwarves are unable to remove them completely. Also it is possible there are no breeding pairs (for example only males or only females in one group) so they would be practically extinct. And of course, so limited number means a degeneration, their gene pool is too small to prevent this. It's only a matter of time...
You can actually make them members of your civ using runesmith.Awesome! It'd be nice to have a walled community of them in the back, with the dwarves dropping cat meat back there :)
I would do this and keep them huddled in a back room, but they're already extinct in the region I'm playing in.
Well no wonder. At least naked mole dogs are smart enough to steal food instead of weird junk!No, they starve because they can't trade or farm. Stealing food doesn't count in world gen.
I wonder if giving kobolds the tags that let animals steal food would help them stave off starvation.
No, they starve because they can't trade or farm. Stealing food doesn't count in world gen....
Back in 40d a kobold thief managed to sneak into my fort through my river access and stole an artifact platinum goblet that was encrusted with diamonds, rubies and gold. I was pretty pissed at the time but thinking back...that little guy must have become a king among the cutebolds. My dwarves sure thought it was ballsy, it became a favorite engraving subject for awhile.So he swam through the murky water, came up, and snatched the holy grail, bypassing all of your defenses and becoming king?
The Republican national convention, I think.You're a democrat, I presume.
The Republican national convention, I think.You're a democrat, I presume.
Anyways, I was thinking along the lines of *ahem* THE HOLY GRAIL!
Saying they are trying to make a decent living for themselves is a gigantic lie. The ambushes they send clearly shows they are greedy vermin hellbent on getting themselves killed in some dark hole in the farthest reaches of the planet.Just like dwarfs ;D
That's what I was thinking.Saying they are trying to make a decent living for themselves is a gigantic lie. The ambushes they send clearly shows they are greedy vermin hellbent on getting themselves killed in some dark hole in the farthest reaches of the planet.Just like dwarfs ;D
I'm going to start capturing kobolds, runesmithing them into my civ, and keeping a "natural kobald environment" in my fort. Namely, some small wooden huts in a cave, or just some doors in a cave system, and toss various loincloths and robes down, as well as plenty of food. Maybe some little stone chairs to sit on as a communal dining room, but allow them to primarily run around barking and breeding.YYAAAAAYY!!!
Somebody said there needs to be a cutebold imagedump, so here we are (http://photobucket.com/cutebolds).
Password is password. Bear in mind most of these were made by *chan drawfags, so there's quite a bit of NSFW stuff there.
Anybody can add pictures, so go crazy, or send me a pm with pictures you want added.
Wow. You lot are crazy.Magma magma! ^-^
I see 3 pictures with goblins, but they all have a kobold as well.I'm specifically refering to this one, which has zero Kobolds in it:
I think that's supposed to be a kobold in the comic. The "g" in the animation below confused me as to that. Seems like a mix-up.
I think that's supposed to be a kobold in the comic. The "g" in the animation below confused me as to that. Seems like a mix-up.
Note the lack of a muzzle... it's a Gobbo.
A couple of the pictures (Mostly females) have snout-less kobolds. I dunno why the snouts gone D:I think that's supposed to be a kobold in the comic. The "g" in the animation below confused me as to that. Seems like a mix-up.
Note the lack of a muzzle... it's a Gobbo.
I'm seriously confused now. Since when do goblins have big ear-things? Pretty sure that's a kobold, just without a prominent snout. I seem to know less about this than most here, though, so I'll end my input on this matter at that.
Either way, awesome image collection. Even if the kobold quantity may be debated.
A bunch have diminished muzzles, but the artist who does a bunch of the Cutebolds also does a bunch of pics of a fem Gobbo who has "ears/horns/head thingies" that are like that. And the symbol is "g".A couple of the pictures (Mostly females) have snout-less kobolds. I dunno why the snouts gone D:I think that's supposed to be a kobold in the comic. The "g" in the animation below confused me as to that. Seems like a mix-up.
Note the lack of a muzzle... it's a Gobbo.
I'm seriously confused now. Since when do goblins have big ear-things? Pretty sure that's a kobold, just without a prominent snout. I seem to know less about this than most here, though, so I'll end my input on this matter at that.
Either way, awesome image collection. Even if the kobold quantity may be debated.
I'm still a relative noob here, so I had no idea that Kobolds were so rare.
if I ever get one in my cage traps, I am releasing it into a pen with a few nest boxes. I will attempt to get a few of each sex.
EDIT: Wow. Fail. Just checked the wiki. Kobolds are immune to traps T_T
How am I going to make a Kobold reservation now?
Ah, you're right. So what do you people think, should I delete it from the album, or is it sufficiently cute to be left there?I see 3 pictures with goblins, but they all have a kobold as well.I'm specifically refering to this one, which has zero Kobolds in it:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
But again, I'm not trying to give ya grief, just pointin it out.
How do I go about checking the Kobold population? I want to see if there are even any Kobolds left in my world.Legends Viewer (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=72702.0) is good for that, though if you haven't modded them to be NO_EAT and NO_DRINK then an overwhelming majority of them must've starved to death.
Ah, you're right. So what do you people think, should I delete it from the album, or is it sufficiently cute to be left there?
Added 17 more images, among them "inappropriate jirbis" and "key board on head".
The link again is http://photobucket.com/cutebolds
The password is password
I also stole the kobold troubadour avatar from one of bay12 forumgoers for group pic.
Poor little guys are just trying to eke out a living amongst the much larger and waaay more powerful civs. They live on the edges in little mud huts and steal scraps of leather and copper for a living.
Koboldlings: "Daddy what you bring us today?!"
Kobold thief: "Daddy find ... LEATHER LOINCLOTH!"
Koboldlings: "HOORAY!"
*daddy kobold beams at his little kobold kids who are now playing happily with a dirty, smudged, raggedy old smelly dwarf loincloth*
Although in most cases it ends up like this:
Koboldlings: "Mommy, when daddy come back with new toys?"
Kobold mom: "Mommy not know. Daddy been gone long time."
Koboldlings: "We miss daddy and toys."
Meanwhile
Kobold Thief: "Urrkkkk!" dies by being mauled by a war dog
If murdering parents infront of their kids in the most gruesome manner possible is too much for you, you have not played Dwarf Fortress.Sigd.
You should be drowning babies by now, human.
...being rational is not only optional, but is frowned upon. We hate elves. We kill for socks. We sacrifice nobles. We love kobolds.
I think you might be looking for a less brutal game, like Dead Space or God of War. If murdering parents infront of their kids in the most gruesome manner possible is too much for you, you have not played Dwarf Fortress.I think you misunderstood me - I only mean novelized stuff usually. In this game I can slaughter over 9000 kittens without batting an eyelash.
You should be drowning babies by now, human.
So you can watch all this happen and laugh in their faces, but you cannot hear it? That doesn't make any sense.I think you might be looking for a less brutal game, like Dead Space or God of War. If murdering parents infront of their kids in the most gruesome manner possible is too much for you, you have not played Dwarf Fortress.I think you misunderstood me - I only mean novelized stuff usually. In this game I can slaughter over 9000 kittens without batting an eyelash.
You should be drowning babies by now, human.
Like most of us. :P
Spoiler: Kobold and Goblin (click to show/hide)
cutegoblin?The term is "Dawwblin".
Someone else create a cutegoblin thread, I have a flooded volcano to deal with
I don't think "dawwblin" fits the established cutebold/goblin relatioship. "Molestblin" is more like it.cutegoblin?The term is "Dawwblin".
Someone else create a cutegoblin thread, I have a flooded volcano to deal with
If you want your tame kobolds and mermaids to breed just remove their egglaying tag. Requires regen?I don't think changing creature raws requires a regen, though some people say it does. Try it.
But this one is my favorite :The Kobold is the only one wearing a tie.
(http://gi341.photobucket.com/groups/o378/REKXMANLNW/diplomacy.gif?t=1307104706)
It pretty much explains where are kobolds situated on the scale of respect, aka between "unwanted trash remover" and "no better than vermin". And the elf's and dwarf's "oh god why must trash sit at our table ?" expression is priceless.
You guys can probably find a way to make a terrifying night creature with no eyes and skin-wings cute.That sounds like a dare >:D
Think about this.Same thing as with every other humanoid that isn't a kobold.
What would you do if a humanoid with no eyes, and skin-wings came at you, wanting to rip off your eyes?
Derp. Can't spell.
Derp.
Derp.HERPADERPDERPDERPDERPDADERPHERPDERPAFERP.
Thank you for your answer. Shall we reserve a magma room in the Dwarven Mental Institution?Think about this.Same thing as with every other humanoid that isn't a kobold.
What would you do if a humanoid with no eyes, and skin-wings came at you, wanting to rip off your eyes?Spoiler (click to show/hide)
What's the difference?Thank you for your answer. Shall we reserve a magma room in the Dwarven Mental Institution?Think about this.Same thing as with every other humanoid that isn't a kobold.
What would you do if a humanoid with no eyes, and skin-wings came at you, wanting to rip off your eyes?Spoiler (click to show/hide)
You guys can probably find a way to make a terrifying night creature with no eyes and skin-wings cute.
My attempt at nagas proved that a very large creature can sustain big injuries from 1 level fall.Makes sense, kinda.
I build aYou do know what happens when people find the promised land, though, right? Especially when that promised land is occupied by other people?trash dump storagecutebold care package house for them outside my fortress. I fill it with rock salt mugs, troll leather loincloths, and wooden weapons. Cute little guys must think they found the promised land.
Yes, I understand how it works in DF, it just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense in general.
Now if only I knew how to mod in Kobold caravans. *Strokes beard*Remove [ITEM_THIEF] or something.
Now if only I knew how to mod in Kobold caravans. *Strokes beard*Remove [ITEM_THIEF] or something.
Kobalds don't talk, they use utterances. Any creature that doesn't talk is assumed hostile. Also I'd love to trade for stolen goods, that sounds extremely interesting. "Doesn't this cat leather cloak look familiar?" "What, no. Surely not!"
I have a few kobolds in cages, I pitted 15 of them against a Giant Badger.........*Shudders* The cutebolds didnt last 30 seconds.....You monster.
I have a few kobolds in cages, I pitted 15 of them against a Giant Badger.........*Shudders* The cutebolds didnt last 30 seconds.....You monster.
I just don't think kobold society is the kind that would see the point, or have enough stolen stuff, to send annual trade caravans to hawk their ill gotten wares.To be fair, we don't know how much they gather during worldgen. I'd be very curious to know just how much stuff they acquire. Has anyone actually stumbled across a kobold cave before? Do they have sites?
You think this is bad? Look at some of the idea's people for torture.....I have seen one that includes 10 children, a antman, a giant badger and a UristMc LyemakerNone of those are using adorable little Kobolds. Dwarves aren't adorable.
I just don't think kobold society is the kind that would see the point, or have enough stolen stuff, to send annual trade caravans to hawk their ill gotten wares.To be fair, we don't know how much they gather during worldgen. I'd be very curious to know just how much stuff they acquire. Has anyone actually stumbled across a kobold cave before? Do they have sites?You think this is bad? Look at some of the idea's people for torture.....I have seen one that includes 10 children, a antman, a giant badger and a UristMc LyemakerNone of those are using adorable little Kobolds. Dwarves aren't adorable.
I just don't think kobold society is the kind that would see the point, or have enough stolen stuff, to send annual trade caravans to hawk their ill gotten wares.To be fair, we don't know how much they gather during worldgen. I'd be very curious to know just how much stuff they acquire. Has anyone actually stumbled across a kobold cave before? Do they have sites?
My favourite is still this oneD'AWWWWWWWWW!It's so sweet!Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Yes, I understand how it works in DF, it just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense in general.Aside from the cube-law mentioned, haven't you heard the saying "the bigger they are, the harder they fall"? It's one of those things you can even feel as you grow up: when you're young, falling on your face just means getting back up; when you're pushing six feet, falling on your face means a broken nose, blood, and possibly a concusion.
I've always hoped that Toady would have the kobolds eventually wielding cobaltite weapons and maybe even armor, since the metal is named after them, and it ought to be useful for something.The problem is cobaltite was named such simply because it's so fiendishly hard to smelt into anything useful; thrice because of the sparce amounts of ore, because of the odd process, and because of the poisons released when attempted the two former.
My favourite is still this oneThat is beautiful, I must say.It's so sweet!Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I've modded kobolds to be playable by me, but I haven't found any kobold civs. I'm either gonna have to stop world gen before year 4 or mod in [NO_EAT] and [NO_DRINK]. I'll do the former.the no_eat solution works quite well, if you remember to take it off after worldgen. ive been working with goblins, and as carnivores, they have the no_eat and drink tags by default.
What happens if I don't remove the tags? And where do I put them?
But.. But.. Kobolds aren't kobolds unless they lay eggs..What happens if I don't remove the tags? And where do I put them?
you may want to read the thread in the future, in case you missed something ;)Spoiler (click to show/hide)
If you don't remove the tags, they won't need to eat or drink during gameplay. Since carnivorous pets don't eat or drink atm, it really isn't critical if you're taming kobolds (or just having them as hostiles), but if you further mod them to be a playable race, leaving the tags in will mean your entire kobold fort will NEVER need food or drink; they'll just live until they get killed or die of old age.
What happens if I don't remove the tags? And where do I put them?
you may want to read the thread in the future, in case you missed something ;)Spoiler (click to show/hide)
If you don't remove the tags, they won't need to eat or drink during gameplay. Since carnivorous pets don't eat or drink atm, it really isn't critical if you're taming kobolds (or just having them as hostiles), but if you further mod them to be a playable race, leaving the tags in will mean your entire kobold fort will NEVER need food or drink; they'll just live until they get killed or die of old age.
Awesome fact: In an unmodded huge world, I had an entire continent populated only by humans and kobolds.
That was my favorite continent.
Everywhere seems to have reptilian Kobolds. Bah, to me Kobolds will always be bipedal horned dogs, as encountered in Baldur's Gate...
(http://images.wikia.com/forgottenrealms/images/a/af/Kobold_s.jpg)
(http://mikesrpgcenter.com/bgate/enemies/kobold.gif)
(http://mikesrpgcenter.com/bgate/enemies/koboldcommando.gif)
Being a long-time D and D player (1983) I am inclined to agree on this. Kobolds will always look like little horned dog men to me.
Kobolds, huh?Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Can't say I know why everyone seems so enamored with them.
i like kobolds. this is what they look like to me
(http://www.mbnet.fi/pelihalli/kuvat/kolumni/mike1/kobold.jpg)
Spengbab
it's hard to turn your back on almost twenty years of d&d indoctrination. kobolds will forever be diminutive lizard-dog people to me.i like kobolds. this is what they look like to me
(http://www.mbnet.fi/pelihalli/kuvat/kolumni/mike1/kobold.jpg)
In DF, they don't have a snout. You should see them in Armok 1, that's probably kind of what they look like in this game.
I actually came across this thread while searching for a way to get them to live past world gen.
me too, but i always saw them as little horned scaly dog men.Everywhere seems to have reptilian Kobolds. Bah, to me Kobolds will always be bipedal horned dogs, as encountered in Baldur's Gate...
(http://images.wikia.com/forgottenrealms/images/a/af/Kobold_s.jpg)
(http://mikesrpgcenter.com/bgate/enemies/kobold.gif)
(http://mikesrpgcenter.com/bgate/enemies/koboldcommando.gif)
Being a long-time D and D player (1983) I am inclined to agree on this. Kobolds will always look like little horned dog men to me.
Kobolds are small, scaled lizard-like creatures. They tend to live in warmer regions, and love populating dungeons. They're generally disgusting, far more filthy than even the most repugnant ogre. Adventurers should have no trouble fighting them, as they tend to run away. They may be a danger in packs although.
THEY ARE NOT CUTE. BTW, That's from the DND universe. "Cutebolds"? What the hell? These things are like mini demon-dragon-things. Not cute at all, and they smell. Bad.
Lrn2fantasynub
Kobolds are small, scaled lizard-like creatures. They tend to live in warmer regions, and love populating dungeons. They're generally disgusting, far more filthy than even the most repugnant ogre. Adventurers should have no trouble fighting them, as they tend to run away. They may be a danger in packs although.
THEY ARE NOT CUTE. BTW, That's from the DND universe. "Cutebolds"? What the hell? These things are like mini demon-dragon-things. Not cute at all, and they smell. Bad.
Lrn2fantasynub
Kobolds are bipedal, dog-like creatures with fur. They aren't lizards.
Lrn2fantasynub.
And, more importantly,
Lrn2notuseoverusedmemesinaplacethatdoesn'tembracememesnub.
Read the Dwarf Fortress description.Kobolds are small, scaled lizard-like creatures. They tend to live in warmer regions, and love populating dungeons. They're generally disgusting, far more filthy than even the most repugnant ogre. Adventurers should have no trouble fighting them, as they tend to run away. They may be a danger in packs although.
THEY ARE NOT CUTE. BTW, That's from the DND universe. "Cutebolds"? What the hell? These things are like mini demon-dragon-things. Not cute at all, and they smell. Bad.
Lrn2fantasynub
Kobolds are bipedal, dog-like creatures with fur. They aren't lizards.
Lrn2fantasynub.
And, more importantly,
Lrn2notuseoverusedmemesinaplacethatdoesn'tembracememesnub.
First: What's a meme?
Second: You obviously don't know fantasy. J.R Tolkien made fantasy creatures what they are; - Dwarves are short, hairy bearded midgets, elves are tall, fair-skinned, pointy-eared freaks, orcs are large, muscular and grey-green, goblins are kinda like small, pure green orcs (Without the muscles), and Kobolds are small, scaly creatures.
Both from the Dungeons & Dragons universe AND J.R Tolkien's depicts kobolds as what I said. The large, dog-like creatures are called GNOLLS.
http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Kobold&gbv=2&oq=Kobold&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1521l2124l0l2202l6l4l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0
Long like, ugh. It's google images. Almost 95% of the kobolds there are scaled.
http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Warcraft+3+gnoll&gbv=2&oq=Warcraft+3+gnoll&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=207l2216l0l2328l16l8l0l0l0l0l464l997l2-2.0.1l3l0#hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Gnoll&oq=Gnoll&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=0l0l1l4245l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c597970cbae8f806&biw=1920&bih=1042
THAT is a gnoll. A small-medium sized hairy, dog-like creature.
Jesus, you kids never know fantasy.
Read the Dwarf Fortress description.Kobolds are small, scaled lizard-like creatures. They tend to live in warmer regions, and love populating dungeons. They're generally disgusting, far more filthy than even the most repugnant ogre. Adventurers should have no trouble fighting them, as they tend to run away. They may be a danger in packs although.
THEY ARE NOT CUTE. BTW, That's from the DND universe. "Cutebolds"? What the hell? These things are like mini demon-dragon-things. Not cute at all, and they smell. Bad.
Lrn2fantasynub
Kobolds are bipedal, dog-like creatures with fur. They aren't lizards.
Lrn2fantasynub.
And, more importantly,
Lrn2notuseoverusedmemesinaplacethatdoesn'tembracememesnub.
First: What's a meme?
Second: You obviously don't know fantasy. J.R Tolkien made fantasy creatures what they are; - Dwarves are short, hairy bearded midgets, elves are tall, fair-skinned, pointy-eared freaks, orcs are large, muscular and grey-green, goblins are kinda like small, pure green orcs (Without the muscles), and Kobolds are small, scaly creatures.
Both from the Dungeons & Dragons universe AND J.R Tolkien's depicts kobolds as what I said. The large, dog-like creatures are called GNOLLS.
http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Kobold&gbv=2&oq=Kobold&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1521l2124l0l2202l6l4l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0
Long like, ugh. It's google images. Almost 95% of the kobolds there are scaled.
http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Warcraft+3+gnoll&gbv=2&oq=Warcraft+3+gnoll&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=207l2216l0l2328l16l8l0l0l0l0l464l997l2-2.0.1l3l0#hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Gnoll&oq=Gnoll&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=0l0l1l4245l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c597970cbae8f806&biw=1920&bih=1042
THAT is a gnoll. A small-medium sized hairy, dog-like creature.
Jesus, you kids never know fantasy.
:|
...Read the Dwarf Fortress description.Kobolds are small, scaled lizard-like creatures. They tend to live in warmer regions, and love populating dungeons. They're generally disgusting, far more filthy than even the most repugnant ogre. Adventurers should have no trouble fighting them, as they tend to run away. They may be a danger in packs although.
THEY ARE NOT CUTE. BTW, That's from the DND universe. "Cutebolds"? What the hell? These things are like mini demon-dragon-things. Not cute at all, and they smell. Bad.
Lrn2fantasynub
Kobolds are bipedal, dog-like creatures with fur. They aren't lizards.
Lrn2fantasynub.
And, more importantly,
Lrn2notuseoverusedmemesinaplacethatdoesn'tembracememesnub.
First: What's a meme?
Second: You obviously don't know fantasy. J.R Tolkien made fantasy creatures what they are; - Dwarves are short, hairy bearded midgets, elves are tall, fair-skinned, pointy-eared freaks, orcs are large, muscular and grey-green, goblins are kinda like small, pure green orcs (Without the muscles), and Kobolds are small, scaly creatures.
Both from the Dungeons & Dragons universe AND J.R Tolkien's depicts kobolds as what I said. The large, dog-like creatures are called GNOLLS.
http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Kobold&gbv=2&oq=Kobold&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1521l2124l0l2202l6l4l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0
Long like, ugh. It's google images. Almost 95% of the kobolds there are scaled.
http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1042&q=Warcraft+3+gnoll&gbv=2&oq=Warcraft+3+gnoll&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=207l2216l0l2328l16l8l0l0l0l0l464l997l2-2.0.1l3l0#hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Gnoll&oq=Gnoll&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=0l0l1l4245l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c597970cbae8f806&biw=1920&bih=1042
THAT is a gnoll. A small-medium sized hairy, dog-like creature.
Jesus, you kids never know fantasy.
:|
DF didn't create fantasy. I tend to go with the general opinion, rather than one game's views.
Plus, admit it; - DF is only for people with fetishes for either
A. Dwarves.
B. Magma.
C. Killing Kittens.
D. Kobolds.
BTW, I fall into category C.
Then why the hell are you yelling at me?Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Dude. What Toady says goes in Toady's universe. Which actually means our Kobolds are little sadistic monkeys so we can't really tell you off for that... Everyone has different headcanon, don't try and impose yours on us; the last guy who did...
We don't talk about Vader22 anymore.
NINJA'D by Girlinhat going off on a motherfucker. Goddamn, girl.
We're after that Dave guy. You're ok Necro. Well, no, you're not ok, let's be honest with ourselves. But, you've done nothing wrong this time.Indeed.
(If quoting dead people were a legit argument):lolurriteamirite?
KOBOLDS ARE NOT SCALY, BTW. That's from Germanic folklore. Lizard creatures? What the hell? These things are a type of fairy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobold
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Plus, admit it; - DF is only for people with fetishes for either
A. Dwarves.
B. Magma.
C. Killing Kittens.
D. Kobolds.
BTW, I fall into category C.
>Plus, admit it; - DF is only for people with fetishes for either...
You forgot elaborate death traps, pointless doomsday devices, and Menacing Spikes.
(I am a death trap lover myself.)
Plus, admit it; - DF is only for people with fetishes for either
A. Dwarves.
B. Magma.
C. Killing Kittens.
D. Kobolds.
Kobolds are small, scaled lizard-like creatures.
Then why the hell are you yelling at me?Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Dude. What Toady says goes in Toady's universe. Which actually means our Kobolds are little sadistic monkeys so we can't really tell you off for that... Everyone has different headcanon, don't try and impose yours on us; the last guy who did...
We don't talk about Vader22 anymore.
NINJA'D by Girlinhat going off on a motherfucker. Goddamn, girl.
I already said the DF kobolds have fur and doglike ears.
I had a Kobold come out of nowhere. He ambushed a dwarven baby and stuffed him in a bag to carry off to god only knows what sort of adorable hole in the ground. He also stabbed the child with his copper dagger before sacking him, and the one stab cut off the baby's right hand. The baby's mother was also the militia commander, the only married migrant to appear at my young fort. She was wearing full plate, mostly bismuth bronze, with an axe.That sounds more like goblins...
The kobold snuck up through my hunting grounds, ambushed my heavily armed militia commander, stabbed her baby carried in her arms, stuffed the baby in a sack, and walked away unharmed.
[PREFSTRING:balls of steel]
I had a Kobold come out of nowhere. He ambushed a dwarven baby and stuffed him in a bag to carry off to god only knows what sort of adorable hole in the ground. He also stabbed the child with his copper dagger before sacking him, and the one stab cut off the baby's right hand. The baby's mother was also the militia commander, the only married migrant to appear at my young fort. She was wearing full plate, mostly bismuth bronze, with an axe.That sounds more like goblins...
The kobold snuck up through my hunting grounds, ambushed my heavily armed militia commander, stabbed her baby carried in her arms, stuffed the baby in a sack, and walked away unharmed.
[PREFSTRING:balls of steel]
Did you give Kobolds [BABYSNATCHER]?
*snip*If you have to mention his name all the time then it's either Tolkien or J.R.R.Tolkien, not one R. Two. John Ronald Reuer Tolkien. Two r's. Lrn2writenamesoffantasyauthors. :P
So, wait... Did you seriously just say "I don't care what the game says, this is how DnD and Tolkien put it, so that's how it is."Made me laugh. :D Thanks.
If the game defines a cyclops with wings, are you going to ignore it as it flies over your walls?
Another awesome thing is because they have no sense of ownership I get to steal their hard won hoard.
I hope in the future releases friendly kobolds go off map to steal from surrounding civilizations. My own little band of theives. ^_^
I heard there is a Kobold Camp mod...I meant make a kobold den, then have it send off its denizens to steal materials from other races. Instead of traders and caravans with goods, have returning thief parties?
That'll have to wait until army arc, when the player can actually do things off the map. I'm looking forward to raiding parties though, that will be entirely too much fun.
Will we be able to send out assasins and thieves and spies too? in medieval total war assasins and espionage was one on my favorite aspects. I can think of worse models for dwarf fortress.In a few years, DF will be a model for Total War!
Makes you feel a little weird, doesn't it, when you find yourself attached to the plight of the little pixel men, and you see things that happen as actually being your fault? Happens to me sometimes. I see the dwarf lying crippled on the ground, 20 Z's below the enormous crystal spire made in the shape of a penis, and I realize that this was a dwarf with hopes and dreams. A short, sturdy creatures with a wife and 3 children, and a pet ewe, he was fond of orthoclase and black bronze, hated oysters and would ring his hands when he was nervous. And now he's laying in the dirt, staring up at a crystalline penis 300 foot tall, breathing his last because every other dwarf is too busy starving and hauling glass blocks to take him to the hospital. And he dies there, ecstatic because he saw a waterfall last week and admiring a fine door 20 feet away, where the workers flow in and out.
And then he's in the refuse pile, and I eat another kitten tallow biscuit, and another migrant comes, and I don't really care about anything anymore.
Makes you feel a little weird, doesn't it, when you find yourself attached to the plight of the little pixel men, and you see things that happen as actually being your fault? Happens to me sometimes. I see the dwarf lying crippled on the ground, 20 Z's below the enormous crystal spire made in the shape of a penis, and I realize that this was a dwarf with hopes and dreams. A short, sturdy creatures with a wife and 3 children, and a pet ewe, he was fond of orthoclase and black bronze, hated oysters and would ring his hands when he was nervous. And now he's laying in the dirt, staring up at a crystalline penis 300 foot tall, breathing his last because every other dwarf is too busy starving and hauling glass blocks to take him to the hospital. And he dies there, ecstatic because he saw a waterfall last week and admiring a fine door 20 feet away, where the workers flow in and out.
And then he's in the refuse pile, and I eat another kitten tallow biscuit, and another migrant comes, and I don't really care about anything anymore.
:'(Spoiler (click to show/hide)
It's a shame that I refuse to sig myself, and that it's too big to fit in a sig...
Eh, not really good enough to merit such a position - let that sink in a moment. I can do better.
CUPCAKES?Eh, not really good enough to merit such a position - let that sink in a moment. I can do better.
You'd better.
Or else.
ಠ_ಠ
My first encounter with kobolds.Thanks for the necro, and it's genesis, not genises
Mod: Genises
It stabbed my cat to death and my wrestler beat its skull in with its pants.
2nd encounter
Mod: Genises Mod Mod( Orc fortress not the official one but my own personal mod)
It assassinated my Shogun while she was having morning tea.
Lets just say the next caravan received *kobold bone jigsaw puzzles* for free.
They are bold little buggers
That's not really that much of a necro...Hai der
@ Lagslayer :omg you like flying piggies too :DWhen pigs fly, anything is possible! Buy redbull today!
<.<Oh god, it's like an armed Alf.
>.>
I've just put this in the main art thread, but I think I'll put it here too:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Aside from that, being rational is not only optional, but is frowned upon. We hate elves. We kill for socks. We sacrifice nobles. We love kobolds.
Why do people keep asking? I have to answer so much that it becomes a bother D: Just sig it already, if it's not one thing I said then it's another!
It's true. I rarely need to lie, I'm out of practice. The truth usually does well enough to astound and confuse that I don't need to lie.Seconded!
It's true. I rarely need to lie, I'm out of practice. The truth usually does well enough to astound and confuse that I don't need to lie.Shit, I have the urge to sig that, too! *refrains urge* :'(
Alright, Girlinhat, need some advice here (or anyone else who knows modding well enough to answer this).
First off, thanks to everyone for the advice on getting them to survive worldgen in 31.25. Worked wonders. Although I'm still not in the cutebold camp (and leaning towards scaly, though not ugly and hideous), I still like the idea of kobolds as dwarven pets/companions.
I'm thinking of modding them to be pets, and trainable for war or hunting. How would I go about doing this, and what do you think would be a good pet value? Also, is there any way to do it and NOT have them show up as slaughter-allowed livestock? I'm not interested in kobold leather cloaks (though dwarves DO have cat and dog leather, so maybe it's not that out of the question).
The problem with not separating them from the civ when making them wild is that a race that exists in a civ CANNOT have a wild population, for whatever reason. I tried making a civ of the animalman races for 31.25, but despite it's success, the wild populations disappeared from the sites and pops file exprt and I ended up scrapping it with preference to wild populations. I also ran into this problem when making my dragonkin mod and had to duplicate the dragonman entry to make a civilized version whilst keeping the feral groups. Something's still wrong with that civ though, unfortunately...
However; combining dwarves and kobolds into the same species as separate castes is entirely possible. :D
I just can't help but see the "war" episode of fraggle rock unfold in my mind, with the idea of brainwashed kobold zealots....... ("this young fraggles, is a weapon!")
"The givers of the berries demand the blood of the elves!"
(In cute falsette from a dimunutive fuzzball brandishing a copper dagger)
Guys, kobolds aren't dog things. This is what they look like in DF: (http://i.imgur.com/Jgdhq.png)
This is a picture from Kobold Quest, which is also made by Toady.
Guys, kobolds aren't dog things. This is what they look like in DF: (http://i.imgur.com/Jgdhq.png)
This is a picture from Kobold Quest, which is also made by Toady.
Guys, kobolds aren't dog things. This is what they look like in DF: (http://i.imgur.com/Jgdhq.png)I actaully think of kobolds looking like this aways :P
This is a picture from Kobold Quest, which is also made by Toady.
Guys, kobolds aren't dog things. This is what they look like in DF: (http://i.imgur.com/Jgdhq.png)I just realizede that picture is NSFW...
This is a picture from Kobold Quest, which is also made by Toady.
How?Guys, kobolds aren't dog things. This is what they look like in DF: (http://i.imgur.com/Jgdhq.png)I just realizede that picture is NSFW...
This is a picture from Kobold Quest, which is also made by Toady.
How?Guys, kobolds aren't dog things. This is what they look like in DF: (http://i.imgur.com/Jgdhq.png)I just realizede that picture is NSFW...
This is a picture from Kobold Quest, which is also made by Toady.
Looks like cloth to me.How?Guys, kobolds aren't dog things. This is what they look like in DF: (http://i.imgur.com/Jgdhq.png)I just realizede that picture is NSFW...
This is a picture from Kobold Quest, which is also made by Toady.
Look below. Notice the lack of underpants and what appears visible.
He's clearly wearing a borat style thong, while a significant bulge is visable it may merely be where kobolds keep their Large copper dagger :/
He's clearly wearing a borat style thong, while a significant bulge is visable it may merely be where kobolds keep their Large copper dagger :/
This
Good for you because I did not need to see that,Looks like cloth to me.Look below. Notice the lack of underpants and what appears visible.How?Spoiler (click to show/hide)
[ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER:PUNISH_EXILE]
[ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_ENEMY:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_PLANT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_AS_EXAMPLE:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_INFORMATION:NOT_APPLICABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:TREASON:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:OATH_BREAKING:NOT_APPLICABLE]
[ETHIC:LYING:NOT_APPLICABLE]
[ETHIC:VANDALISM:NOT_APPLICABLE]
[ETHIC:TRESPASSING:NOT_APPLICABLE]
[ETHIC:THEFT:NOT_APPLICABLE]
[ETHIC:ASSAULT:PERSONAL_MATTER]
[ETHIC:SLAVERY:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAME_RACE:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_ANIMAL:UNTHINKABLE]Turns out Kobolds are pretty hardcore. Assault is a personal matter, and torturing for fun is acceptable. Most of the other issues are just things which don't apply to them, like theft does not exist as a concept between kobolds, neither is lying something they can comprehend.
We all love Kobolds.Old thread is still relevant.
Necro For Great Justice!Code: [Select][ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER:PUNISH_EXILE]Turns out Kobolds are pretty hardcore. Assault is a personal matter, and torturing for fun is acceptable. Most of the other issues are just things which don't apply to them, like theft does not exist as a concept between kobolds, neither is lying something they can comprehend.
[ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_ENEMY:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_PLANT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_AS_EXAMPLE:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_INFORMATION:NOT_APPLICABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:TREASON:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:OATH_BREAKING:NOT_APPLICABLE]
[ETHIC:LYING:NOT_APPLICABLE]
[ETHIC:VANDALISM:NOT_APPLICABLE]
[ETHIC:TRESPASSING:NOT_APPLICABLE]
[ETHIC:THEFT:NOT_APPLICABLE]
[ETHIC:ASSAULT:PERSONAL_MATTER]
[ETHIC:SLAVERY:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAME_RACE:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_ANIMAL:UNTHINKABLE]
What is it, Kobold day or something? Kobold, Kobold, Kobold.
The whole forum is covered in topics such as “10 things I hate about Kobolds”, “The Good, The Bad and The Kobold”, “Clash of the Kobolds”, “Indiana Jones and the Kobold Kobold Kobold Kobold Kobold”.
I regret everything.
KODKOD WHAT DID YOU DO!
KODKOD WHAT DID YOU DO!
I don't know but I keep feeding her more information on how to spawn moar Kobolds and I am not sure it's such a good idea, yet I cannot help myself.
It isn't wise to anger sleeping giant(esses), little vermin. You might just get crushed... slowly, horribly, and with intense pain, as your eyeballs slowly erupt from their sockets, and your entrails re forcefully everted from both ends from the slowly building, unendurable pressure.
Just a little tip. :)
There really are kobold discussions and permeating the forums like a particularly bad miasma... Maybe we should just annoint April "Kobold Appreciation Month" and May "Kobold Genocide Month"
You would give the Kobold supporters April the 1st? A powerful day it is.