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[Graknorke]

Women in prisons are being forced into sterilization

So prisons are definitely not for correcting behaviour and instead are for... profit I guess. Got it.

[LordSlowpoke]

http://news.yahoo.com/video/outrage-over-forced-sterilization-female-150136080.html

Women in prisons are being forced into sterilization, given the racial bias in conviction and sentencing outcomes, this may constitute a literal genocide in America.

The comments on that page are just terrible...

it's yahoo news. why do you read the comments? it's like reading social justice tumblrs hoping to learn something

[Dutchling]

http://news.yahoo.com/video/outrage-over-forced-sterilization-female-150136080.html

Women in prisons are being forced into sterilization, given the racial bias in conviction and sentencing outcomes, this may constitute a literal genocide in America.

The comments on that page are just terrible...

it's yahoo news. why do you read the comments? it's like reading social justice tumblrs hoping to learn something

I read both when I'm bored. That, or I search for 'christian' or 'god' the talk pages of sciency Wikipedia pages >.>

[Kansa]

it's yahoo news. why do you read the comments? it's like reading social justice tumblrs hoping to learn something

It's a bad habit

[Levi]

http://news.yahoo.com/video/outrage-over-forced-sterilization-female-150136080.html

Women in prisons are being forced into sterilization, given the racial bias in conviction and sentencing outcomes, this may constitute a literal genocide in America.

Holy heck.  I can't believe that is actually happening in the US.

[Vector]

This sort of thing has been happening continuously for centuries, sadly =(  Here's a famous example from 1927, but there are lots more recent cases.  American eugenics programs were the blueprint for what the Nazis eventually carried out, and groups such as the Rockefeller foundation actually provided funding.

[Nadaka]

I am appalled that it STILL happens in America, but considering the widespread support such things get by the general public I shouldn't be surprised.

[SalmonGod]

http://news.yahoo.com/video/outrage-over-forced-sterilization-female-150136080.html

Women in prisons are being forced into sterilization, given the racial bias in conviction and sentencing outcomes, this may constitute a literal genocide in America.

Holy heck.  I can't believe that is actually happening in the US.

Pretty sure it's been going on for a while... it's been mentioned on these boards a couple times.

[scrdest]

Of all countries Sweden - you know, the very model of a socialdemocratic European state - had had a nationwide eugenics/forcible sterilization program until 1975.

But, since I like being contrarian, do you think there is any, literally any, situation, in which forcible sterilization is excusable?

[kaijyuu]

If they have a genetic mutation that makes all their kids into horrifying bloodfiends bent on world destruction and domination.

[Frumple]

A few, sure. Saving life of patient, etc. Probably some edge cases regarding insanity. Possibly in extreme resource crises. Potentially killing off particular genetic diseases, if they're bad enough (though "bad enough" would have to be pretty damn bad.) and we haven't figured out better options by the point it became something approaching necessary.

[Vector]

Usually it's considered excusable in the event that it is medically known to 100% probability with no sliver of doubt that a person will never, ever, ever be able to make decisions for themselves.

Like the babies born with only a brainstem.

(On the other hand disabled children are sometimes given hysterectomies so that the parents won't have to deal with menstruation--this is horrible and not medically indicated, since there are period-suppressing drugs and disabled people who can make choices deserve to make their own choices).

[Nadaka]

No. Procreation is a basic human right. Ethically I can't see any justification for its permanent infringement by forced sterilization.

[ChairmanPoo]

Probably not. There are situations in which it's a tempting option, but the implications are delicate enough to warrant thinking it twice and thrice.

[scrdest]

No. Procreation is a basic human right. Ethically I can't see any justification for its permanent infringement by forced sterilization.

OK - let's say we have an alcoholic woman who, despite being unable to support them, keeps giving births to children - whether due to ignorance or indifference - which are later forced to live on the streets, and that's if they survive. Justified or not, and why?